GeauxSioux
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If NDSU gets into the Mid-Con they will stay put.
I disagree that NDSU would stay put in the Mid-Con if they were invited to the Big Sky. I think they would jump.
The reason Fullerton is spouting off is he knows that the BSC will never come east.If he knows that they will never come east, why say anything at all. He would gain nothing by saying it.
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Still hold firm on October prediction: UND, NDSU, and DU get invited for campus visits. BSC gets the UND/NDSU combo in 2008-9. MidCon gets the SDSU/USD combo in 2008-9.
I'm hoping that you're right. I don't know NDSU is going to handle their MidCon invite, as I think it is coming. They would need something concrete from the BSC to turn down an invitation from the MidCon.
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Geauxsioux,
Univ of MT's stadium is an outside stadium and it is a lot easier to expand its seating, they will have a really hard time expanding the seating in the AL but I am all for it. Hell, I wish we would play outside again but that will never happen.
The new gopher stadium they just passed is being built to seat 50k but they say by the time it is built it will end up closer to 80k. They used the 50k to get it passed and then plan to add on to it right away.
You're right that indoor is much more difficult to expand. I believe that is why Sicatoka said some "creative engineering" may be required. My point is you need to start somewhere. Hopefully there was some mindset during design that expansion could happen in the years to come.
As for playing outside, I think you would see the attendance fall back down. When I lived in GF I never missed a game, no matter what the weather, but back in the 80's and 90's attendance was a far cry from where it is now. I went to the Potato Bowl last year and it was great to be indoors. The crowd was great, the atmosphere, the noise. I don't remember Memorial rocking like that for a many years (with the exception of the Bison games), even when we had good teams.
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That's just it though, why does there have to be some "creative engineering" to add more seats if needed? Why the hell couldn't they have built it to seat more people in the first place? I know why...........they (city) mainly wanted their convention center. They had proposed the convention center numerous times before the Alerus Center and it was voted down big time, then they added the arena and and it was voted in finally. It wasn't long after that that Hal Gersman proposed cutting down on the size/seating to save money (shows how important the arena and it's size was to the city) but that didn't fly.
I wasn't living in GF when the Events Center was finally approved by the voters, so I don't know the details of arena vs convention center. That being said, aren't stadiums always being expanded? Use the University of Montana as an example. Their stadium was built in 1985, expanded in 1995, again in 2002 and 2003. From what I've heard there is another expansion planned. Why didn't the Univ. of Montana just build a stadium for 30,000 to begin with? You have to start somewhere and grow.
It sounds like at that time, 13,500 was all that could be afforded. They are now investigating options for additional seating. Maybe they will find a way to make it grow.
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How do you know that seating still won't be an issue in the future?
Even at NDSU some people are thinking that 18k isn't going to be enough when NDSU starts hosting I-AA playoff games.
I'm sorry, but this if far too easy. I could navagate an aircraft carrier through that opening.
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Opps! "issue" not "issur" and "interesting" not "intersting" Guess I should proof read before sending.
Why, nobdody esle deos
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Just send me a Publisher's Clearing House check and we're good.
How about I get you on Star Search instead?
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The 15,000 seat requirement is for DI-A, not DI-AA, which is where UND is headed in football. Somone please correct me if I'm wrong.
You are correct sir.
Sorry the Ed McMahon came out in me.
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Yep, just keep it coming... free shots at Nano everyone... on the house...
You have to admin Nano, there is some resemblance between the two.
Kudos to PCM for the comparison.
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I know I can't win, but I try.
I come here to post about issues of interest to me; I don't see the need to talk about me personally.
Sorry.
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Sioux-cia
Thanks for the ad hominem on D-I, very impressive.
With respect to my challenge, I'll take your word on it. I'm glad to know you aren't hiding and I'm sure you are just as classy in person.
I also deduced that your entire argument relies on your interpretations and assumptions that could very surely be wrong, primarily that the AG's office didn't mischaracterize Chapman's 'demands'. And there is no way that you could know the truth, Sioux-cia!
Instead, you assume that Chapman "lied" when it could just as surely have been an error (deliberate or not) on behalf of the AG's office. You then begin spouting off terms like dirt bag and bald faced liar. One would have to wonder why an objective person would do so?
Additionally, there is no reason for Chapman to have "lied" to the AG's office, how would he benefit?
And he certainly hasn't benefited by contacting the press in aims to clearing up the information.
Thinks are certainly fishy, but to assume you know the truth, which you to do, and then disparage someones character based on your assumption lets everyone know where you stand. But feel free to share your position with the world.
Boy, you can't win. You get blasted at Bisonville for saying that Chapman was wrong
There are no secrets there in either the law or the actions of Chapman which violated it.and get ripped here. I remember that you moved back from Iowa to North Dakota about two years ago. Do I also remember correctly that you work for NDSU?
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Yup. And in the longer run that'll be worse, not better, for all.
Agreed.
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One could infer that the lack of support of Potts, the position of Chancellor, and the absence of any formal reprimand was in fact a referendum in support or President Chapman and his actions.
If that is the case, say goodbye to the SBoHE and NDUS.
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Why would Chapman be the fall guy?
He is completely out of line doing it, but no one is stopping him and many (the SBOHE and the governor) seem to support him.
"Seem to support". If the defecation hits the rotary oscillator, they will all be ducking for cover. That is when someone (Chapman?) will be targeted. He will be the most visible in this mess, as you demonstrated in your post and will have the biggest target on his backside.
Maybe you're right and they will all back each other up, but I know how politics can go and alliances deteriorate. Maybe not in North Dakota, but it sure happens elsewhere. I know Louisiana is a whole different animal from North Dakota and this mess quite obviously doesn't compare to Katrina. but look what happened there. Longtime friendships and alliances were broken. Escambia County, Florida where I live always seems to have some political intrigue going on from the school board to the sheriffs office to the county commissioners and you neve know who is going to cut who off or side with the opposition.
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Why would it be the undoing of Chapman?
Chapman's actions began in 2005 during the legislative session. Everyone in the know knew he was there and the SBOHE chose not to reprimand him.
They picked Chapman over Potts when all the latter was trying to do was his job.
If anything the SBOHE is a co-conspirator.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the light shines very brightly on any of them, but if this "course of conduct" can be demonstrated and proven, Chapman may be the fall guy.
Iowa you seem to have pretty good pulse on what is going on in the SBoHE, so I trust what you when you say everyone knew, but that does not excuse any of them.
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Chapman at Work
Potts wrote in the letter that NDSU President Joe Chapman was, in his words, "actively engaging in a course of conduct designed to undermine the effectiveness, if not the very existence of the university system."
I believe we will see the trickle of information continue. If what Potts says is true, it could be the undoing of Chapman. The big question is does he have anything to substantiate or corroborate this or is this just what he felt was happening.
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This is like beating a dead horse but one more time Here's what I said...
"Please tell me what Potts has done during his tenure that even remotely approaches what Dr. Chapman has done not only for NDSU but for ND. I will be anxiously awaiting this reply as it hasn't been printed anywhere else. For a guy (Potts) that hasn't done anything but squander state money he's being defended vigourously by many at UND. That little fact alone speaks volumes about who feels threatened by Dr. Chapman."
As you can see I not only said NDSU but I also said ND. You are not able to come up with anything and you have proved my point.
Is this the appropriate place to use a "vaht"? I hope so, because it sure fits.
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Sorry, I was on vacation the last time this was "discussed".
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Actually I think he was talking about the music scence.
We got both types ya know, Country and Western.
I love the Blue Brothers. Good old Bob's Country Bunker.
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If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck its still a duck.
You're missing the point. Go back to your original post asking what Potts has done for NDSU. Chapman complained to Potts about UND opening up a campus in Fargo. Potts shut down the "campus". Potts did something for NDSU.
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It was supposed to have been shutdown but is still operating.
You are correct that there is still a presence, but it is not the campus that was opened in 2004. It is called UND Fargo Outreach.
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Please tell me what Potts has done during his tenure that even remotely approaches what Dr. Chapman has done not only for NDSU but for ND. I will be anxiously awaiting this reply as it hasn't been printed anywhere else. For a guy (Potts) that hasn't done anything but squander state money he's being defended vigourously by many at UND. That little fact alone speaks volumes about who feels threatened by Dr. Chapman.
To the glee of many at NDSU, didn't Potts shut down UND Fargo? Wasn't this because Chapman complained vociferously to Potts? Didn't Potts also end UND's telemedicine program? Also because Chapman was complaining to Potts? Sounds like Potts has done a lot for NDSU and not much for UND.
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Your jealously of Dr. Chapman is profound. The big problem is UND and what they and their supportors will do to keep the funding of NDUS the same. Protecting their own turf at the expense of the rest of the NDUS is all gf and UND are after, not the betterment of the NDUS.
So, through all that has gone on the past few months with Potts, Chapman, the SBoHE and the governor, the only thing that you can come up with is that UND is jealous of Chapman. Amazing.
Fullerton Still Talking Big Sky Expansion
in NCAA News
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It makes sense in I-A, but I agree that it doesn't in I-AA unless I-AA goes away from the playoff system. Which I think most would agree isn't going to happen anytime soon.
I'm trying to understand why it seems many Bison fans on SS.com are saying that NDSU wouldn't jump to the Big Sky if offered. I would think that the alumni base ($$$) would be more inclined to give if NDSU was Big Sky rather than Mid-Con. I'm assuming that NDSU has a sizable alumni population in Denver and the western states, more so than in Mid-Con land. Big Sky makes more finanacial sense if given a choice.