If 10-20 other FCS schools (plus nearly all the FBS schools) are doing the same thing BUT not reporting it, then is UND compliance / athletics exceptionally candid or exceptionally stupid (or both)? Can you confidently state other schools’ compliance departments are not reporting these type of “accidents”? Based on the numbers, it’s fair to say other schools’ compliance departments are in fact quite mute on this (contacting players not yet in the transfer portal).
I won’t overlook the role the coach had, though, to your point. If the transcripts don’t reach compliance then this is almost certainly a non-issue.
UND compliance has historically been exceptional in “rule following”, I’m told, but it is also probably not a coincidence that UND’s “wonderfully compliant” athletic department could be much better (in terms of $ and wins ) with new leadership.
First sentence - I agree. We desperately need to be pushing the envelope.
Second sentence - this is the unfortunate fallout of the UND institutional fail.
This is one way to look at it but I don’t agree with it in its entirety.
This issue is a matter of perspective, and how UND and UND athletics views football is still an ongoing issue.
it can improve with new leadership, which UND needs. Thank you Bill Chaves for your efforts, but nothing lasts forever; time to move on to the next step so UND athletics can take the next step COMPETITIVELY compared to other programs
Does it? When you incidentally speed, do you pull over and call 911 on yourself? Or just slow down and don’t do it again?
In this context, UND screwed up.
Debating about this on a forum is pointless, though, since this subject is basically the “unwritten rules” of competition …
Or don’t report it, don’t go any further with it, no one finds out, and no penalties or negative publicity at all.
That’s the right move based on probability.
Without probability, and only integrity, you end up with losing (see ‘UND Athletics’ the last several years). Once again, nice guys finish last.
Need to learn from this on several levels, including UND Athletics Department. We all know the NCAA isn’t going to learn anything from this joke example of enforcement…
No. Frost was fired the next week after Nebraska lost at home to Georgia Southern. Frost would’ve been fired one week earlier after the UND vs. Nebraska game (2022) if UND had hung on and won.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34571132/nebraska-cornhuskers-fire-coach-scott-frost-starting-season-1-2
Bill Chaves has built and condoned a subpar overall athletic department. We need new leadership at the athletic director role. Pure and simple.
“Doing the right thing” is actually the wrong thing, in this case, when you consider athletics is competitive and everyone else is doing it (in this case having contact with a student-athlete prior to them entering the transfer portal).
Dude, where’ve you been?! Ha!
Been feeling different since December 8, 2024….
https://fightinghawks.com/news/2024/12/8/football-eric-schmidt-named-head-coach-of-north-dakota-football-program.aspx