TheFlop

Wild Hog was very poorly run. Too many owners, none of which had any restaurant experience, and because it was basically a hobby instead of their primary source of income they never seemed to put any effort into learning.

I suppose it is alot to ask of a certain segment to objectively look at the Covid situation when they are still butt hurt about an election that occurred 3.5 years ago.

I thought there were none today?

But if only there had been more tests......I'm sure that number would have been tenfold.......

Condolences go out to Rednek and a few others. This news isn't going to help the narrative.

Wrong. Having an underlying condition is not an automatic death sentence, it only increases your risk. And out of those 40% of Americans that have chronic conditions....how many of them are a condition that actually makes them more at risk as it pertains to Covid? All 40% isn't heart disease. As for obesity....the morbidly obese person never wore a mask to save themselves from eating too much food but now healthy people should wear masks to save them?

The situation as you laid out is clearer than most......husband at LM gets Covid.....wife at home gets close exposure....she comes to nursing home and passes it along. Easy enough, she should have stayed home if possible. What if instead of getting it from her husband....the lady went through the Taco Bell drive thru and found out a week later that two people were diagnosed with Covid. Should she still stay at home? I can guarantee you I've been in Walmart or Hugo's at the same time people with Covid have been there......do I need to stay home for 2 weeks after every visit? Should somethong happen to me if I pass it along not knowing that I had it? How about lesser ailments? If I pass a cold to a coworker that causes that person to miss two days of work can they file a lawsuit against me?

Try to keep up.

Luckily it was the Grand Forks Taco Bell. Since they only push about 3-4 cars an hour through the drive thru contact tracing should go quickly.

Agreed....my point is that the only models/predictions that have been used are those that support the argument of closing down the economy. There has been literally next to no effort to look at the overall picture and take into account all positives and negatives which would benefit the US as opposed to the manufactured hysteria currently overtaking the country. Even the naysayers will acknowledge that Covid-19 deserves attention and a certain level of safeguards (mostly for elderly and people in high density areas). However the same can't be said for those that have gone all in on Covid-19. With that crowd it is stay inside for the next year, all business should stop, and the government should just keep printing and handing out $2000 a month to everyone indefinitely. There is no compromise with that segment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wwmt.com/amp/news/state-of-mind/state-of-mind-study-shows-michigan-suicides-could-increase-by-32-due-to-covid-19 A study projects suicides to increase 32 percent in Michigan.

Hey kids.....the good news is you didn't catch Corona which you had a very high probability of being asymptomatic with.......the bad news.....since people are under stay at home orders there is a significantly higher chance that you will get abused and not have it reported. I wonder if kids would choose door number 1 or door number 2 at this point?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/child-abuse-reports-drop-50-in-mass-during-coronavirus-pandemic/2114681/%3famp The "just one-lifers" argument is about to get even flimsier as reports like this start putting big picture perspective to how truly damaging the quarantine is/was.

You make a great point....and that's most likely how the next pandemic will go down assuming it's a non-election year.

You can't be serious? Using that logic then I can't send my kid out in the summer (West Nile).....he can't ever swim in fresh water again (blue algae)....he can never go to school from Nov-March (flu)....can never ride in a car (car accidents). Etc. Listen to yourself!

It's relevant because the chicken littles keep citing testing testing testing.....and percentages.....and mortality rates.....etc. So citing normal daily activities that come with higher risk than Covid-19 is an attempt to put things into perspective for people that have a hard time seeing the big picture.

Fear for children? Hasn't the data shown that the young have been largely unscathed?

I think the idea is great if you want to encourage discrimination and widen the gap that already exists between healthy people and those that are chronically sick.....but that seems to be the direction the people that are obsessed with testing for the sake of testing are headed with this. While we are at it lets shut down the economy again and not let anyone go out until every 300lb person gets tested for heart disease. Think of the lives that would be saved by doing that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8286345/UKs-work-blueprint-Hot-desking-banned-no-sharing-pens-canteens-closed.html The UK starting to formulate possible work restrictions for the summer. People over 70, pregnant women, and the severely obese could be required to work from home. Just being tossed around the UK for now but I'd suggest that the just one-lifers on this board start plowing in calories or else they might have to leave their house before football season if the US follows suit.

A handful on this board don't grasp the concept of magnitude. You can be cautious about a situation without curling into the fetal position and quitting life.

My question would be....and I'm guessing it wouldn't be easy to get a candid answer is as follows. Doctors aren't machines, they are human too. It is human nature to notice something more.....when it is an area of emphasis. Covid-19 by any account is under a microscope right now. Would this same level of attention to a flu season result in higher numbers of deaths being attributed to the flu?

So we have to take the advice from medical folks that masks should be worn as gospel but when it comes to the medical folks that say the elderly and those with certain underlying conditions are by far the most affected, we need to discard that advice. Got it.

C'mon....put a little more effort in than that. Not all chronic underlying conditions put someone at a higher risk.

Can you tell me the last flu season during which so much emphasis was placed on determining whether the person that died with pneumonia......may have also had the flu? Or that the 70 year old person with a history of heart disease.....dies of a heart attack......but it was classified as a flu death because someone he knew had the flu?

Unless you are elderly, or have pre-existing health conditions, it is.....and for those falling into that category Covid 19 is just one of many situations that they constantly need to be aware of and make their own decisions as to how to balance their personal safety with living life. My elderly parents attend church. During the peak of flu season they don't attend church for a period of time. They don't expect the world to grind to a halt to accommodate them. Not sure why so many have such a hard time grasping the concept.