82SiouxGuy

I never said that anyone would be upset at a UND national title. Yet again you make things up. The title would be a separate event from a regular season loss to NDSU. The fans would be happy about the national title, and still can be upset about losing to NDSU. Two separate events, 2 separate emotions. It isn't all or nothing. Playing a team over a long time doesn't automatically make them rivals. UND played Augustana more than 60 times starting in 1942, were they a rival? UND played Morningside more than 65 times starting in 1925, were they a rival? UND played SDSU more than 80 times since 1906, were they a rival for UND? My answer is no to all 3. UND and USD were closer to rivals, but I don't think that most people ever considered them real rivals for UND. NDSU and SDSU were conference mates, but weren't heated rivals. When they both lost their rival, they created a trophy and "manufactured" a rivalry. As another example, Northwestern has played the University of Minnesota 89 times since 1892. Does anyone consider them rivals? They belong to the same conference, they aren't rivals.

That was Paul Allen from KFAN. I'm not sure if that was an honest mistake or a shot at UND, because he definitely knows what Nodak is short for.

If NDSU had ever won a national title in FBS, that might be something different. They play in FCS just like UND. They have beat FBS teams, but don't compete for FBS titles. Does NDSU have a true rival that they've been playing the past 3 years? They have a manufactured rival in SDSU, and have developed a little bit of a rivalry with UNI, but neither of those match up to the rivalry with UND. They don't have the history attached to a long term rivalry. Rivalry games are different than big games. And I'm not talking about the feeling in the lockerroom immediately after a title game. This discussion has been about fans, not the team. And the emotions or feelings long term are different from the immediate rush of feelings that happen right after a win. Emotions 3 months, 6 months or 10 years after the end of the title game will be different than what they are when the final whistle blows. But that is another nice effort to change the discussion.

Nice attempt to mistate everything I have said. My point is that a lot of people look at the individual games as separate events. You can have individual feelings about the individual games, a lot of people do. Winning the 2nd game, even if it is the national title game, doesn't eliminate the bad feelings about losing a rivalry game during the season, although it can make it easier to take. If UND and NDSU were still playing for the Nickel Trophy and NDSU won the Nickel while UND beat them for the national title, UND fans would be very happy about winning the national title, but losing the Nickel would still bother a lot of them. It would be like winning the war, but losing a key battle along the way. And you are the only one that needs to bring an asterisk into the discussion.

You may not care, but plenty of others still care about every game lost to Minnesota. Besides, comparing individual game losses during a college hockey season to games lost during a football season isn't usually an apples to apples comparison. College hockey teams in the same league often play 4 games against each other during the regular season, plus may face each other during league playoffs and could face each other again in the national tournament. Not exactly the same as college football where the teams face each other 1 time per year most years and might face each other a second time in a league championship game or a bowl game on a rare occasion. The individual games in college football are normally much more memorable than individual games in college hockey, or even cumulative records for the season in college hockey. This discussion is about rivalry games in college football. As far as your example, I'll go back to 1979. After several losing years, beating Minnesota to win the WCHA title was huge for UND (and those of us that were around at that time). Losing to them in the national title game hurt, but it didn't eliminate the good feelings from the WCHA title. Winning national titles 2 out of the next 3 years was even better. But a lot of us remember that the streak started with that win against Minnesota for the WCHA title in 1979, not the loss a few weeks later in the national title game.

My guess is that everyone associated with Alabama remember both very well. As does everyone associated with LSU. The loss still hurts and the win is still being celebrated. It isn't either/or. Beating a rival is special. Winning a national title is special. Beating a rival for a national title is an added bonus. But even beating a rival for a national championship doesn't eliminate the memory of losing to them earlier in the year.

You're the one that showed up here and started protesting. You only do that when you think you need to protect NDSU's image. So, you must think NDSU's image is at risk, otherwise you wouldn't bother showing up here.

Anyone else notice that the only time CAS shows up here is when NDSU looks bad and he thinks he has to protect the "Bison image"? Then he shows up here to insult people and UND so that he can distract from the actual discussion.

A press release would have accomplished what you are talking about. The press conference was more than what was needed. Can you say, "Overcompensation"?

UND settlement agreement with the NCAA was dated October 26, 2007. President Kelley took office on July 1, 2008. President Kelley had nothing to do with the lawsuit other than deal with the aftermath.

A school is allowed so many scholarships in each sport. It doesn't matter how many sports the athlete plays. Technically, a student could play 3 or 4 sports, they can only get 1 full scholarship. So she could play softball, basketball, run cross-country and track if the coaches all agreed. But she can only be given the equivalent of 1 scholarship, and that could be in any of the sports. I believe that she would be considered the same as a walk-on in the other sports (I would have to go through the rules to be sure but I don't feel like doing that).

The difference is that I don't believe GT would have followed through with the H/H deal. He changed the terms during negotiations many times after that, so there is no doubt in my mind that he would have changed the terms again before signing that deal. We just would have gotten to the 2 games in Fargo with no games in Grand Forks proposal much quicker. I'm surprised that he didn't propose UND paying for the opportunity to play NDSU.

That complex is aimed specifically at college students. They are more like college suites than apartments. People rent bedrooms as individuals and share living space. They have 2 and 3 bedroom units. It looks like all are furnished. They include washers and dryers in the units, along with other amenities. They have indoor and outdoor recreation facilities and hold community events. It is about building a community for college age students. It has worked for them in other states, although I have heard that there were some locations that had issues with things like building quality and hard to work with management.

It's funny, I see things from both sides also. Just because you claim to be impartial doesn't mean that you are. I believe it is bad faith negotiation to keep changing the terms and make the negotiations more difficult. If you don't want to do a deal, say so. UND has made plenty of mistakes over the years. We don't know what mistakes they may have made in this negotiation, I don't remember seeing anything specific being mentioned that would be a major mistake from their side. Not sending the contract would be a mistake, but Faison has been quoted as saying he did actually send the contracts on more than 1 occasion. Negotiation is a give and take of possible terms. Normally the sides work from the outside toward the middle. NDSU continues to keep moving away from a deal, that is not good faith negotiation. And that is where your lack of impartiality shows, you don't admit that NDSU has worked to avoid a deal rather than trying to make a deal work.

We do know that NDSU continued to change their demands, making them more and more restrictive toward UND. That was shown in emails. If it looked like UND was going to accept the demands, then NDSU would make more demands. We know that the 2 sides agreed to a basic framework of a contract, emails show that Faison was sending a written copy of that to NDSU. Then NDSU changed their demands yet again. We don't have the details of what was discussed at any time, but we know that NDSU continued to move the bar. That isn't considered bargaining in good faith. You continuing to show up here trying to make NDSU look better isn't going to accomplish anything. Maybe you should take your own advice and just quit.

We're happy that you and Hayduke are bonding. Doesn't mean that I have to advocate quitting or that I didn't ask a legitimate question. A professional business person doesn't take no as a final answer if it is something important to them or their business. They keep trying to find a way to make something work. That is what Faison has been doing, working a lot of different angles trying to make a deal work. The problem is that NDSU keeps changing their demands. It's hard to make a deal when the other side doesn't deal in good faith.

You are correct. Another example is the pipeline work being done. The guys that are working on the pipeline in the Walhalla area this summer have been living in Grand Forks and working closer to Walhalla because there is no housing up there. They have a parking lot off I-29 near Oslo where they leave vehicles. A suggestion has been made that they may need to set up a man camp in the Grand Forks area when the fertilizer plant is under construction because they will need so many workers during that period. The UAS park should bring in higher paying workers which will be able to afford the higher end houses and apartments being built.

Just asked the question. You are an NDSU backer and you are advising Faison to quit if he doesn't get what he asked for, so I asked if that was something you learned at NDSU. Seems like a fair question to me.

That sounds like a quitter's attitude. If you don't get what you want you just quit trying. Is that what they preach at NDSU? Professionals keep trying to find a way to make a deal work, they don't just quit trying.

Last numbers I heard were that apartment vacancies were still running at 2 or 3% in Grand Forks. At least part of the rate is people moving from 1 apartment to another, so a unit is available for a short time. They have stayed at those rates for the last few years in spite of the new units that have been built during that time. Normal vacancy rates are closer to 5-7%. 1 bedroom apartments were almost impossible to find last winter. There is at least some of your pent-up demand. Increasing population makes up another part of the demand. The new luxury building is a different demographic. That would be multiple income couples that don't want to own a home. College professors and medical staff are examples where you can often find couples who both earn significant salaries. I know several baby boomers that are looking at moving out of their homes and are thinking about higher end apartments or townhomes because they don't want to spend time on the work of upkeep. Single family homes under $250,000 is another story. Most homes in that range sell in a very short period of time in Grand Forks because there aren't a lot available. But contractors continue to build higher end homes because a) those homes are still selling at a good rate showing there is demand for them, and b) contractors are booked pretty solid right now so they don't need to look for more work. They can make more money on a high priced house so they are choosing those projects rather than looking for cheaper projects.

First, you are operating from a false premise. UND and NDSU have existed on the same level of football for more than 90% of the last century, a few years head start at a new level doesn't equate to UND being a "fledgling" team. That only exists in the NDSU blogosphere. Second, UND hockey has a history of supporting regional schools as they move up. Check the histories of Bemidji State, Mankato State, and St. Cloud State. UND was one of the first hockey powers to schedule home and home series with these schools. You always need to schedule away games and UND likes to have some away hockey games that are easy driving distance for fans. The challenge is balancing those games close to home with playing a schedule that includes top programs from around the country. UND was never afraid of any perception or losing any recruiting advantages. If you are afraid of losing some mythical recruiting advantage, you really don't have an advantage. It shows a real lack of confidence in your program and its' ability to maintain any advantage they currently have.

He probably missed that episode on the History Channel, his main source of history education.

Costume party is meaningless, birthday party shows true character. That is one of the stupidest things ever posted by you or any other BSviller.

Again, a snot-nosed college student at an ag school in North Dakota is making claims that are opposite the reports made by experts that actually investigated the topic. I think I will believe the experts from the FBI over the snot-nosed kid.

Careful, you might interfere with his irrational hate of someone he never met, someone that has had absolutely no effect on his life. Irrational hate and holding grudges are important to little Johnny and his pals over on BSville.