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You've been talking to Kauker too much there Legend.....



Do you mean Mark was wrong about this?
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Interesting article on the history of nicknames.
http://small-business-help69651.blogspot.c...-could-wax.html
The matter isn't going away anytime soon. Now the NCAA --- college sports' governing body --- has decreed that any university with a Native American mascot can neither host a championship event nor use their mascot in any championship event. Some schools have successfully been granted exceptions, which makes even less sense to me. Does this mean that Florida State's Seminoles, for example, are less demeaning to Native Americans than North Dakota's Fighting Sioux (a traditional college hockey power)? How hypocritical is that? If they're contending that degrees of discrimination exist due to local circumstances, then they're admitting to a targeted sensitivity beyond society's pale, which is discriminatory in itself. How can such a position be rationalized with a clear conscience?I never tire of hearing North Dakota noted as a hockey power or hockey powerhouse.
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Actually according to the article, his application/name was never removed. The board refused to accept his withdrawal at the latest meeting.

This gets more confusing by the day.
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potts came out today and blasted chapman:
from the ap:
Do you have a link for the story?
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How do the Ralph and the Betty figure into our budget figures? From what I understand there was a one-time large payment of $2M on the Betty in the fiscal year ending June 30, 2005 which is the last year that figures are publically available. Doesn't the REA compex itself have a $10M dollar budget? THis isn't even calculcated into the budget from what I have read.
And if $2M were a one time payment on the Betty and UND ended up in the black (according to the aff maligned OPE data) wouldn't that mean that there was a lot more black ink than what was thought or was there $2M in revenue allocated specifically for the Betty?
Does anyone know what the athletic budget is for 2006-2007. I see that Nano compares NDSU's final "projected" budget at the end of transition to UND's budget from 2004-2005.
NDSU's Final Budget at the End of the Transition : $10 million/yearUND's Current ( Real - Minus that ONE time $3,000,000 item ) Budget : $7 million/year
As always, none of us have all the information for any of these comparisons.
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Exactly.
Hypotheticals are fun, but there is too much uncertainty imo.
A year ago who would have guessed that Chicago State and Valparaiso would leave the Mid-Con leaving a place for IPFW (who had been repeatedly rejected) and NDSU and SDSU (geographic orphans) in a prime position to gain conference membership.
The only reason I'm raining on your parade, GeauxSioux, is because you chose to hold it in Seattle in February.
That is why I moved from Seattle to Florida. Miserable and depressing.
I see SDSU moving to the Mid-Con. I'm still questioning whether NDSU will go. Once again, call me stupid, but I still see the Big Sky calling NDSU in the next few months. Regardless, the conference situation for NDSU should be resolved by the end of this year.
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I disagree with the premise of your hypothetical: the Big Sky is quite stable.
They have 8 core members (meaning they could lose 2 and be fine), in five years they will have 9.
Accepting your premise, you mention that adding the Dakota schools would add stability to pre-empt a move by some members, I think that is ridiculous.
We shall see.
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Your posts sound as if you think that I'm bordering on lunacy. The end of my post was a throw away.

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So you think it is logical to give schools on the cusp of leaving the conference another significant reason for doing so, even though the 'replacement' schools would be of no value for almost a decade? I certainly don't.
Hence my questions:
How would that affect the auto-bid for the Big Sky? How long would it take insofar as the "core school" portioin of the equation?So you think it is logical to give schools on the cusp of leaving the conference another significant reason for doing so, even though the 'replacement' schools would be of no value for almost a decade?Does this sound like stability?
My original post started out that I had questions regarding auto-bid and "core" schools regarding the BSC. Do you have any information on how each of these would impact the Big Sky or do you want to drop the facade and just call me stupid?

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What sense would that make? You think the BSC would essentially trade exisiting members for new ones?
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That adds stability?
As much as fans like to dream up scenarios, this one makes no sense (you are one of many of have entertained it, geauxsious).
I was playing off the posts by both sicatoka and wyobisonman stating that the west coast big city schools would bolt for a conference that is a better fit.
Schools like Sac and PSU will never be the stability for that conference.As soon as SacSt, PortSt, or UBC for that matter could find a conference that fits that I'm sure they'd bolt.And yes, I think that the Dakota schools would offer better stability to a conference. How long were all of them in the NCC? Was it 1926 that it started? That is pretty stable. How many conferences in the country have had that kind of stability?
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Questions for anyone who may know.
If a majority of the presidents did decide that they wanted some stability for the future and voted all 4 of the Dakota schools in, who would bolt the conference? How would that affect the auto-bid for the Big Sky? How long would it take insofar as the "core school" portioin of the equation?
I doubt that the 4 school scenario would happen all at once. It would need to be done incrementally.
From past experience the Big Sky has always said that geography was the biggest stumbling block to the Dakotas, but if they had an attractive arrangement I would think that could overcome the geography problem. Perhaps taking NDSU and SDSU wasn't attractive enough to overtake geography. Perhaps a UND/NDSU or USD/SDSU would be due to the natural rivalries.
I know much more about the UND/NDSU than the USD/SDSU. I would think that a conference would love to have what the North Dakota combo has to offer. The schools are less than 80 miles apart, nearly the same size and very competitive with each other.
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I don't think anyone is "disappointed" with the MidCon. With the current make up of the MidCon NDSU will have a very real shot at going to the Big Dance in our first year of elgibility and that is fantastic. Yes, most of us did prefer the Big Sky, but after all the jacking around and delays, the MidCon is a good alternative. I also would agree that the Big Sky would provide more peer institutions and great gates with the Montana Schools, but we can still be playing them in OOC competition.
All in all I think most NDSU fans are happy with a MidCon invite and having a realistic shot at the Big Dance in year one.
Also to think that UND is a cinch for the Sky shows how foolish and out of touch with reality some UND fans are. To think that is not even credible.
I think if you had asked any Bison fan 1 year or even 6 months ago what they thought of the Mid-Con you would have had a much different answer than you have today. It may be that they just "warmed up" to the idea of being in the Mid-Con, but I would guess that most would still rather be in the Mid-Con. Good luck with your upcoming campus visits from the Mid-Con people.
I don't recall any UND poster saying that a BSC invitation is a "cinch". Star2City seems to have done the most research on the Big Sky and even some of his posts have been tempered with "hope". As for me, I too am just hopeful that it is possible in the near future, as I think the BSC is the best fit for UND.
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The gang that couldn't shoot straight.
Late Friday, Potts said no one had spoken to him about continuing on as chancellor after Tuesday.The search committee, of which Paulsen was chairman, had suggested hiring an interim chancellor for 17 months to 24 months. However, at a board meeting Thursday, members voted 5-3 to reject the longer term, favoring arguments by board member Bruce Christianson that the job should be filled by July 2007.
Vickers said he spoke to Paulsen about the debate Friday, and described him as frustrated by its outcome.
"It's obvious that there are differing opinions among the board members regarding the interim position, the length of the position, and the responsibilities," Vickers said. "Clearly, this is a board perogative, so they will, I'm sure, work that out."
Paulsen, asked if he agreed with the description, said, "I voted against the proposal to shorten the term. I think that speaks for itself."
It seems to me that Paulson wants Potts gone Now and doesn't want to wait for until July 2007.
http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/20...tate/118458.txt
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I saw this in the Bismarck Tribune.
Potts' agreement says he must remain as chancellor until an interim successor is hired but also allows him to take another full-time job at any time until his contract ends on June 30, 2007.As it stands Potts will remain the chancellor.
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You are correct. There is no comparison between NDSU's football championships to the amount of worldwide publicity and recognition UND receives for its hockey program and championships.
If we were talking about a big time BCS type football championship with a huge national audience and the capture all of media outlets around the globe, you may have a point, but Division II or even I-AA championships don't enjoy that kind of attention.
By the way, I know you think that the comparison between your new logo and the Cowardly Lion from the Wizard of Oz is being overdone, but I still laugh everytime I see it. It's almost as if the Cowardly Lion was morphed into the logo. You may have some copyright problems with that.

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From what I have heard it was a typo. It should have been $300,000.
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As a overall dii sport dept. NDSU was better than UND. ie all the nc in most of the dii sports and before leaving the NCC capturing the all NCC sports championship.

Yes overall NDSU has more national championships than UND, but you will have to agree that most of those are in low profile, non-revenue sports. I am not trying to slight the championships or the athletes that earned them, just an observation that they are not something that give you high profile as an athletic department to the fan/supporter. The revenue sports is where UND was shining more brightly than NDSU and therefore leaving NDSU in a shadow.
I know that you Bison fans don't like hearing it, but UND has 7 NCAA DIVISION I NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. That leaves a huge shadow for someone else.
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To attempt to say Kuppy thought this thing out is BS. Kuppy made a stupid decision because he is not a visionary. The fans and alumni forced the move after seeing the success of NDSU. Kuppy has done little for UND.....I am surprised you guys try to defend him. The best admin guy at UND right now is your AD.....he really seems to have it together.
To say that Kupchella is not a visionary is inaccurate. His visions tend to be more academic than athletic, but he does have a vision for the University.
He had also gone through a similar classification transition in Missouri and learned how painful they can be. You couple that together with the list that Star2CIty enumerated and he felt that it wasn't the right time. To say that he didn't think about it is being disingenuous.
I think that UND was comfortable with where they were. We had a good solid D2 conference. The hockey team plays and excels in the best conference in the country. Why not be somewhat comfortable.
I also believe that NDSU moved to get out from UND's shadow. Football is THE sport at NDSU and you were losing that battle to UND for the better part of 10 years and something had to be done.
I do agree that Buning is doing a great job, but I think Kupchella is as well.
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GF Herald story on Schmidt.
On Wednesday, Schmidt officially returned to college football as he was named the outside linebackers coach and director of football operations for the Sioux. He replaces former Sioux assistant Josh Kotelnicki, who left to become the defensive coordinator at Truman State in Missouri.http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/sports/15131743.htm
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I looked at the site on the link. It has Sioux the spelling correct but it shows a helmet with NDSU and a bison logo.
The title banner on the top of the page spells Sioux "Souix".
Is that offensive or abusive?
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Why would that be bad?
Florida and Florida State are in two different. Each have great conference rivals and an awesome non-conference game (spelled: gate revenues) each year automatically in the schedule.
Iowa and Iowa State,
Colorado and CSU,
Utah and Utah State,
UNM and NMSU ....
Clemson and South Carolina
Georgia and Georgia Tech are a couple of more that come to mind.
Last game played in the year and big $$$ event.
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This is really a story about what Jones has been doing so far, but it does touch on scheduling as well.
UND already has received calls from Division I coaches about possible games when the Sioux begin their transition to Division I. "But we still want a schedule that gives us a chance to win," Jones said.http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/sports/15122941.htm
Fullerton Still Talking Big Sky Expansion
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I think Kupchella would have a very tough time to say we are going to stay DII. I do believe that that there are a few Bison fans, not saying that you are one of them, that don't want UND to be Division I.