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    The All Important Polls

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    35 minutes ago, zonadub said:

    If the Griz are 7 - 4 they are in and playing at home. Do not discount the greed of the NCAA and the capacity of the 25,000 seat Wa Griz stadium. The same can probably be said for NDSU (in dozen years) and possibly SDSU.

    I just took a peak at SDSU's playoff history... Made the FCS playoffs 5 times so far. Played opening weekend all 5 times. Have only hosted 1 playoff game in Brookings, a 2009 game against E. Illinois that drew 4,367 in 33 degree temps. 

    This year obviously changes things with their shiny new, revamped stadium, and I'd guess they would put in a healthy bid.  But I wouldn't say they would be a lock to host if they end up outside of the top 8. 

    The All Important Polls

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    1 hour ago, Cratter said:

    The thing is it doesn't matter if UND is #9 or 24. No bearing on home vs road game.

    I fully realize that #9 - #24 depend on bids to host... My point was if we happen to finish #9 (instead of #8 w/ bye & guaranteed home game) then UND, as an athletic department, should have the means to put in a bid that ensures we host. Simple as that.  16 teams can submit bids for Round 1. Looking at Haley's bracket projection from yesterday, UND should have/does have the resources to put in a bid to beat most of those schools, other than Montana & maybe SDSU, Liberty draws very well too.  But, we should be well in the top half or likely higher in bids submitted.

    Like fightingsioux4life said, this football program should be rewarded for its great season with a home game & let it be know that UND is now a serious contender in the FCS football world.  Attendance has been up (not where it needs to be, but still up), fan interest is up, I imagine football donations are up, no reason why we can't put in a bid that is near the top of teams #9 - #24.

    That being said, I'm still holding out that Central Ark. will lose, UND moves up into a Top 8 seed, rendering everything I just typed moot. ;)

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    The All Important Polls

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    18 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

    This is very simple for me: I will be very pissed if we go on the road to SDSU or Montana ANYWHERE as the #9 seed. We need to host.

    Touché... Absolutely no reason for UND as a #9 seed to play anywhere other than the Alerus for 1st round.  We should have the means to put in a significant bid. 

     

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    Gameday: UND vs NAU 1pm

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    17 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

    Probably. My point wasn't to rip Stick, but to point out that without Wentz they don't blow UND out. UND will stop the run. Stick isn't any better than several QBs we've already faced. 

    Yep.  Last year UND held ndsu to 2.7 yds per carry. Other than 35 yd run by Frazier, the gains were pretty minimal. Wentz picked UND apart for 262 & 4 TDs. Our secondary is vastly improved this year as well.  not saying we'd win, but it would have the makings of a much closer game this year. 

    2016 Season

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    1 hour ago, shep said:

    I'm guessing Baldwin is gone soon. Oregon has gone bad in the post Chip Kelly era, playing well with his recruits the year he left and down after that.  Not sure if that's spot for him but it's interesting.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Chip Kelly end up back at Oregon. 

    Pretty tough for FCS coaches to move up to a P5 job. Can't think of any to make that move in the recent past. With all the success Bohl had (albeit with plenty of baggage) he didn't land a P5 job. Baldwin may move on, but it won't be for a P5 head job immediately. 

    Bracketology

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    14 minutes ago, jacksfan29 said:

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400871380

    The final score likely has more to do with mistakes (including a fumble in the end zone) by SDSU. When you look at the final stats SDSU ran the ball 52 times for over 400 yards and had 630 total yards to USD 353.

     

    Our coaching staff have been working on building up a running game to go with a top 5 FCS passing game. If we get to come to Grand Forks it should be fun. Indoors, turf...

    I'll now take my leave and let you continue with your pity party.

    Hmmm.... Sounds a lot like this game...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400869746

    Good thing your coaching staff is "building up a running game" after pounding out 71 yards against Cal Poly.

     

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    Bracketology

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    38 minutes ago, mj23 said:

    Big Skys current #1 team was getting blown out by the MVFC 7th place team until they choked in the 4th quarter.  It's not as easy as just a simple head to head.  SDSU was garbage to start the year and have been a much better team since then.  Cal Poly wouldn't beat them again if they played.  UNI was dismantling EW who is the #1-2 team in the big sky and UNI is 4th or 5th. That same 7th place SD team also beat your #3 team.  I would take the top teams in the MVFC over the top Big Sky teams all day.

     

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    Bracketology

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    11 minutes ago, bincitysioux said:

    All of Izzo, McFeely, Kolpack, and Peterson thinks UND will get a seed.  Kolpack critical of UND's schedule.  McFeeley thinks UND is one of 5-6 teams that could make it to Frisco.  Kolpack critical of UND's schedule.   Izzo thinks UND and Wichita are headed to MVFC.  Kolpack critical of UND's schedule.  McFeeley was gushing about UND's defense.  Kolpack critical of UND's schedule.

    Did Jeffrey mention that he doesn't like UND's gray pants as well??? ;)

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    Non-UND FCS Thread

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    50 minutes ago, Feff said:

    Remember when Montana fans were criticizing UND for it's soft schedule? Well Montana now has four conference losses, to Cal Poly, NAU, EWU, and now Northern Colorado. 3 of those teams UND beat.

    They'd have 5 conference losses if they would've played UND. 

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    2016 Attendance

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    13 hours ago, bincitysioux said:

    There are attendance numbers for football going back to 1999 in the Wiki.

    The all time attendance record was set in 2008, and none of USD, SDSU, NDSU, or UNI visited the Alerus.

    2001 was the second best season for attendance, obviously that was the national championship year.  We hosted NDSU and SDSU.  NDSU was a sell out, SDSU was the lowest attended regular season game of the year.

    2007 was the third best attended season in Alerus history.  None of USD, SDSU, NDSU, or UNI were in Grand Forks that year.

    Now most everyone who is here regularly knows I am a big proponent of the Big Sky so I admit I am bias that way.  My point is that history shows that it is no guarantee that the former NCC schools being regulars on the schedule would be a boon to attendance.  The final game with NDSU in 2003 did not even sell out, and that was another year where we landed in the national championship game. 

    To be blunt, I don't think the potential fans that are in Grand Forks that we are trying to attract are very knowledgeable about college football or probably college athletics in general.  For example in 2013, the game against Robert Morris outdrew the game against Montana who was ranked #7 at the time.  So no, I don't think "familiar" opponents are going to make a difference.  Might as well just table that idea and embrace the Big Sky! 

    I understand your points... attendance has been sporadic & definitely follows the trend of better attendance at beginning of the year & less at end of the season, no matter how successful the team has been. Looking at geaux_sioux's post, we all know the 4-letter word for the drop-off in attendance in the FCS era... M-U-S-S.  Nice to see Bubba's staff & a now successful UND program working it's way out of that hole.

    BUT... This years USD game (11,477) has been by far the highest-attended game of the season. AND the highest attended in the Alerus since a 2009 game with... you guessed it... USD.  I get that it was home opener, Potato Bowl & a 4pm start, but it outdrew conference matchups versus #16 Poly by 1.4k, Homecoming featuring a #18 UND versus a just-outside the top 25 Southern Utah by almost 1k & a battle of two unbeaten conference teams in a just-outside the top 25 Weber versus #12 UND by almost 2.8k.  Personally, I'm a 6yr season ticket-holder, intently follow the team every day, so I would be considered a "die-hard" fan like yourself & most posters on here.  Beginning of the year, the home game I most looked forward to was USD... I guess I just appreciate the history of the matchup. 

    Remember, SDSU was terrible most of their D2 years... I'm guessing their current perennial top-15 FCS program would be a pretty big draw coming into the Alerus, along with NDSU and a up & coming USD program. Btw, the SDSU game was the highest attended game in the 2013 season & the only time UND went over 10k since 2010 to this season. I also think some hard-nosed battles with a historically tough UNI team would fill some seats up too.  Home NDSU games would be a guaranteed sellout & have always been historically the best attended game of the year.  That's a no-brainer.  I haven't seen too many Big Sky teams move the needle for attendance (other than maybe Montana).  It is too bad we didn't get Montana or EWU at home this year just to see how attendance would be.

    Not trying to start a Big Sky versus MVFC debate at all.  Just stating my opinion, doesn't mean either one of us is right or wrong. 

    13 hours ago, bincitysioux said:

    Hmmm....

    I admit that I am the one that did that work in the wiki starting several years ago and just keep adding to it after each season.  Which are the discrepencies you found.  I'll take a look and fix them.

    As far as sell outs, 2001 against NDSU, and 2009 against USD are the only official sell outs that I came across.

    So, the only 2 official sellouts in the history of the Alerus are against "former" conference & regional rivals???? Hmmm... ;)

    2016 Attendance

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    24 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

    I think we have to understand the population of this area - there aren't enough football fans to go around between both UND and NDSU. 15 years ago, when UND was dominanting in D2, NDSU football was not a hot ticket, especially compared to today. That left a large number of football fans open to coming to UND football games. Now, the vast majority of people are on the NDSU bandwagon. It will take time for UND to build up its fan base, but it is also unprecedented in terms of NDSU having this type of success during the Alerus Center era. NDSU needs to become less popular for UND to build attendance. I mean, let's be honest, there's not 2000 to 3000 UND football fans in hiding someplace Grand Forks. Now, UND can create that number out of casual fans with continual winning.

    Also, it's worth noting UND still doesn't have any big name wins this season. I heard several people on Saturday asking "where is Weber State?" or "how good are they?"

    Name recognition of opponents is still lacking in the Big Sky. UND needs to beat teams like NDSU and Montana - which all have local recognition - in order to spike in popularity. This is one key reason why a move to the MVFC should be largely considered; it would benefit locals and ultimately attendance. What better way to boost attendance than to host NDSU???

    I'd think games with SDSU, USD and even UNI would also greatly boost attendance at the Alerus.  In the Big Sky we've only seen the Montana games boost attendance numbers. We haven't hosted EWU since '13 (Muss's last year & one of the lowest points of UND football) so not sure how we'd draw against them when both teams are having success.  I see 3 teams in the Big Sky (UM, MSU, EWU) that could possibly increase attendance & 4 from the MVFC (NDSU, USD, SDSU, UNI)... the rest from both conferences don't do much for the average fan.

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    North Dakota v. Weber St.

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    2 hours ago, Longtime fan said:

    My big want for Saturday is for the front seven needs to disrupt the opposing qb.  They only have six sacks in the their last six games compared to seven in the first two games.  Cieslak being doubtful hurts, wonder if greer will be back?  He's been out for a month now, would be great to have him back. 

    Watched the local news(wdaz) last night......apparently und football doesn't play this weekend.  They talked und hockey, women's hockey, MBB, WBB and NHL.  Wednesday night and no word about a big game in GF against two undefeated big sky teams that between the two teams have won a total of 11 games in a row.  Huge playoff implications for both teams.  This game needs to be hyped by the media every day.  Exposure peeks peoples interest 

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    2016 Attendance

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    12 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

    Are we really having ticket woes?  Yes we could certainly get more people to games but we averaging about 10k a game right?  I don't know and haven't looked, but I would guess we are in the top half of the Big Sky in attendance this year (although I could be wrong).   There can certainly be things that can be improved, and promotions and all ideas should be considered to improve the atmosphere and Game Day experience.   I just don't know if I like painting the picture that we have woeful attendance, but yes continue to try improve it so that we can increase it even further and make it an Event each home game Saturday. 

     

    5 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

    I think we're third in attendence. Best in almost a decade.

    Yeah, I saw a tweet (probably from Tom Miller or SFI... don't remember) but it did say UND was 3rd in attendance.  I assume behind Montana & Montana State.  UND has averaged 10,693 per game, while EWU has average 10,258 in their 3 home games, so they must be just behind UND.

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