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Is that to then also assume Martens is in and Forney is out again??

Not suprising. He, along with Miller, have been big dissappointments so far. Both have good talent, but can't bring it during the game. Davidson, at worst, is a lateral move.

He left the game in the 2nd with an injury to his right (throwing) elbow. The announcers summized it was kind of like "pitcher's elbow" and was carry over from a couple weeks ago from when he absolutely torched and shredded the Vikes!!!

Trust me, I know what was "passed" since I deal with this crap all day long as takes time way from my patient care, but it was "Hillarycare" and her initiaves in 1993 that got this ball rolling down hill. And I'm not looking for a political debate on healthcare .

Due to Hillary's great healthcare regs, i.e. HIPPA, not much can be revealed about a player's status. It was mentioned though by the media that "there is no structural damage" to Genoway's lower leg following an MRI prompting me to believe it is some type of bad sprain to the knee (or ankle), especially if the reports are true that he still is having difficulty bearing weight on that leg. Having seen this team play at the Ralph every game this year, he is unfortunatley one of 4 or 5 players UND can ill afford to go down with an injury for an extended period of time.

Kind of like that arcade game at Chucky Cheese where you bang the Gopher on the head as he pops out of his hole with a big mallet??

Believe I read that UND is 10-3-1 in their last 14 games vs. DU in Denver. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Each season is different, but that gives hope that they can and have played well there recently.

Better to have this kid walk on then have a walk out like AG on the team. Very cool story.

2 sweeps!? And both at home!?

Just 2 subpar games and a 6-4-1 record so far indicate one of two things. 1) This team was somewhat overrated to start the year and/or 2) The teams we have played so far are not too bad in relative terms. Agree these next 4 games are HUGE for it only being Nov./Dec. At least a split at DU leads to a sweep of the Gophs and away we go...

This series, in my poinion, will affect the next 2 home series. If UND gets at least a split, and I think it will be tough, I think we rebound and take at least 3 of 4 from UM and UNH. If we get swept, I think home splits the next 2 series and we are a .500 club at the end of Dec. Fri. DU 4-2 Sat. UND 4-3 I just got a hunch we get at least 1 win this weekend and then we come home and SWEEP the Gophs!!

First part--yes. Second part--still not sure .

That's a tough call because when we were up 103-0 at half vs. Humbolt, I really never had a sense we had control of the game.

Depends on how one uses it?!

You got it! Jeanotte and Co. lead the charge from UND's side and His Horse Is Thunder is as clueless as many of our "white" politicians! This is purely political, make no mistake about it. It is not an issue of what is best and what is desired by the NA population as a whole.

Why is that? Are one of those that has a face for radio or these message boards?? Don't sell yourself short!

Read lots of your posts. Kudos to you for being a "glass half full" guy. When you see them play live, like this weekend, it is quite disturbing. No jump, no urgency, no intensity. You put TJ, Dunc, Chorney on the ice to start the game on Sat, with all the other talent on this team, vs. UMD and lay an egg is disturbing...not postal worker disturbing, but disturbing none the less

Bags full of guilt or disappointment??

Didn't play real well on Friday, but the dam broke on UMD in the 3rd. JPL wasn't real sharp on Fri. either. So UND wins a game handily when they weren't sharp in any phase--the PP looks pathetic. So then they come out Sat. with no real jump and play less than stellar again. They did have their moments Sat. and got a jump after tying it at 2. They looked stronger 4 on 4, but a bounce killed them when it shouldn't have come down to that. UMD, is at best when it is all said and done, a 5 or 6 team in the WCHA. This was a series sweep UND should of had. Now again we are talking about the second half surge. To me anything less than 4 wins in the next 6 games will not set up well for the second half or Pairwise. A split this weekend at worse and then get 3 out of 4 at home vs. UM and UNH.

IT WAS IN A SLING!! From Danny's quotes in the paper that he could not reach up for a high snap out of the shot gun, my guess is that it is a sprain or partial dislocation of his non-throwing shoulder. And because it was his non-throwing shoulder, he and the coaches decided to let him give it try after halftime.

While you seem charming, you still are missing the point. THE GAME WAS STILL IN DOUBT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND HALF. It was 20-2 still, hence Chappell still being in the game. Since you want to compare apples to oranges, remember the UNO game in 2005? Using your logic we should have sat the starters in the 4th quarter. Could you imagine the backlash had we done that and had the same result? By the way, I followed in up with a 84. 1)...and very handsome. 2)This is where we disagree. If you were at the WSU game as I was, we obviously saw it differently. 3)Apple to oranges--yes. UNO is not WSU. But the scenerio, in its TOTALITY, that unfolded during the WSU should have dictated you try another option than Chappell in the second half and this is where we will disagree. 4)And that 84 was still 8 shot lower than your handicap

I'm with you here. But after reading this rant, I would think you would have sided with me on the Chappell injury issue on the FB thread??

So now it's mop up duty? Can some one please tell me when mop up duty starts?? Having been at the WSU game, I think that should have been at the beginning of the second half. There seems to be obviously to camps in this disagreement. So be it. The bottom line is and was an unhealthy Chappell meant we had a slim chance to win vs. GVSU. But with Battle's performance, you think giving him the ball vs. GVSU was an option?? Whatever everyone's thoughts might be about the WSU game are, we went to GVSU vastly undermanned. If some feel ok with that after watching Chappell limp to the locker room at half vs. WSU and then watch him on crutches on the way to the locker room after that game, then we did what we needed to do to give ourselves a shot vs. GVSU. Bully for you on your -4 at KW. We like to say at Oxbow, "The sun shines on some poor dog's a** at some point!"--because more than likely you followed that up with a 93!!

Fine, so Lennon has a "logical" explanation, but then where was any preparedness as to how UND was going to run the ball against GVSU?? Chappell, Brady and Murray are all dinged up coming into the GVSU game. None of those 3 can go and we don't see Battle, who they felt comfortable giving the ball to 18 times vs WSU?? There seemed no game plan for what if...as far as a running game yesterday?? So if all of you want to question those who think playing Chappell was a bad idea in the 2nd half of the WSU game, where is your "logical" explanation as to why we looked like Winona trying to run the ball yesterday?? And I don't want to hear GVSU had a big lead and we had had to throw because we were only down 14 at half and the game wasn't under control by GVSU (as that logic was presented by some with UND up 20-2 at half vs. WSU). In playoff FB, especially outdoors this time of year, if you can't run or stop the run, your season is over and that's what happened.

I agree. The GVSU game was lost in the early 3rd quarter of the Winona game. Chappel LIMPS off at half vs. WSU (again already knowing Murray was hurt!) and that really gets dinged early in the 3rd quarter when he should have never have been out there and if Battle was the answer in the 2nd half vs. WSU, where was he yesterday??