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23 hours ago, Sioux94 said:
May not have been, but was ruled as one and thankfully didn't get over turned. He is definitely taking advantage and making plays when given the opportunity
It looks like Toivonen was waived today. Saw some Giants reporter say he may be PS candidate.
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On 8/17/2022 at 9:17 AM, jdub27 said:
Knocking a guy for getting hurt while defending Wentz is some next level irony.
I wasn’t knocking him for getting hurt. Just pointing out the irony that the poster seems to think no NDSU player is good to garner an NFL roster spot while there are 16 currently on one and there is exactly 1 F’N Hawk on a roster.
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16 hours ago, Rory said:
From all accounts he did well as did Wentz and Stick. This guy should critique the UND quarterbacks in the NFL
He got tired of looking at tapes of Cowboys practice to see if he could find Mr. Waletko on the sidelines and the CFL must not have been playing last weekend…
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15 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
Misters Wentz and Lance have a common problem:
They sure do, they have to decide what to do with hundreds of millions of dollars…
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On 8/12/2022 at 4:38 PM, 1972 said:
im not sure that there was as much love for the wentz hype, as you may think...outside of fargo, most people didnt really care...the way that KVLY had to put EVERY eagles game on, even when there were far more interesting games being played at that same time, was really annoying. Even Bismark(his home town) didnt choose to show all of the eagles games. if i would venture to guess, that in KVLY viewing region, only about 30% of the people actually cared about the journey of carson in Philly
KVLY, actually KXJB, but who is counting, rarely had a chance to show Eagles games. Most were in KVRR and they did show all they could when it didn’t interfere with Vikings games. You will get real annoyed when most 3:00 games this year in the FM area will be 49ers games…
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On 8/6/2022 at 12:23 AM, gfNDfan said:
$2 million a year from FORUM Communications??? BUWAHHAHAHAHAHHHA!!!
Don't do drugs man - they are bad for you Entz/Tailpipe smokers!
Not all from Forum Communications. They actually get some money from the radio contract too.
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On 8/9/2022 at 12:59 AM, nodak651 said:
Wow what's with the MVFC deal with ESPN? I just realized that every ESPN MVFC "game of the week" is exclusively on ESPN's streaming platform, as in home teams cant broadcast their home game on TV if it's the game of the week. UND vs UNI is the game of the week and will not be on TV anywhere. Is that correct? Would love to see a copy of that contract...
Viverito has said in the past schools like NDSU with lucrative media contracts are exempt from having to allow a MVFC game of the week at home. NDSU's media contract will not allow a game in the Fargodome to be the MVFC game of the week.
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13 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
Welcome to Saturday Morning Philosophy, with coffee. I'm your host: The Sicatoka.
Today's topic is: Bet on yourself or take the money? Media deals in the 2020s.
UND went for infrastructure investments and "goodwill" (programming and air time) in lieu of a big media check. Then UND took advertising in house. Both of those moves say UND needs the tooling, not the cash flow, to keep "betting on self" and they found a way to get it. UND also has skin in the game -- UND needs to keep the value high, and raise it, to keep advertising returns high.
NDSU took the check, the cash flow. If the value of what NDSU sold drops over the length of the deal, NDSU is out nothing. That's not betting on self.
So who made the smartest move? And yes, that is smartest, not smarter. It's not two entities in play here but four. So let's explore.
Midco: They lay out some capital and make some improvements to UND facilities. They guarantee some air time. But they're getting programming for their cable channels and subscription service. If UND is awesome they come out great, viewers; if UND teams slide, well, they still have programming.
WDAY/ForumComm: They're writing big checks betting that NDSU stays a valuable quantity. Should NDSU get bigger, great bet for 'DAY. Should NDSU stumble, not so great of a bet.
NDSU: They are locked in. Win or lose they cash the check. If they stumble, genius!, because the same check comes. If they explode and go even bigger, they shorted themselves.
UND: They are getting exposure and a tangible improvements to facilities. And they are getting the exposure to announce what they are doing. If UND stumbles, they still have the stuff and the exposure. If they explode and go bigger, they have the returns of better ad revenue.
Thinking about these from least to greatest risk, I'd say NDSU made the lowest risk move. They can "Amber Heard" the bed and still get the same check.
That said, I'd say UND made a bold, risky, move. In lieu of cash today they are betting on future success. Midco is right there with them. Each have made moves that look forward and depend on improvements.
Forum Comm is in the riskiest position. Should the value of the entity they've pre-paid for drop, for whatever reason, they're still on the hook. That said, if NDSU goes big, ForumComm reaps all the media reward, and NDSU shorted itself.
I hope you've enjoyed the rambling stream of thoughts and finished your coffee.
I'm The SIcatoka and this has been Saturday Morning Philosophy, with coffee.
I believe the Ingstads, who own FM Radio Media, when they started Bison1660 agreed to share advertising revenue from just that portion of their holdings with NDSU athletics. So the more revenue FM Radio Media gets the more NDSU gets. That could have changed with Learfield taking over but I don’t believe it did. One of the advantages to having a big NDSU supporter that owns a large Media company.
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56 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
“it’s not unusual for something like that to happen in practice”
obviously coaches don’t want players to go so far as to risk getting injured with this sort of aggression, but I’d be willing to bet the offensive line coach applauds this type of play.
Offense and defensive lines got into fights multiple times a week when in our fall camps back in the day. Just the way it is on every team.
To some extent they applaud it. When you get to the extent you have to kick someone out of practice it probably crosses the line.
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2 hours ago, Bison06 said:
I’ve seen his highlights in one on ones, he’s definitely an aggressive guy.
But offensive and defensive lineman have been getting in fights since the beginning of time. Your enemy is whoever is lined up against you in the nfl. There’s no love lost between offense and defense many times.
But it sounds like he had the same issue at the Senior Bowl, and not just once, many times.
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6 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:
i guess when you go to a school that prioritizes quality losses you might get confused as to who the enemy is ....and it shouldn't be your teammates......THREE DAYS IN A ROW
You have seen the UNI head coach right? Not at all surprised. Farley is a d*•k…
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12 hours ago, UNDColorado said:
You know it's good since no bizun trolls have come over here to try and minimize it.
Not a horrible deal for UND. But I do believe NDSU gets about $2 milllion per year rather than $2 million for 4 years.
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15 minutes ago, gfhockey said:
Who gets advertising money?
Midco
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3 hours ago, Kab said:
Any $ income announced for UND
Miller said $2 million over 4 years.
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6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
"Most" could mean all but the game in Fargo because of their media rights and coverage overlap (WDAY vs Midco).
WDAY and MIDCO have an agreement that both schools can broadcast if they want to. MIDCO and WDAY both broadcasted the game in Brookings and the USD game in Fargo last year,
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14 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:
The NDSU board sure is getting jealous of our recruits. I don’t know why because many of them have been on visits/camps at Ag U and they chose not to offer these guys. Must be good enough to be on the radar of the top team in the FCS…… seriously have no idea why we live in their heads if we don’t count as a rival anymore…….
Any of these guys so far have a shot at playing this fall?
You may have been on the UMD site…
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6 hours ago, jdub27 said:
Washington has a 5* QB who's was a top 15 player in national rankings that is the same age as Payton. I don't think it was competition he was afraid of. But go with that theory I guess?
I wasn't saying he was afraid of any competition. He obviously liked U of Wash more than NDSU. I have no problem with that. I was just saying NDSU aren't crying in their beer because he chose U of W. The cupboard isn't bare in the QB room at NDSU.
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1 hour ago, UND1983 said:
of course you have a better QB than him already, of course.
Don’t know if he is better but he is a hell of an athlete and good QB. They won’t be benching a kid that keeps winning it is hard for someone to start 4 years no matter how good you are.
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2 hours ago, Hawkster said:
Actually I'm glad the Bison were his number 2 choice. They came oh so close only to get their hearts ripped out
Would have been nice to land him but I think he would have sat behind the Payton kid from Omaha for a few years anyway.
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7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
To be fair I don’t know !@#$ about OL play but I see him burying guys in his highlights and playing like 6 different positions. Moves pretty well and is an absolute menace.
I know nothing about the kid, but a SD kid that neither SD school offered? I wonder what the issue was? The injury last year?
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1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said:
Unfair
Why did he have no other options? And it isn’t that Bubba this keen sense of finding diamonds in the rough.
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5 hours ago, Kab said:
When coaches recruit players they must talk with the players high school coaches. If so where was Feeney on this ?
they must be able to get grades and talk about character with the coach?
I am fairly sure Feeney was pretty honest with all college coaches. Bubba and his staff were just more interested in getting the talent and less interested in hearing about the problems.
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43 minutes ago, CMSioux said:
So will you be heading over to Missouri State fan site with your knowledge?
Missouri State should have known better too, even more so than Bubba. But if your argument is “look, even Bobby Petrino did it so Bubba ain’t so bad”, that says a lot.
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27 minutes ago, Irish said:
Not blaming him for the Weah mess - he took a chance on the wrong kid and got burned but who could predict that.
Only every other D1 coach and most D2 coaches in the area… There was a reason the top prospect in the ND and NW MN area had no other offers. It wasn’t because they didn’t think he could play.
Carson Wentz taking Philly err Indy err DC by storm
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Not sure if you can call it professional football when the average player is making less than you or me.