nodakvindy
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Hehe, cratter, you really think people in the area looking for the latest breaking news on North Dakota State Symbols or whatever are typing in 'North Dakota State' into a the Google news search?
You said: "UND wins throughout the region except for the Fargo area, of which it is (not so surprisingly) close." You based that conclusion the assumption that people searching for news on NDSU would type 'North Dakota State University' rather than 'North Dakota State' into Google's search engine - even though most stories on NDSU athletics do not contain the phrase 'North Dakota State University' any more than stories on Ohio State contain the phrase 'Ohio State University.' I suppose it is possible that all those people in Bismarck and Minot were actually searching for breaking news about North Dakota State College of Science, North Dakota State Parks, North Dakota State Symbols, North Dakota State Library, etc, but that doesn't change the fact that NDSU not only was searched for seven times more than 'University of North Dakota' in Fargo but also that it has surprising penetration in India and mainland China.
Based on that, it'll be interesting to see if 'NDSU' surpasses 'University of North Dakota' as a search term down the road - because it kind of looks that way. A lucky deal for North Dakota State University that 'NDSU' is so unique - helps with branding, I'd think.
That said, folks interested in UND hockey, for instance, are probably not searching for a single phrase - they are probably typing in two separate search phrases: Sioux and hockey or something like that.
The problem is that you aren't comparing apples to apples. You'd need to compare a search for NDSU to one for UND, which is skewed by the fact the UND is a German word. Likewise the problems Bison and Sioux. The only full comparison is University of North Dakota and North Dakota State Univerisity. I stated this in the original post, which apparently no one read fully. I included Fighting Sioux because I believe that to be a distinct enough combination that it clearly refers to UND and was interested how that would compare.
I originally posted becuase I was quite surprised that there was such a pronounced advantage in favor of UND.
And google stats matter because they are a tangible sign of buzz and interest. Sure, this isn't a scientific sample, but if I'm a University I'd be pretty excited to know that there are nearly twice as many people searching for information on my school than my closest rival.
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I understand UNO is a big school student wise, but it is comparable to IUPUI, UM-KC, Oakland and others that are derided as "commuter" schools. That's why I mentioned them that way. And while the second largest school in the state, the dropoff from Lincoln in even more pronounced than the Minnesota schools.
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Oh, I agree with that. No doubt the Big Sky would be better, but it isn't realistic for now. On the otherhand, being in the MidCon with no Valpo may mean that the Dakota schools will have a decent shot each year at going to the NCAA......and I do like that.
Nope, the current NCC isn't much better. USD is a flagship, but certainly smaller than UND. UNO is still essentially a commuter school, Augie is sort of the Vanderbilt or Northwestern of the the NCC, and the three Minnesota schools are all clearly second fiddles to UMTC and unfortunately are funded that way. I'd rather look at the big picture peers of the whole of DI and the whole of DII and then it's pretty obvious.
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Saw this discussed on USCHO. Google has a new utility that will let you provide a search topic and then generate the locations that most search for it. I tried University of North Dakota, North Dakota State University and Fighting Sioux. Other variants were too skewed - Bison had all searches for the animal, UND had any German searches for that word.
Fighting Sioux not surprisingly peaks in late March and April. It nearly tops North Dakota State University for a brief period. A solo search for the term NDSU shows a similar peak following the win over the Badgers.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=North+Dakot...eo=all&date=all
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I'd be shocked if there are people who want to be diamond members, but aren't due to ticket availability. I don't think this will mint any new diamond members, simply further bleed cash from those that already are.
One really has to wonder about the deal with REA if we can be bringing in probably 10x the revenue for hockey tickets that we were at the old arena and still be in the red. Concessions and pro shop sales also have to be up considerably. Where is the money going? There's no way that women's hockey drains that much.
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How many neutral sports fans are there in North Dakota? Other than new people moving into the state, and there aren't large numbers of those, I believe that most people in North Dakota have made a choice between UND and NDSU. Even supporters of smaller schools in North Dakota usually like one of the bigger schools more than the other. I do agree that some casual sports fans that only go to 1 or 2 games a year may choose to go to Fargo if NDSU is playing a "name" opponent.
While the loyalties of alums are more set in stone, I think there is a good possiblity that those with only a passing interest in either school can easily be influenced, especially if hometown stars tend to go to NDSU for that chance to compete in Division I.
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Some bad news for our neighbors up north. This could have also bolstered located an American facility in Grand Forks.
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Hehehe, I'm kind of a trouble-maker, but I really do think that the Grand Forks Herald failed as journalists with their coverage of NDSU's and UND's decision-making process. Lack of staff is no excuse. If they have the manpower for extensive coverage of Springfest, there is no excuse for complete silence of the DI issue, especially seeing has how they could not stop yapping about NDSU's move ("Folly! Hubris! Heck, it's worse than either, it's Fyoobris!").
Where are the staltwart defenders of the public good who put pen to paper to expound on these mighty themes?
"For the record: Costs outweigh D-I benefits"
"Bisons' D-I move doesn't make sense"
"EDITORIAL: Division I Say no!"
"EDITORIAL: [DI is a] 'Sucker's game'
OTOH, if UND does have a conference lined up and does go DI, that is great news for NDSU and SDSU so good luck with that!
I don't know how they've failed since their is no news yet. The report hasn't been issued. Kupchella hasn't made a decision. There was no consultant's report to ignore. The Herald can't just fabricate stuff. They could talk to coaches and staff, but they would merely be speculation, not news reporting.
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Steve and Barry's is a cool store. I sent them an email a while back suggesting Grand Forks as a good location for them. They would be a nice fill in for the old Target slot at the mall (at least some of that space).
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I'm against needless legislation that attempts to solve problems that don't exist or that are already subject to existing law. We are already loaded down with countless laws enacted in response to events that occurred because existing laws weren't enforced or legislators are simply pandering to their constituents.
I think this legislation has virtually no chance of passing and even if it does, will only result in a lawsuit by the NCAA that they will likely win. Therefore it is pointless to waste time on it. The conflict is between the NCAA and UND (and some other schools) and the courts are the venue to resolve this conflict. The arbitrary nature of rulings on this policy along with the failure to bring it to a vote of the entire membership make this appear to be a winnable case.
Look, I think this is a foolish, misguided policyof the NCAA's. But passage of a law like this could have all sorts of unintended consequences on associations of all types, not just the NCAA.
As for your "We the people" comment regarding the NCAA that may be true, but it matters little. They are elected by their own membership. Myles Brand didn't just proclaim himself head of the NCAA, he was voted on by college presidents. And colleges are the very breeding ground of most social engineering, so it shouldn't come as a shock that they would try to use their most prominent association to push that agenda.
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Be careful, restrictions specific to Wal-Mart is already being done in Maryland. The legislature passed a bill that stipulates that a company over a certain size must spend a certain percentage of its revenue to provide health care benefits. The only company in Maryland that fits this description is Wal-Mart and the law doesn't apply to the local government. The legislature does have the right to regulate interstate trade and the NCAA by any measure is engaged in interstate trade. In reality, depending on the court, the laws change based on their interpretation and to ensure that the view of the courts holds a consistent view, it needs to be legislated. Of course, a court could always declare a law unconstitutional and still applies its views - wouldn't be the first or last time.
The key difference (other than being a state action rather than a federal one) in the Maryland case is the law was crafted as you stated, to regulate companies that meet certain criteria, which currently only Wal-Mart does. If another company later met the criteria, the law would apply to them. Again, since I can't read the bill online, I can only go by Rep. Johnson's press release, which has language specifically mentioning the NCAA. The bill would not apply to the NAIA, NJCAA or other smaller bodies that also regulate college athletics. I think that would almost certainly bring about a legal challenge by the NCAA.
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Reviewing Article I, Section 8, "commerce among the several States" is something that Congress has Constitutional power over. If "commerce among the several States" doesn't define what the NCAA is doing what does? Yes, this is in the realm of the enumerated powers of Congress.
Step up and do something is what I'd say.
I guess I'd rather him take a stand than appear to duck.
This is a stretch. The NCAA is a private organization and has the ability to choose where it will conduct it's business (read: championships). What then prevents a bill to keep Wal-Mart to build in communities of certain size? That is a highly contentious issue that would likely receive far more suppot than this issue.
Unfortunately, Thomas does not yet have the text of this bill yet, but Rep. Johnson's press release indicates it is solely aimed at the NCAA and is not a broader regulation of interstate commerce. I will continue to maintain that letting this follow the proper course in the courts is better that a quixotic attempt to "step up and do something".
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Wow! I can't imagine this is a swing vote issue for someone. We're in a war, gas is $3 a gallon and a wishy-washy statement on a bill that hasn't even gone through committee yet is deciding your vote. You obviously don't get how DC works. The only way North Dakota has any say is by keeping members in for a long time. We have that right now.
As for having to cater to the tribal base, all three members work to get federal contracts for companies like Uniband. That and helping with legimate tribal issues like health care weigh far more than this issue. Even if Pomeroy supported this, do you really believe the tribes would vote Republican?
Perhaps Earl really believes this isn't a place for federal interference. I think most North Dakotans would agree they don't like the feds jumping in on petty issues. The courts are the proper venue for this issue and that is I believe it will ultimately be settled.
* I doubt the economic issue will gain much traction, as the NCAA has had a hosting ban against locations in Mississippi and South Carolina because of their state flags.
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The best bet is to call one of his offices. Earl has several staffers who are UND alums, including his press secretary.
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Just read in USA Today this morning that Illinois's tennis team is the first to lose hosting privileges due to the NCAA "hostile and abusive" policy. The team was the #7 seed in the 64 team tournament, and all of the remaining top 16 seeds are hosting.
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Yes, I would think you are reading it wrong, Goon. I think if you read every single post I have ever made, you will not find a single instance of me being anti-NCAA. I'm simply trying to bring a different perspective to certain arguments, since, because of geography, I spent the first 17 years of my life following Canadian junior hockey, and the last 10 years of my life following NCAA hockey. Therefore, I like to think I can bring a little different perspective to some of these discussions.
Also, I've never once said junior hockey is better than NCAA hockey or vice versa. They both have their pros and they both have their cons, and the truth of the matter is, I tremendously enjoy both of them, sometimes for very different reasons.
But every now and then I read on here a post that contains some sort of phallacy, or maybe some sort of opinion about things North of the border that I see as uninformed, and I feel the need to respond.
The impression that I'm even one percent anti-Sioux or anti-NCAA would probably downright laughable to anyone who knows me.
To simplify, I never said you receive an ideal education playing junior hockey. But the implication in some previous posts was that you get zero education, or at least an inferior one. The fact that WHL scholarships are forfeited in the event of signing a pro contract...well, tell me something: What happens to an NCAA scholarship when a player signs a contract, or is even cut?
I'm not trying to grind an axe; just trying to engage in discussions. I thought that's what these boards were for.
I know who Canuck is and wouldn't question his allegiance to the Sioux. And I thought you would bring up when an NCAA player signs a contract. The key difference is that while they lose the scholarship, while playing college hockey, school is at least as important as hockey (or at least it should be). That is in no way the case in the CHL. So a guy that played NCAA for three years then signed a contract has three years of college/university completed, while a guy who plays three years in the CHL and then signs a contract has nothing.
This whole "argument" was based on development toward the NHL, and the only guys that can benefit from the CHL scholarship program are ones that do not go on to the pros.
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Canuck,
I wasn't responding to your first comment, just clarifying the second which pertained to the college scholarship. The scholarship is really the meat of the education package. Do you really believe that players are making meaningful progress in education while they are playing in a league with a 70 game season and road trips like Portland to Brandon and Everett to Regina? Add to that the possibility a player could be traded, and taking classes while playing is a very difficult task.
With regard to the WHL scholarship, the portion you quoted made that seem guaranteed. I simply pointed out that wasn't the case. Once a player signs a contract, the scholarship is forfeited.
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Perhaps you had a personal situation that has caused you to feel this way, but it sure doesn't look to me that they're treated as horribly as you imply:
Of particular note:
And:Provided the player never signs a pro contract.
Another advantage for the NCAA is the certainty of where you will play. A kid can't get shipped off to Union or Merrimack if they get off to a slow start.
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Being a second generation J-school grad it really is apalling the neglect shown by the administration over the past 30 years. At one time UND was right there with schools like Kansas, Missouri and Syracuse for journalism and produced the likes of Irv Kupcinet and Chuck Johnson. But while money was going to the business school and CAS, the journalism school was left to die on the vine. Hopefully the current situation can be resolved and the department can right the ship, but I fear that will take quite a long time.
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I'd think North Texas would be on the WAC radar before any Big Sky schools. Gets them into the Dallas media market and the fertile texas recruiting grounds. Plus they are already I-A.
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I hope that Sparky will be battling WCHA foes to the pain for at least two more years.
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If it were up to Sioux fans, it would happen in an instant!
I think it would be fun to set up a non-conference game against Holy Cross in the future, ala Canisius (I miss my Wookie... 
)Hopefully I'll find out tomorrow which #'s will be available for the jerseys of past seasons.
An ideal scanario would have the Sioux making a trip and playing BU or BC at Fenway on a Friday night and then taking on Holy Cross at the DCU Center on Saturday night. I think the UND-BC rivalry will help make the Fenway game a reality.
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LFSPRO had a good idea. Would anyone be interested in having their jersey signed by the team if I can get the PR lady to set it up for us?
I'd definitely be interested in this.
lawsuit --it's on!
in UND Nickname
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Hopefully in addition to securing the funding for the lawsuit, the university has secured some savvy media consultants, because that is really where this whole thing will be won or lost. The media attention that this will receive is beyond anything seen in Grand Forks before. President Kupchella's letter was a solid start, but it is now vital to have the right person out front and on camera for the interviews with Anderson Cooper, Larry King, Sean Hannity, etc. Now is the time to go on the offensive before the NCAA can push their spin that UND is racist and exploiting Native Americans. Strike while the iron is hot!