TheFlop
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The word of mouth (which even from people I know....is what it is....subjective) is that Grant wasn't a violent guy and Patterson has worn a shirt that says "Talk sh*t get hit".
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About halfway through the article. Most of society has never been in any bar fights but for some reason this guy has a pattern.
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On 5/22/2018 at 1:53 PM, geaux_sioux said:
Our timing is, as usual, impeccable for FBS opponents.
If you care about timing, tell Bubba to only schedule the Ball States and Bowling Greens of the world. That sort of attitude sucks.
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1 hour ago, ND1 said:
Would likely only get a year or two in jail for a reckless or negligent homocide charge
Hopefully a rational jury is selected for the case. The heat of the moment argument goes out the window once he made the conscious decision to run around the building to the other exit to confront Grant.
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5 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:
You can’t exactly lock someone up for life for being a hot head.
How about a history of getting in fights and causing bodily harm to other people? Educate yourself a little on his background before making excuses for him.
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The guy that punched him has a history of being a hot head. That's our criminal justice system these days. Keep giving second chances until someone gets hurt really bad or dies.
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52 minutes ago, Cratter said:
"Hey bars (people that helped pay for the event) , would you mind moving the time of your concert til some of your best paying customers are out of town and less people will be there?"
"Maybe have it on a Tuesday at 3pm? Thanks."
Hey bars, you already are guaranteed a good crowd of students on reading and review day/springfest weekend.......maybe we could do something in the summer when your traffic is lower and you could use the spike in business during a traditionally slower time. Because by most accounts, getting a beer was mission impossible since you placed a band geared towards 30+ year olds.....in an area full of a bunch of college kids (whom for the most part aren't into that genre). BTW the best paying customers aren't college kids that will go wherever the Busch Light taps and fruity shots are the cheapest. Places like Brick and Barley, Rhombus, and Half Brothers would have made a killing selling their craft beers if their target market (same target market that digs 80's hair rock) could have gotten to them at a more open venue. Hugos was a sponsor too btw.
Not knocking the concert idea at all, just saying there is definitely room for improvement next time. Thanks.
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14 minutes ago, gfhockey said:
What better way to take people’s money then an old folks home
Yep. Most churches depend on getting just part of old people's money via offerings. Hope church is gonna get every penny of people's money once they get old with the built in old folks home. Heck, with a good midwife someone could live from cradle to grave without leaving the compound!
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1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:
hope church has already told rumors and kmart taht their leases won't be renewed....three or four years or less on both (kmart will probably bc a quasi retirement home/ nursing home)
Rumors wanted to expand into the newly vacant Jack's Shoes space but were denied so that's not surprising. A bar and retail fit in with a traditional mall scheme but not with a religious compound I suppose. Everytime Hope can kick out a business and re-label the space as "Hope Library" or "Hope Daycare" or "Hope Administrative Office" the space becomes tax exempt. A great racket if you can get it I suppose.
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3 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:
IDK... makes for good theater and conspiracy theories.... but, no, actually, it was simply to promote free discussion on topics at hand. People tend to clam up when everything is on the records, which makes this sort of exercise fruitless.
Also makes booting out people that may have dissenting views from you (i.e. not part of the GOBC.....not the GF hockey GOBC, but the other one) that much easier.
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6 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
Still doesn't explain why she's calling the Herald, unprompted, for a sit down interview. If she could not care less about UND, why take the time to start what she knew was going to be a giant mess and drag everyone through the mud? If she doesn't care what anyone thinks, the easy answer is to just ignore Kennedy and quit giving money. This was set off for a reason.
I suppose time will tell. I just think that something had to really get under her skin to trigger the response. If UND was gonna release info showing the REA deal was lopsided towards REA a couple percentage points, I just don't see why she would react the way she did. If it wasn't for her loyalty to her dad she would have stopped sending money to UND years ago.
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1 minute ago, Teeder11 said:
Thousands? Hmmm? It wasn't just athletics. Every unit, division and college was encouraged to take advantage of the service that was provided to athletics. Athletics was one unit that requested it, and it's the only one that is ever talked about, because, shocker, the Herald only wrote about them. The Herald ignored all the other UND units that asked for the same review process, because, well, I guess those other divisions aren't sexy news. They were all done the same way, by design.
Being able to skirt FOIA requests was just a convenient by-product...
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7 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:
Do you want the full list? The college deans have the assessment tools that are being used as well as the metrics.... you might want to do a FOIA request and get it right from them. In the meantime, if the shoe fits, they can wear it.
Good idea...........safe to say I should be hoping that Kennedy actually ordered there to be written documentation instead of the infamous consultant review of athletics that cost thousands of dollars but didn't result in any written documentation?
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6 minutes ago, HawksHoops said:
Sorry I'm confused. Who is Dayton?
Fixed it. Whoever he is his ears must be ringing what the heck he did wrong.
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6 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
Here's the outline of the relationship and most recent year's financials. Not sure why the Herald doesn't bother to post it.
Interesting and good post. I'm not an accountant good at crunching these numbers, but at initial glance it appears that neither REA or UND is is showing a huge profit or loss as a result of this deal. Most college sports don't actually make money. I think besides the budget numbers you cited, it's important to note the total benefit (in addition to money) that REA provides. How many people in Grand Forks, the surrounding community, and ND in general benefit from getting to enjoy the events hosted there including hockey, concerts, etc.
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Based on recent events, Engelstad has more credibility based on what is known so far. Could always change, but she spent an awful lot of effort to make sure her experience with Kennedy was heard. Could there be dirt on her too? Sure. But she lives halfway across the country and wouldn't care less about UND if it hadn't been for her dad. UND is like that distant cousin to her that she sends a monetary gift to every so often because her dad instructed her too. She doesn't care what UND or anyone associated with it thinks of her. My opinion is she got p*ssed off at Kennedy's pompous entitled attitude and she came up to straighten him out.
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1 hour ago, Teeder11 said:
Many of them really shouldn't be b!tching after so many years of zero accountability. I know, I know.... it's tough when someone comes in and actually demands proof of results.
Pretty general statement. Which professors weren't getting results that were asked to leave/nudged out? Who determined they weren't meeting expectations and what metric was used? Who's getting President Dayton his afternoon cup of coffee while his few supporters willing to blindly follow him burn up state time on a message board?
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33 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
Revenues for the bar are taxable and they still pay real estate taxes.
I get that. I've always thought it just seemed a little off when a non-profit is doing so well that it can buy buildings/businesses that are unrelated to the nature of the non-profit. I view it almost like if the United Way decided to buy out Super Valu. I know it's not illegal, but it makes me personally not want to donate when I know the funds are going for outside investments.
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Concert was a great idea but the space was insufficient for the turnout. IMO would have been better to wait a few weeks until students are gone (when downtown needs the draw) or else have in a bigger space somehow (maybe as one poster suggested at more of an intersection so crowds could expand three ways instead of being tightly funneled down 1 street.
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If REA is holding back "extra" money via a lopsided deal the reality is it is only saving UND from itself. UND doesnt have a very good recent track record of managing money responsibly that is meant to maintain buildings/programs/benefit students......none of which are anywhere near the size as the Ralph. No need for REA to give UND extra money that will only go to the layer of Executive Associate Vice President Kennedy butt-kissers instead of the front line instructors.
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22 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:
Why does this remind me about the plot of Fletch Lives?
Indoor Farnsworth amusement park?
Or a "non-profit" like NDAD buying a for profit bar.........Fletch Lives....great flick.
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19 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:
Hope Church owns the mall.
Apparently it's a great time to be in the "non-profit" business when a church can buy an entire mall and slowly turn it into compound one tax exempt space at a time as the leaseholders are forced out.
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25 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:
Life's tough, I know. But sometimes you have to buck up and be a big boy or big girl. In this era of "Me Too" ... it's becoming way too common for folks to run crying to the media when they feel they weren't treated nicely.
Kind of like when Kennedy publicly blamed low morale on the legislature a few months back while Kennedy was doing his best to get out of UND?
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8 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:
I'm assuming this is a swipe and UND, but I'm gonna skim over it and agree. YEAH! I definitely hope DU's players don't develop!
Along with your assumption that the Yon's, Hoff's, and Bowens will out of nowhere go from middle of the road college producers to studs next year, at least you are 1 of 2 on assumptions now. Except I was talking about Duluth. Why do you have Denver on your mind all of the time?
Former UND Student Jamie Grant
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Unfortunately there are many that share your view and think violent people should get chance after chance. Causing significant bodily harm during two completely separate incidents at bars on the same street within a block of each other was just a coincidence? Must be awfully unlucky guy to have that type of trouble randomly following him.