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My two best friends own and operate small businesses in MT and WA. Both laid off half their employees yesterday.

At least the coronavirus deaths in the last 24 hours is finally more than those children killed by abuse/neglect on a daily average so that "fact" will fit your narrative.

14 coronavirus deaths in the US in last 24 hours. 184 deaths from drug overdose in the last 24 hours in this country (average per day from last year's death total).

For those that don't like numbers......if Italy were to not have a single new case or death moving forward the US would need 18000 new cases with 30% death rate, THIRTY, of those cases to match Italy's numbers as of now.

You said this flu season. CDC estimates 22K to 59K deaths this flu season........ we'll go with the median of 41K deaths. Average length of flu season is 13-15 weeks.....we'll go with 15 weeks or 105 days. 41000 ÷ 105 = 390 deaths per day Now even if we take the time from this CDC estimate: October 1 thru March 14 that's still around 250 deaths per day.

That's roughly 400 deaths today.

...and there goes the economy in Pick City.

Stop.......just stop. Let's talk about Italy.

K.......let's do the math out loud. 44000 confirmed cases as of now. Let's say another 6000 are positive but their testing hasn't been processed or finalized. We have 50000 in this country that are "confirmed" infected....check those boxes. 50% roughly are infected but won't get confirmation because their symptoms were minimal or asymptomatic......50000 more. So we "know" there are at minimum 100000 infected..........and we have 550-600 deaths. Hey where did this go??? BTW I make house calls......

Not everyone one needs a test. Did you miss that memo?

Sorry......I was way off. And the average death age in Italy "from Corona" is mid 80s. ***News Flash*** If you are old and sick you're gonna die.

Some? Lots? How many are/were infected in this state that are/were asymptomatic or minimal symptoms that won't get a test, got better/getting better but are not in the checked box as "another case"? Do you remember the percentage?

As is......then as the President plans to reevaluate after the 15 days and go from there. Regardless of what you think.......when this shakes out in the end the death rate is what will matter. 99% of Italy's deaths were over 50 years of age WITH at least three pre-existing health conditions. (Dr. Deborah Birx)

I'll put you down in the box "no.....I can not comprehend that concept"

Simple concept for some to comprehend. Are you in the "some" bucket?

Yes Dr. Martin Makary you're right.

Anything on straws or dolphins???

South Korea......how are they doing? Good.... right? They're the model we want to follow......right? Their death rate....1.2%. Italy death rate.....just south of 10%. Here in the US our death rate......1.3%. We aren't Italy. We are trying to follow South Korea.

Dow will be below 18000 tomorrow if the Senate doesn't nut up. A president from the Federal Reserve stated GDP could drop 50% and unemployment could go to 30%.

Did you confirm that with LeBron?

16400 deaths worldwide due to coronavirus to date.....fact. 67000+ deaths in the country due to drug overdose last year.......fact. 88000+ deaths in the country due to alcohol related issues last year......fact. Do you need the seasonal flu numbers again too?

Schumer needs to just go back to NY and shake a few hands for a few days.

Good to see the Senate is going to be part of this crisis solution.

At least you stopped referring to it as the "Kung Flu".

I'll defer to your inpatient and ICU/CCU experience. I know nothing about these two meds in combination. All meds as you know have side effects more so in patients with certain conditions. What I do know is Plaquenil has been one med that has been the standard of care in treating rheumatology patient specifically for RA and SLE. The reason it is still widely used over 70+ years......it's effective and it has minimal side effects. 200 mg BID daily can and is tolerated for years. Main issues I've seen to discontinue the med is GI issues or a rash outbreak. To contradict Dr. Drew Pinsky last night on TV it doesn't not cause corneal deposits. Slight risk taken long term greater than 12 month of retinal toxicity or called maculopathy. Z-Pak is what it is. It works. It is one of the top Rx'd antibiotics in this country. Now if that combo is the only arrow you have in your quiver or just Plaquenil alone...........you let it fly.