nodakvindy
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If UAA wins today I believe they would become a TUC which would help UND by improving our PWR and it would drop Bucky below us. Go Seawolves.
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Actually, UAA is a TUC, and that is why Bucky jumped the Sioux. Bucky is 5-1 against UAA this year, and that made a huge improvemet in their TUC record. Sioux fans should actually pull for Bucky to win. This would drop UAA from the TUCs and I'd actually rather play Bucky than UAA in the play-in game. Bucky is really slumping right now.
Also, pull for Ferris State over Ohio State, which would probably knock out the Buckeyes. Then as long as Michigan wins the CCHA tourney, only one CCHA team will get in.
Canisius losing in the AHA playoffs deprived the Sioux of some potential cheap TUC wins. The only way the Sioux are hurt is if Mercyhurst wins AHA, as that would give Wisconsin two and UNH one TUC win.
Even with only one weekend left there is still a lot that can happen. The Sioux have little chance of flipping the comparisons with any of the current PWR top 5, but the Harvard, Michigan and Wisconsin comparisons are all winnable. There is also the possibility of winning the Boston U. comparison. Of comparisons the Sioux currently win, most are pretty solid, with New Hampshire the most at risk, and Ohio State or Michigan State being a slight possibility if either can win the CCHA.
So it looks like UND is a solid #3 seed, with a fair chance at moving to a #2 with two wins or even a single win over Wisconsin if UAA isn't a TUC.
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Canisius could also play a role. If they win the Atlantic Hockey autobid they become a TUC regardless of RPI and that would give the Sioux two critical TUC wins.
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Hakstol is much more cautious. Blais probably wasn't as cautious as he should have been.
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PCM, that's a pretty intriguing statement, care to elaborate at all.
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Things I miss
- the scoreboard scrolling current league standings
- recognition of the first retired number at UND and our 1980 Olympic Hero
- the friendship broom (bonus points if you even know you competes for it)
- player buttons
- the Siouxper shot at intermission
- a single zamboni
- the old dasher boards (pucks would circle the whole way on the rail)
- going to the john on the season ticket side and being able to hear Dean or Gino make the paint on the walls blister during an intermission
- having the opposing team have to make its way through a mob of Sioux fans
- the old school banners for the WCHA schools
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A loss to Canisius would be as shocking as the loss to US International over the holidays during the 86-87 season. Although if it resulted in the season ending the same way I would gladly take it.
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Why should The Forum bother to publish athletic budget shortfalls, when it's public information right here?- http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstList.asp
FY2004-
North Dakota State- -$40,406
University of North Dakota- -$406,724
Last year's numbers were fairly similar.
As far as a $1MM budget shortfall for NDSU, a lot may have happened since the beginning of the fiscal year (when it was announced). I'm fairly sure UND did not project a loss of over $400k last year. Projections and actual numbers are two entirely different things.
Now, the question that should be raised is "How can a school with ten times the athletic budget shortfall possibly consider being able to fund a move to DI?"
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Those numbers are interesting. First, becuase a large portion of NDSU's revenues and expenses were lumped in the vague "unallocated by gender" pot. This seems like it could be some accounting trick to make things appear better than they are. I think the opposite is happening at UND, with Betty construction costs being absorbed by the athletic department.
More importantly NDSU is no where near complying with Title IX, with men receiving 66% of scholarship funds and making up 70% of all athletes despite making up only 55% of the student body. Those scholarship numbers will be further skewed this year with an additional 20 football scholarships. But hey, good luck with that.
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With the Big Sky looking as a truly viable option for UND athletics I thought I'd pull out my crystal ball and see what the future has in store should we move ahead on that path. I'll also offer some thought on our neighbors to the south.
Sport offerings - Both UND and NDSU have nearly all the required Big Sky offerings, UND would need to add tennis for men, while NDSU would need to add it for men and women. Of course, this requirement could be lifted. Several teams would also be left without a conference. For UND, baseball, softball and men's and women's swimming. For NDSU, baseball, softball and wrestling.
Title IX - This has seemingly been glossed over in the NDSU move. They have added a ton of scholarships for football, but no mention has been made of scholarship additions for women. UND is in a much better position in that they offer more women's sports, which can help counteract the extra scholarships of football.
Both school seem poised to move up and in short amount of time, be competitive at least on the conference level. Travel budgets would certainly increase, as it nearby opponents are few and far between. However that is increasingly becoming the case in DII. This could also be made up with a few "guarantee" games in basketball and football.
The biggest challenge is for the teams with conference affiliations, for swimming this isn't a big deal as the team already travels extensively and this year is competing against a lot of Division I schools. Softball and baseball would be far more difficult. In fact, I believe baseball would be cut if there is a move to DI. Kraft Field is substandard and it is virtually impossible for northern schools to be competitive in baseball. Softball would also be a logical cut, but would likely survive due to Title IX.
NDSU would have a more difficult choice as I think they would also need to cut a sport, with Wrestling and Baseball the only options. Wrestling is a highly successful program, but the sport is dying at the collegiate level. The baseball team has a fantastic facility, but again it's nearly impossible to succeed in DI.
One other likely outcome of the DI move is the loss of local kids making up a large portion of teams. I don't think you can underestimate the importance of having local athletes in terms of media attention and attendance. If future Sioux teams are populated by athletes from Milwaukee, Chicago, California and Texas then it could be difficult to keep fan interest if the losses start piling up.
Finally, while I think it is prudent to stay aware of the fiscal challenges of the move in the short term, a long term view is also needed. The gradual downward spiral of DII makes it almost certain that UND will need to move to DI. While it might be hard now, it will likely be just as difficult later and the likelihood of a good conference match is slim. For that reason I think the time is now for a DI move.
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The road playoff demons are exorcised. On to Houghton!
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It's heart attack time again
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UGH! terrible play calling. 5 wides on 3rd and 2. How can you not at least make them think about the run.
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Bob's Picks
I'll Knock on wood here because the Fat Lady hasn't sang yet, and she won't until about Noon tomarrow on what the final picks will be, but it looks like we can all say welcome to the Second season.
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I'll go out on a limb and say that if those are indeed the regional pairings, get ready for Sioux-Lakers III at the Alerus on Nov. 27
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UND had some solid clubs during that time, especially the mid to late 60s. 1970-78 and 1990-95 can fairly be described as lean periods in Sioux hockey history. Both ended with the arrival of news coaches, John "Gino" Gasparini in 1979 and Dean Blais in 1994. The recent arrival of coach Hakstol is the first time a new coach has taken over the program in good shape since a spate of coaching changes in the 1960s.
I know in a previous message you mentioned the Sioux playing Army or Princeton. It doesn't look like they will play at either any time soon, but if you haven't done so, you should take the opportunity to go to a game at Princeton. Their home, Hobey Baker Rink (also the namesake for hockey's version of the Heisman Trophy) is college hockey's equivalent of Wrigley Field. Every fan should see at least one game there. The place just oozes history, and the hot chocolate is good and very cheap. Roads trips are one of the real joys of college hockey and if you get a chance to see the Sioux on the road, you will see how rabid and passionate Sioux fans are in following their team.
Welcome aboard!
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I've watched both dataflix and last night's Maine broadcast. When dataflix is on, like it was at the end of last season, they are quite comparable. I think dataflix is fine, they just need to make sure all the equipment is up to par. The Maine product certainly wasn't worth twice as much.
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Yeah, just stopped and restarted it, now working fine. Damn, missed two goals though.
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Anyone's stream working now. I've got the audio, but video just a series of still images.
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For all those so worried about track, perhaps UND is waiting for a joint announcment of the move to DI and a contact to train pilots and air traffic controllers for Air Kenya.
I wouldn't mind seeing UND focus some money on getting so internationals who could potentially make their nation's Olympic teams. This could get us some media attention. Women's hockey, track and swimming all seem like possible targets.
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If you have the exact sports that the BSC mandates, you're T9 complient.
Any extra sports you have must cancel each other out on the men's and women's side.
IE if you also have baseball, you have to have softball, hockey and hockey, swimming and swimming, etc.
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The number of sports doesn't matter, it's both the number of opportunities (ie athletes) and the number of scholarships. I'd wager that Big Sky schools that are compliant are maxed out on scholarships for womens' teams and offer the minimum for mens' teams if they only offer the mandated sports. Soccer, Volleyball and Golf don't balance out football, so the balance has to come from the other sports, tennis and track.
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Here's the big question
How much does Hockey Net in a Year?
How much does/will Women's Hockey Cost?
How much fundraising will UND have to do/if any in order to meet DI Title 9 requirements?
I'd be happy to hear wild guesses.
Also, there are a few websites that have dollar figures, but everyone seems to do their accounting a little differently.
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I think, with some successful seasons, the women's hockey program has the potential to join women's hoop as revenue positive, or at least self supporting. There is also the potential to produce Olympians, which can have a large benefit in terms of promotion. That's why I think you will continue to see a more international flavor on UND's swim teams.
Men's hockey is an abso-freaking-lute cash cow, helping build the Betty and supporting the entire athletic program. No reason to believe that won't continue, and once the U gets control of the Ralph the real money can start to pour in.
On the other side of the coin, NDSU added 18.5 scholarships for football this year, where did the money go on the women's side. I've heard nothing about adding a women's sport, which they almost certainly must do. UND is ahead of the game there having already added women's hockey and with it eventually 18 schollies. That's 2/3 of the offset for moving to DI-AA football.
Another important consideration is that UND is hosting the crown jewel of DII sports this year, the Elite Eight. I think UND is just waiting until that is over to announce their move. They don't want to distract from that event or diminish the impressive accomplishments UND has achieved in DII. There isn't the need to constantly bad mouth DII like NDSU and SDSU have done.
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This is my first post. I had inteded to wait till the season ended however bison1234 your civility has prompted my to do so now. I am from Crookston and I have watched with complete disgust at the constant bashing of the UMC program. I agree it is not on a par with UND OR NDSU how ever the games have been good (not only Football) for all institutions at some level. I do not agree with your politics however to each there own. When I played ball we were taught to respect our opponent and if beaten to support the continued success of said opponent as it only made us look better. I have been reading this, as well as the bison board for the last three years and in my opinion the sioux board is far more informative which is why I am here the bison board is full of pompus a$$H$$$$. I would like to compliment you and the guy with the helmet (bison) your recent posts leave me to beleive there is hope for you guys. Make no mistake I was a non biased veiwer at one time I love UND but have a soft spot for the Herd as many freinds and family have played for the Herd. I will always follow bison football with interest however after reading comments from you JBB and others it will be some time before I consider myself a NDSU fan. I compliment you however you seem to have matured much in the past year. To bad about JBB however. I know a little interschool rivalry is not only fun but also nesassary, honestly though go back to the smack board at bisonville and think about what you see. I come to the boards to learn about the programs and enjoy the analysis, not listen to the childish banter of people like "Never heard of them". Thank for your attention and please keep striding toward civil competative fun and education for us old guys. By the way I farm as well and if you would like I would like to educate you about agriculture and its relationship to governments and consumers ( i read all your posts).
Bravo, DADDAWG!
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The 60 scholarship average is only a requirement if the I-A team needs to count the game to become bowl eligible. NDSU could have played USC or LSU this year, even UND could have. The win just wouldn't have counted toward making them bowl eligible. Schools can only count a I-AA win toward bowl eligibility once every four years I believe. Last year Kansas St. played a couple of I-AAs. They know they will be bowl eligible, so for them it's about home games and a sold out stadium. The new BCS formula may promote more I-A vs. I-AA games, as the polls weight so heavily that the schedule strength element isn't as much of a deterrent.
Sorry, somebison beat me to the punch on this.
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Franchising sounds interesting, although in most of the rest of the world, a place called the 23 Sports Grille doesn't conjure up the image of Ralph Engelstad.
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I was just checking out the CSTV web site and saw that some early season games are listed. Two Sioux games are listed so far, the Oct. 8 game against Maine and the Oct. 29 game against Boston College. Nice to see the national exposure for some big games out east.
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Tennessee and Wyoming had a traditional home and home agreement. The first game was in Knoxville. The second was supposed to be in Laramie, but the Nashville Athletic Commission offered the University of Wyoming $2 million (give or take) to play the game at Adelphia Coliseum, affectively buying them out. They accepted and were still the "home" team for the game. Nice money for the school, but a pretty shoddy thing to do to your fanbase at home. It would have been a real treat for them to see Tennessee in person. But that's life in big time college football.
Forget Adam, the real problem is upstairs
in Men's Hockey
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Don Adam's performance in the last two weeks has been nothing short of pathetic, and while there has been plenty of criticism (and deservedly so) of Adam, I think the biggest culprits have gotten off somewhat. Both Greg Shepherd and Bruce McLeod should be relieved of their jobs.
The primary reason they should be dumped is the open defiance the WCHA has shown in disregarding the NCAA's point of emphasis on interference and holding. All of the other conferences have gone along with this and the game is the better for it. More importantly their decision has created an environment of increased risk of injury for student athletes. This is simply unacceptable.
Unfortunately, this won't happen on its own. The schools must take back some control. I hope Phil Harmeson has had some private conferences with Michigan Tech AD Rick Yeo and the AD of Wisconsin. Wisconsin saw the poor work of Adam last week, and Yeo was among those who decided on the post-game suspension of Paukovich. If the schools won't stand up for the best interests of their student athletes then no one will.
The best way to send a message is to send McLeod and Shepherd packing and bring in a new sheriff to clean things up. Someone who cares about the college game and knows how to make it better. And if the NHL lockout continues to drag on, I know of a perfect candidate - someone who has a nearly 35 year relationship with the league as a player, assistant coach and head coach, has the respect of his peers and isn't afraid to speak up when need be. You guessed it - Dean Blais.