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Try to keep up.

Luckily it was the Grand Forks Taco Bell. Since they only push about 3-4 cars an hour through the drive thru contact tracing should go quickly.

Agreed....my point is that the only models/predictions that have been used are those that support the argument of closing down the economy. There has been literally next to no effort to look at the overall picture and take into account all positives and negatives which would benefit the US as opposed to the manufactured hysteria currently overtaking the country. Even the naysayers will acknowledge that Covid-19 deserves attention and a certain level of safeguards (mostly for elderly and people in high density areas). However the same can't be said for those that have gone all in on Covid-19. With that crowd it is stay inside for the next year, all business should stop, and the government should just keep printing and handing out $2000 a month to everyone indefinitely. There is no compromise with that segment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wwmt.com/amp/news/state-of-mind/state-of-mind-study-shows-michigan-suicides-could-increase-by-32-due-to-covid-19 A study projects suicides to increase 32 percent in Michigan.

Hey kids.....the good news is you didn't catch Corona which you had a very high probability of being asymptomatic with.......the bad news.....since people are under stay at home orders there is a significantly higher chance that you will get abused and not have it reported. I wonder if kids would choose door number 1 or door number 2 at this point?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/child-abuse-reports-drop-50-in-mass-during-coronavirus-pandemic/2114681/%3famp The "just one-lifers" argument is about to get even flimsier as reports like this start putting big picture perspective to how truly damaging the quarantine is/was.

You make a great point....and that's most likely how the next pandemic will go down assuming it's a non-election year.

You can't be serious? Using that logic then I can't send my kid out in the summer (West Nile).....he can't ever swim in fresh water again (blue algae)....he can never go to school from Nov-March (flu)....can never ride in a car (car accidents). Etc. Listen to yourself!

It's relevant because the chicken littles keep citing testing testing testing.....and percentages.....and mortality rates.....etc. So citing normal daily activities that come with higher risk than Covid-19 is an attempt to put things into perspective for people that have a hard time seeing the big picture.

Fear for children? Hasn't the data shown that the young have been largely unscathed?

I think the idea is great if you want to encourage discrimination and widen the gap that already exists between healthy people and those that are chronically sick.....but that seems to be the direction the people that are obsessed with testing for the sake of testing are headed with this. While we are at it lets shut down the economy again and not let anyone go out until every 300lb person gets tested for heart disease. Think of the lives that would be saved by doing that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8286345/UKs-work-blueprint-Hot-desking-banned-no-sharing-pens-canteens-closed.html The UK starting to formulate possible work restrictions for the summer. People over 70, pregnant women, and the severely obese could be required to work from home. Just being tossed around the UK for now but I'd suggest that the just one-lifers on this board start plowing in calories or else they might have to leave their house before football season if the US follows suit.

A handful on this board don't grasp the concept of magnitude. You can be cautious about a situation without curling into the fetal position and quitting life.

My question would be....and I'm guessing it wouldn't be easy to get a candid answer is as follows. Doctors aren't machines, they are human too. It is human nature to notice something more.....when it is an area of emphasis. Covid-19 by any account is under a microscope right now. Would this same level of attention to a flu season result in higher numbers of deaths being attributed to the flu?

So we have to take the advice from medical folks that masks should be worn as gospel but when it comes to the medical folks that say the elderly and those with certain underlying conditions are by far the most affected, we need to discard that advice. Got it.

C'mon....put a little more effort in than that. Not all chronic underlying conditions put someone at a higher risk.

Can you tell me the last flu season during which so much emphasis was placed on determining whether the person that died with pneumonia......may have also had the flu? Or that the 70 year old person with a history of heart disease.....dies of a heart attack......but it was classified as a flu death because someone he knew had the flu?

Unless you are elderly, or have pre-existing health conditions, it is.....and for those falling into that category Covid 19 is just one of many situations that they constantly need to be aware of and make their own decisions as to how to balance their personal safety with living life. My elderly parents attend church. During the peak of flu season they don't attend church for a period of time. They don't expect the world to grind to a halt to accommodate them. Not sure why so many have such a hard time grasping the concept.

Once again....one of the few businesses that stayed open and busy throughout the ongoing apocalypse......grocery stores. Old people....middle aged people....kids....etc all continued to visit and walk by each other closer than 6 feet....many not wearing masks and most of the people that were wearing masks not doing so correctly.......and yet in ND still only 3 people have died under the age of 69 over the last 3-4 months (whatever you consider the start date).

I'll play along, in your mind at what stat/threshold/measurement would you consider it ok for people to no longer wear masks? Keeping in mind UND 92,96's informative post showing that from ages 1-69 ND has had a total of 3 deaths.

Correct.......because when you get big media puting out story after story about how the world is coming to an end......more and more people start to buy in which puts pressure on even common sense governor's to hop on the quarantine wagon. The media's constant negative reporting is in effect going down the road of mind control of the feeble minded....which in the US is a considerable portion of the people that watch the mainstream news. Yes Fox news on the right.........but basically all the rest on the left.

Way off. The majority of the posts on here are people arguing that the quarantine is ridiculous and has been a complete overreaction save perhaps a few densely populated areas like New York where people are living closer together than people were meant to live. The media coverage has been biased and tried to lay this all at the feet of the president instead of taking a big picture view of what happened and assess blame to all parties involved. However, there are 3-4 posters on here that whine and cry Trump did this and Trump said that because they are lemmings and incapable of taking a big picture view. Media says orange man bad ...orange man must be bad. Even amongst Trump supporters.....you aren't going to find alot of people that like his constant tweets and his poor public speaking skills. It is fair to question whether Trump was a week late...a week early....whatever.....but open up your eyes and look at the 800lb elephant in the room that once ever 2-3 years SE Asia slings one of these respiratory diseases our way that is the equivalent of a bad flu.....and if the US doesn't have the political will to deal with the root issue....it will result in some extra deaths per year in the US

You mention federal and state governments.....but leave out the media.....and the extremely biased media coverage that lead to hysteria.....did far more damage than any government official did.

Didn't they all get released?

Lol......that's classic. Better than most comedy these days on Comedy Central.