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  1. 6 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

    That's a completely different topic and world.  Why are you talking about that?

    What is Alex Berenson's credentials for writing about this?  He isn't a doctor, an epidemiologist, nor even a particularly well-sourced and thorough reporter.   He's just a guy who writes bad novels and posts what you like to hear on Twitter.  Why should I trust any random weirdo on the internet over the experts at the CDC, WHO, etc.?

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  2. 16 minutes ago, petey23 said:

    Really? Which one? This drug is literally made by 25-30 companies or more and has been off patent for years. Costs about 50 cents a dose.

    Don't feel bad, the fake news media live wells are full of people willing to believe anything they report.

    I'd look at the two companies the VA ordered it from using a no-bid emergency ordering process.   

    I guess any news that conflicts with Conservatives shaky grasp on reality is fake news now.

  3. 1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

    Do you think that asymptomatic people will act differently if they know they are positive?  I don’t think they will.  Conscientious people will continue to act conscientiously and reckless people recklessly.  So testing then would be a tool used by authorities to impose will?  God is that a slippery slope.  Especially with something biological...

    Testing is going to be key in getting back to normal.  Most companies are going to have a negative Covid test as a qualification for a sick employee to return to work when this opens back up.  This is a total mismatch with the reality in most states where tests are being rationed to only the most sick and those with a potential exposure.   Without testing capacity this will result in billions in lost productivity as employees sit at home without access to a test because they weren't sick enough or who had other less contagious conditions.   

  4. 28 minutes ago, keikla said:

    I find this surprising...not that they're so far behind but that they're still supporting it.  The vast majority of hospitals here have pulled it from their treatment protocols. It is not just a concern of lack of efficacy, but a concern for poorer outcomes compared to those who don't receive the medication at all. 

    The VA's experience with hydroxochlorquine was disastrous and likely resulted in the hastened death of 100's of veterans.  At this point, it's a snake oil cure but Trump pumped it up as it's manufactured by folks who support his campaign, who will likely pay him back with a campaign donation.

  5. Just now, yzerman19 said:

    You don’t move the dial without throwing out ideas.  He wasn’t suggesting you literally inject disinfectant.  It’s an analog.  Do anti-clotting meds work kind of like liquid plumber...well yes...that doesn’t mean inject your aorta with liquid plumber.
     

    The masses have clearly never tried to advance the ball in opacity.  It’s not easy, and is iterative....

    I can just imagine the first time someone suggested using radiation to treat cancer...this idiot wants to use the same stuff that comes from an atomic bomb on people???!  Well, kinda, yeah, gotta Titrate  itvand tweak it...

    You have no idea that he didn't mean literally injecting people with disinfectant.  You want to assume he isn't that stupid because it makes you feel better about your support for him but I think considering the whole sum of his statements and actions, it's abundantly clear that he is that stupid.

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  6. 8 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

    what's more dangerous...saying things like maybe hydroclorquine and z pac "maybe should be looked into" or giving iran 6 billion dollars......in cash? whose the moron here.

    Obama unfroze $6 billion of Iranian cash that was sitting US bank accounts in exchange for Iran suspending their nuclear program.  Trump tore that up and now Iran has re-started the program.   Trump is letting North Korea develop  and enhance nukes in exchange for a few love letters from time to time.

  7. 9 minutes ago, petey23 said:

    Or they got 1 prank call. But hey it advances the narrative.

    Trump could control the narrative a little more if he actually took the time to prep for these briefings and didn't just utter every idiot thought that entered his head.   It's not the media's fault that he repeatedly says insanely moronic statements at these.

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  8. 12 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

    Again not to make this political but half of America either falls right or left. There is no typical or average American. Any poll on any political topic bears this out. So you don't have to walk something back next time don't start your point with "MAGA......"

    Would it have been better if he started it off with the more accurate description of "idiot" crowd?   These protestors actually blocked access to hospitals for ambulances in Michigan and Colorado.  Is the type of behavior that you want to encourage?

  9. 1 hour ago, Walsh Hall said:

    It's wonderful that we have a processing plant expert in our midst that can educate us on the proper meat packing sanitation methods which can be utilized when dealing with pandemics, including the supply chain and health ramifications...

    I, admittedly, have no real clue on how to properly run a meat processing plant, and what steps can reasonable be taken to safeguard the employees.  I'd be completely leaving my lane to question the day-to-day operations of such an operation.

     It's wonderful that you are an expert and can educate us...  or just maybe you have absolutely no clue on how to operate a meat processing plant and you are pulling stuff out of your butt.

    Oh come one now..... we have numerous posters posting about epidemiology and statistics, that are clearly pulling stuff out their ass (ie. Oxbow, UND1983, etc.)

  10. 32 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

    And how is that.

    Well let's look at what we have and what we don't have twelve weeks into this

    Dont' Have

    -Wide spread testing (we also have no timeline for getting it in the future)

    -Sufficient PPE (nor do we have a system to allocate PPE to support hospitals during outbreaks as evidenced by NYC, Albany GA, Michigan, etc.)

    - Sufficient monetary support to individuals and small businesses impacted by the shutdown to prevent foreclosures and other personal financial hardship.

    -Sufficient financial support for hospitals to keep them open and fully staffed during the outbreak

    Have

    -$500 billion slush fund with virtually no accountability and no concrete plans for deploying

    -$390 billion SBA loan program that has turned into a boondoggle with little to no actual funds being disbursed

    -Some retroactive tax cuts that will take months for taxpayers to monetize

    -Six or seven distributors of PPE that get free products from the federal government that they turn around and sell at an extremely high mark up to the various state goverments

     

    Describing our response as second world is extremely charitable as there are multiple third world countries who've addresses this better than us.

     

  11. 17 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

    C'mon, you present some good facts but spreading 60,000 flu deaths over the course of 365 days is misleading.  A more accurate daily count would be spreading those deaths over the actual flu season (i.e. Dec-March or whatever the official season is).

    So using that methodology, you'd assume the flu season is roughly 13 weeks long which amounts to around 691 deaths a day. 799 died in New York City alone yesterday.   One can only imagine what that would mean in terms of daily deaths if this disease was a as widespread as the flu.  

    Rural Americans are kidding themselves if they think this won't impact them.   A widespread outbreak would overwhelm rural health care systems quickly and since urban healthcare systems would already be overwhelmed or on the brink of being overwhelmed there will be no backup valves to handle critical care patients when the limited ICU beds available to rural hospitals are full.

  12. 1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

    SHOCKING: MN Sen & Dr. @drscottjensen said that he received a 7 pg doc from @mnhealth to fill out death certificates with a diagnosis of #COVID-19 whether the person actually died from COVID-19 or not.  

    Why is #MN inflating COVID-19 death numbers? https://t.co/llvHDoIMGH

     

    This is extremely concerning.... apparently both Dr. Scott Jensen and Chris Berg have zero reading comprehension skill as that most certainly is not what that 7 page document says.  It's well know that Berg is moron but it's still shocking to see a doctor and state senator exhibit such stupidity.  

  13. 2 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:

    This has finally come into focus for me, and it's mind blowing.

    People want to compare this to war, and want to invoke the American fighting spirit and a sense of national unity.  But since when is America so afraid of death?

    Does D-Day happen - at all - if the DC brain trust (political and military) sat around discussing a 'flattened curve' of American and Allied casualties?  What if they had postponed the invasion a few months, waiting to see if they could devise a less bloody strategy or strengthen their medical corps?  No, to the contrary, we sacrificed thousands of lives - history books tell us it was the right thing, and for 75+ years we have celebrated the heroism and bravery and honored the dead with the utmost reverence.

    Maybe coronavirus isn't so much something to be feared as something to be boldly endured.  Yes, people are going to die.  No, not everyone who needs medical attention will get it.  I'm sure a lot of GIs bled out on the beach in Normandy who could have been saved if there had been medical aid available. 

    And what is the right number of ventilators?  Or ICU beds?  And what triage priority to patients?  What was our deployed medical capacity in WWII?  Should there have been a med-evac unit available for every soldier on June 6, 1944?  I don't even know if there was an evacuation plan in place, because the early waves of the invasion were a bit of a one-way ticket.  

    Yes. Take reasonable precautions.  Save lives.  But we all have to LIVE our lives, too.  Please do not invoke any national obligation to avoid death at all costs, or say sacrificing all individual liberties along with every shred of normalcy and destroying (even temporarily) the quality of life we have all earned and enjoyed is the right thing to do.  Because that seems like a slap in the face to what this country stands for.  Or used to stand for.

    The survivors will remember.  The dead will not have died in vain.  And if this is a war we cannot win, let us die with dignity - and valor, and not in fear.

    It probably doesn't need to be said but the planning for D-Day probably would have been quite a bit different if 80 year old grandmothers and six month old children were on the front lines so this comparison is meaningless.  Also, we're looking at casualty number in the U.S. alone that exceeds any military battle in history.

  14. 2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

    Again to your first point......with peaks in most states hitting late April the overwhelming argument won't be in play a whole lot longer after to that.

    I'll be blunt......you've been completely out of your lane on these topics since day one. You parrot talking points...that it. Stay holed up in Thompson for as long as you want. No one is going to stop you from peaking your head out the door after 4/30.

    This is pretty goddamn rich coming from you, Oxblowhard.   You should stop pretending to be a doctor on Siouxsports.   Your advice will likely kill people.

  15. 2 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

    Does anyone really care that much about who is President and what party they belong to?  Sadly, it appears so.  Appearance is the key word though, because to me it appears that no matter who is the head of the executive branch, nothing really changes but appearances.  I mean we all have philosophical bias, but how philosophy becomes policy....well...
     

    I guess if you are on the government dole it might matter, but to the rest of us, it doesn’t really make a difference...my daily life doesn’t change...maybe everyone’s life has become so easy that the only thing to bitch about is the federal government.  Just do yourselves a favor and don’t watch your entertainment news all day.  It only makes things worse.

    It would seem that whoever the President is does matter, because if Hillary Clinton would have won in 2016 we'd probably have had this under control after a few hundred cases and we'd all be enjoying our spring now.  Instead Trump threw the pandemic response team and resources that Obama developed in the trash can because he's so racist that he needed to try and undermine everyone of the Obama administrations accomplishments. 

  16. Just now, UND1983 said:

    Besides you being not smart, you don't understand the electoral college.  For you to write that is extremely embarrassing.  

    His election in 2016 was a fluke.... how do you think he's going to win Michigan after trashing the state and denying aid to them because he has a disagreement with their governor?

  17. 48 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

    Liberals (not all, but many) that won't give Trump credit for anything, and that have been complaining for the last 3+ years, thought that Covid was finally the ticket they had been waiting for to end his chance at re-election.  The MSM jumped on board too and tried to turn what admittedly is an issue that warrants attention.....into an all out the world is ending panic situation that is all Trump's fault.  The ironic thing is that it's going to backfire and instead it will guarantee Trump's re-election.  Since they have already established that the Covid issue is all Trump's responsibility.....when the actual deaths nationwide are much fewer than experts predicted....Trump will be able to take all the credit.   War time President's typically fair well, especially successful ones.  Between that and the Democrats somehow once again not being able to put forth a viable candidate after having 3+ years to find one, you are looking at another 4 years of Trump.  

    Making something a bigger deal than it needed to be makes overcoming said issue seem equally as big.

    Trump will lose and lose badly in November.   He's hated by 2/3rd's of this country and has completely disgraced himself and the presidency during this crisis.  His administration is the most incompetent in U.S. history and the only actions that have saved lives during this were taken by competent, mostly Democratic Governors (Cuomo, Walz, Newsome, etc).

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  18. 41 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

    Seriously..... that's your response???

    Examples? Facts? Statistics? Something other than your nonsensical drivel that you spew repeatedly please.

    You're not sharing a statistic or a fact.  You're providing an unattributed anecdote about discussions you had with "well connected friends".   Personally, I have a hard time believing someone who is as well connected as you claim to be would spend as much time on this website as you do.

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