Bison06

None that I’ve spoken to and I know a lot of them.

SDSU fans aren’t even questioning the rankings, yet UND fans are. The AQ is decided by the conference, the rankings have nothing to do with that. Also, if you’ve read my posts, I’ve said literally word for word what you just posted. 2,3,4 could have been in any order. Yet they chose ndsu 2, sdsu 3, usd 4. Do you think they just flipped a coin? No, they looked at SoS and clearly discounted DII wins. Which part of what I’ve said do you disagree with?

It’s funny you keep having this discussion and yet we already know how the committee ranked these teams. The outcome is already decided and you want to re-litigate it, for what purpose? Clearly the committee, whose job it is to rank these teams discounted SDSU SoS. If anything, you arguing that SDSU had a better SoS than NDSU only further bolsters my point that the committee discounted SDSU for the DII game.

And beat 3 playoff teams. Not sure why this is even a discussion honestly. Augie could become DII national champs and in the eyes of the committee, NDSU beating Tennessee state is a better win than SDSU beating Augie.

I think you could put those three teams in any order and could’ve justified it. Being as objective as I can be, I still think NDSU has the best claim to the #2 seed given their entire body of work. USD’s only win against a playoff team was Saturday. NDSU was 3-1 against playoff teams. As far as I’m aware there is no consideration given for recency of win/loss. We could go round and round all day, but as I said, they could have put them in any order and made a good argument for that order. edit:USD also beat Drake, so they are 2-1 against playoff teams.

How would you have ranked them? USD #2, SDSU #3, NDSU #4? By your logic then, how do you put SDSU ahead of NDSU? And how do you put USD ahead of SDSU?

I appreciate the work your putting in here to make your point. When three teams have essentially the same resume and have all beaten each other, how would you propose they be separated by the committee? We’re definitely splitting hairs, but NDSU in my mind had a clear advantage in SoS and apparently the committee saw it the same way. It doesn’t matter how good the DII teams are, they are a lower level and are viewed as such when it comes time for playoff seeding. It’s really as simple as that.

MVFC agreements are apparently not part of the committee’s decision making process so to bring them up isn’t relevant. I also cant get on board with your opinions on DII wins. Competitive programs in DII is irrelevant, this is a known criterion for the FCS playoffs and teams scheduling DII teams knew they were risking lowering their playoff seeding potential if this scenario played out exactly like it has.

What bull$%!# is that? Seemed like a pretty good discussion filled with factual information.

You make good points. Did their agreement extend to seeding? I honestly don’t know.

Responded to a few different posts. Sorry ill address your post directly. As I’ve said, I think you could have put them in any order 2-4 and an argument could be made. Strength of schedule ndsu is the clear winner, so I have to imagine that was the conversation behind closed doors. I’m not arguing that it’s obvious that ndsu is head and shoulders above the other two. I’m saying that with the way the season played out, the margin between those three teams is minuscule and it appears SoS is what separated them. This makes the most sense to me.

I could be wrong, but where does recency of loss come into play in the criteria? the three teams were basically tied. The strength of schedule is what separated them.

D2 wins don’t count, so ndsu has one more DI win. This isn’t a conspiracy

Ndsu bad, I get it.

It’s a 3 way tie with the teams beating each other so how would you have separated them?