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I thought last night the game got away from us and i don't know why it did but it did. I think our women put too much pressure on themselves and everyone was trying to do too much. This has been building for some time with Leet with calls she hasn't like on defense and i hope this has gotten it out of her system. I have noticed the referee calls and way the games have been called are different when we get to WSI and KC both in women's and men's game lately i don't know but i guess it from different set of referees that are being used. The bottom line is we got to adapt figure how to play with the calls. The other thing why have Mccarthy and Anderson not seen a little more playing time in the conference schedule. Mccarthy showed last night she can play spot roll to help keep our front line people rested and giving us more depth on the front line. This i what i have noticed about SDSU they do play their talented freshman more than we do getting them experience and getting to know what they need to work on to gain playing time. This also cuts down fatigue and injuries to our starters durning long season. I was encouraged by Mccarthy play last night and future for us now this season and next season. I hope with our new recruits coming in they don't have sit on bench a year before we will consider playing them because if were going to make a run next year were going need to our present core of players to make run at conference championship.

How come UND is using Bally sports for the basketball games? I thought we had agreement with Midco sports. This is especially frustrating in that Bally isn't on espn+ and now if i want to watch the game i have pay for another service to watch the game and last time i did this for women's game the feed was terrible for me with pausing frequently durning the game. This is extremely frustrating why can't the Summit get its act together like the Big Sky has and have all their teams on one platform to watch the games. I can't be only one frustrated with this and to me it means poor management of this conference letting everyone go their separate directions how do promote and get people to follow your conference when you either see some of the games or spend a fortune to access these games.

I am not totally sure on this so i may not be totally accurate but the present team roster sits at sixteen players and i believe they have 14 scholarship players with one free scholarship left open. Erica Lane and Carlee Sieben are walk-on players so they don't take up roster scholarship positions. We had four seniors on the squad this year in Leet, Wallace, Orth, and Danniger all scholarship players. These scholarship players are scholarships they offered to the four new recruits coming in. Now if Orth and Danniger as it stands return now we would have one scholarship available for one of them and for other would have to be walk-on. We also don't know who is all returning for next year so there might be other changes also coming on scholarships but this won't be known till after the season. I have been looking and i found no rule on how many can be on the roster as walk-ons but there may be limit like there is on men's side in basketball. If i am wrong on this i will gladly be corrected but looking at information i have found this what i think is correct.

Brady fouling out hurt on those last free throws shot and missed we needed his rebouding ability and his maturity on the floor. I thought he got hosed on number of those fouls today how are you going defend when big just shoulder buts you all the way to basket. That is why they put semi circle to protect bigs down low but if your not going to call it like that they didn't need to put in semi circle. I watched WSI other night with SU and same thing looked like football game and to me that is not basketball. I thought this was poorly called game big could cross block somebody but alot of calls on the shot players had ball and hand which is part of the ball. The loss Howard slot not being on the team has hurt when we are redshirting 3 players and have Sueker who was one of our three big, hurt has limited us. I think alot of you forget that this still very young team on floor especially today at the end we had Bruns Freshman, T and Norman Sophomores from JUCCo, Panoam and Igbangu seniors but only been playing about year mostly sitting on the bench prior 3 years and WSI was mostly senior lead team. Even with all things happen today we were basically one play from winning this game either controlling rebound or hitting the last shot and should i also say just hitting our normal percentage of free throws would have won the game. Were 2 /12 team in conference but nobody has embarrassed on the floor much and i still think were getting better but problem is we need to win couple of more games if we want to make the tournament.

It may not be logical but having Senior day or in high school parents night i have seen where teams get upset so often. Second WSI would have been hard to beat today with the way they shot the basketball and some of it was defense but alot was not. There team percentage for year is 34% and to shoot nearly 50% is quite a bit over average and on top of that they made 7 more three's than their average. They also had 3 point shots from seven players and 6 had two or more 3 point shots so this was not couple of players but whole team shooting above average from 3 point land. Then you add in we did not have exceptional day of shooting and we missed alot of close shots or layups today. The third thing Orth having poor day but with her under the weather with flu they reported and we don't know how many others may have been effected to with this and sure effected her shooting and time on the floor and not having her scoring was difference in the game.. Also the officiating today sure wasn't consistent and they made couple of calls i haven't seen called all season like the 5 second call on Lane . The officiating didn't help but it wasn't why we lost but it played into how the game was played. It was bad loss but they need put it past them and have now good road trip next week. WSI is streaky team and we happened to catch them where they put streak together for whole game.

Yes, this is big game and always difficult on senior day to get win. We will need to play very good defense today and post players need to stay out foul trouble. This is not team to take lightly because if they get on roll they can bury you with their outside shooting. I hope to get a win today and then hope that KC gets beat ORU putting us in tie to set up big next week with above two teams. But first we need to get win today.

I get such a kick out of so many fans here on the board can't let getting jab in on Jones. I don't know all the reasons but some of it has to do with style of basketball he wanted to play and second is Jones recruited some high end talent but in doing so the offense alot of time was centered around that talent even when it was not most smart basketball but it was price to pay for having stars on your team. This made games frustrating at times because watching this talent you thought they should be better than they were. Now Sather promotes more of team concept to getting production but level of talent is not there that Jones had but Sather gets them to play hard and fan gets involved with them hoping they will win. The thing i would like to know why some alumni had such hatred for Jones was it because he was not part of club or did he have way offending them. I just find it all very interesting and it may be something else but Jones for being gone for 3 years still brings out daggers with many on this board. He was hired here at division II era and team had fallen from conference power to be just average and then he had to take through division I transfer and our closest sisters schools would not schedule them. Even then we came out of that where he was winning Great West conference and getting to play some post season basketball. Then we went to Big Sky where after being there 3 years he was conference champ and made NCAA appearance. Then we had beginning of transfer rules changes where we lost a key player setting us back to winning another conference championship. He then finally had challenge of switching conferences and again building team that could compete in the Summit. Along with this i do believe he had poor last year recruitment class and i wonder if this was reason he looked to move or that he saw he wasn't putting in effort he had in past because of family commitments we will never know on this. Also not to mention he did this being one lowest paid coaches in division i and probably with with his assistants to help him. I believe he had about same pay structure when he left as assistant. The program wasn't totally broken because Sather was able to go to conference championship following year and Sather first year recruits were not outstanding with talent either. I think Sather is going to be very good coach once he is able to recruit and retain some of his talent. I just think that UND has over my lifetime had some very good coaches and I even think that of Jones and Sather.

I think he is doing hockey on national outlet as well as his midco announcing.

I believe as it stands now they have fourteen scholarships filled now for next year and that's assuming that Sieben, Erica Lane remain walk on for next year. I also thought we had some offers to other recruits but i assume that can change if need be. If any of seniors do want to continue it would be as walk on with exception of this remaining scholarship. I would like to see both Orth and Daninger comeback this would give time for the new recruits establish themselves next year and give us added depth and experience. We have a such a gap with the sophomore class where we only have Dj Davis in sophomore class but i assume they are going to try to retain some of the junior class in 2023-2024 year then we would have balanced out the years again with 4 in class each year. They will have alot to consider in next year on roster formations.

I have been thinking how with NCAA giving extra year of eligibility for all players has changed make up the summit conference for women's basketball. I look at the two powers of the conference South Dakota and SDSU there teams would be different for sure and there records i think would be quite different. The first is Coyotes they would have lost the big three and the team would have been quite different loosing all that talent and experience. My guess would be they would still be good team but much like alot of teams in the Summit and there record would not be what is now. Second the Jacks would still be power this year but not quite as deep as they are now. The early going would have been difficult for them without Irwen filling and giving depth for a injured Selland. This alone would have changed their record for the season and early part of the Summit conference. The second part to the equation would be that core to this deep Jackrabbit team would be graduating this spring not looking at another year with total group. Then we come to next three in conference KC, UND, ORU, and NDSU these teams decided either bring back a fifth year player or bring in 5 year player to give them needed player where they were lacking depth mostly they looked for this in the post position. They may have done that with transfer or jucco player but these players have made impacts. But getting back to extra players because of eligibility the conference play i believe has been stronger this year but has made it possible for the South Dakota keep their dominance over the rest of the conference. The question then comes how does this effect the conference going forward and how do team manage their roster going forward. I think for the other eight in the conference what they have done will have little effect because adding one player for a year seems to me can be overcome and have little effect going out future year. The Coyotes on other hand is going to put a gap in their roster at some point unless they choose to go transfer route or Jucco route to fill gaps in their squad or they will be playing younger squad in the future. Jacks look to have managed to keep fairly balanced rotation even keeping these players on and this has been done by using redshirt season. This you have to credit Johnson by keeping players even when they have been redshirted and not transferring while waiting chance to play especially at midmajor. I think the next couple of seasons are going to be fun to watch and experience because i think were not going to see the gap there has been between the top two and rest of the conference. I also believe if our recruits live up to their potential and rest girls continue develop as planned UND should have good opportunity to be playing in the post season in next few years.

Yes i would like to know the reason we have so little student fans at the basketball games today has college changed that much over years. When i was in college we looked forward to things to go to at college in middle of winter to get out of dorms or apartments and going to college game was free for college student. Usually there was chance to meet friends or acquaintances and now today you can get a beer if you can afford it. Usually we went as group to game as a social outing and following the game went somewhere else to socialize. Without the football team there aren't that many college students at the game considering university has 12000 students even if 10% showed up the betty with regular crowd would be close to full. Is it lack of university not promoting the games or something else in not bringing out a crowd to the Betty like parking, transportation, scheduling, or the cost to go to the game i am just asking because we should have much better attendance than we have been.

Western Illinois just missed beating KC it would have put us into third place tie with them. Looks like to have third place we will need to beat them at KC.

This was like watching NFL game where the team goes in prevent defense and then the team drives up field and scores easily to beat your team. Soon as Dosch said they needed to work the clock on possessions i had this bad feeling because that was communicated to the team from Sather and we went from attacking the basket to playing the clock. With this team when things are going right don't change how they are playing especially when were playing good basketball. This change brought back negative thoughts and effected their confidence and yes it may be smart play to control the time but not with this team they are terribly inexperienced and we just need to get couple of wins. Sometimes you can over coach a team and i thought tonight it wasn't time to teach this team to control the ball and run the clock out. What you didn't need was to give other team chance to start coming back on them and that is exactly what happened. This is first time i think Sather got out coached with x and o's and reason is this team is so young now on the floor and they have zero confidence in themselves because all season they have played hard but always come up short and he let that creep into their play. I am afraid the season is pretty much over and we will not be going to Sioux Falls next month. We will need to win 4 out 7 games and that is providing that Ohama doesn't win anymore games to end of the season and only positive we do play at home most of the games but for team that hasn't won since December i think its pretty much expecting miracle.

I did a look up Jaclyn Jarnot and she was having pretty good year with West Florida University she has been averaging 16.5 points a game and 12.5 rebounds a game. I think change of schools would be good for her and also playing down division hasn't hurt her statistics either. We could have used girl of her size this year to help match up with South Dakota schools. We had talent on the team last year but it just didn't play very well together and i also didn't fit well with what Bernhard was trying to get them to play. Second we had so many injuries and sicknesses last year the team could never gell and find their rolls as players. I expect next year we should have more options to match up with teams like South Dakota state but again its going to take time to figure out where everyone roles and what they are capable of. I too looked for information on Beal girl but didn't find any for this year other than she is not playing Detroit Edison academy public school but is now playing at Hamtramck public school a division I school instead of Division II school in Michigan. This would be same level Roach girl is playing at in Michigan for Hartland. Roach girl looks to having good year and was named player of week for their region. I think it will be exciting year next year and it will be fun to see how much we can continue improve.

We were in this game today until South Dakota was carried by Sjerven to get this win over us. We played pretty good defense on Lamb and Korngable they got their points but were close to season league averages. The defense we played on Sjerven wasn't terrible but she really stepped up hit the outside shot and probably if you had scouted her was where you wanted her to be shooting from. The minutes she was out the game South Dakota had hard time matching up to UND. This is very good starting 5 for South Dakota but they are vulnerable when they have to go deeper especially if they have to sit one of the three 5 year seniors. This is South Dakota year to make run in NCAA tournament and I believe they would be very good representative for the conference. I just think looking at two South Dakota schools right now i kinda believe Jacks can beat Coyotes because they are much deeper and they shooting at level even South Dakota will have hard time defending. I also got to believe neither one of these teams would want to have to face UND again this year even they know can beat them because were improving and on given night anything can happen and it always hard to beat a team three times in season. The future looks bright for Und next year if this team continues to improve and with good young talent coming and developing talent on the team i see we will be able to play with South Dakota. South Dakota State will continue to be tough with most of their team returning next year but i think we will be close to catching them especially with new talent coming in. The big question can we keep any of our players with extra years eligibility on the team in next few years.

I watched some of tonights game and i was wondering what SDSU would look like if they would have lost type of talent we lost in the past year. We lost Rebraca one top players in the Summit, Inhenaco the top rookie for the Summit last year, Simms juco player that could play both guard and need be front line, Suecker one big outside wing players that could score from outside or could do so on inside, and we have had several other players hurt this year. That is four starters off this team and some of the depth to this team. Then i was looking were getting pretty good play out some new players one with one year of jucco experience, and two first year freshmen and we have been close to winning some of these games. I don't think any team in the Summit could loose four starters off a team and even think about being in consideration contending for the Summit. The only one that would have chance would be South Dakota State the deepest team in the conference. Then you add in we have had almost two years of covid and new coach moving up a division it has been almost recipe for total disaster. The big question going forth is can we rebuild a team by starting with new young players and building up a team that can win conference championship or is that not possible if players want to go to transfer portal and we become farm team for more successful college programs. I hope that is not the case or else we will be left with constant new team every year and hard pressed to find top talent that want to come here and play. I am worried about this, and we may be on the wrong side of this in the future. The two South Dakota schools have in place good programs, so they have winning tradition so it easier for them to keep players on long term. Also the way Summit conference tournament is always played close to them giving basically home court advantage and big crowds helps their programs in retaining players and recruiting players. NDSU also has established program and good tradition, so they have advantage in keeping their talent and finally last is ORU where basketball is there main sport and they come from area rich in talent. But getting back to Sather i believe he can coach the x and o's and i think he has shown he can recruit good young talent i look at last two years in Inhenaco and Bruns they have been some best new talent in the Summit. The elephant in the room is can we keep this talent and add to it each year and if that is the case he will be successful coach in the Summit. Now we as fans have to have patience to let him build the program and winner and most people think it can be done over night and that is not the case. I look at Denver how many coaches have they gone through in past few years trying to get to a winner.

I think SDSU stuck a stake in our heart in beginning of the third quarter and game was over. I wish Bernhard would have put in the two freshman in the end of third and beginning of the fourth quarter to see how they would have matched up against South Dakota. Anderson and Mccarthy would have matched up in size and would have been quicker covering the perimeter. Also they would have gotten little playing time against South Dakota this year. I would expect them to get beat but it would be learning experience for them as well as us to see what it will take to match up with SDSU. Leet could play her soft outer perimeter defense tonight and still be effective but Lane trying to cover SDSU other big girls especially Selland was terrible mismatch for us. This is why i would have liked to see these other girls play a little because if were going to play with them i think its going to take us going 9 deep on the bench. The game pretty much ended when Kacie wasn't hitting anything and we have to give credit to SDSU i think they had her rushing her shot some because she didn't want it blocked and have turn over. I expect Kacie the next time they play will have adjusted and her offense will be there. Aaron Johnson likes to coach where he works on opposing teams minds and tonight he was putting that thought into our team with way he got his team come out and just bury us right away after the half and it worked because it just looked like we gave up then. The positive is this team was getting shots it wanted but we got lesson on how we played defense. The other down fall tonight was we need to work on our rebounding as a team concept especially when were playing defense we forgot to box out when we got beat on defense. SDSU is now shooting lights out but it would be interesting to see when they are not hitting 60% from 3 land how well they look offensively. I know they are good team but when your getting that kind of shooting from 5 players its almost impossible to shut down a team. It will be interesting to see what happens at tournament time in the past they have had one those games where they couldn't find there shooting.

You would think in these last four games just once we could come out on top. If you review the box scores essentially numbers come about even in most categories but were short on one thing and we loose by few points. This game came down to shooting percentage we shot 3% less than they did or two buckets (so if we hit one more two and one three would have tied the game), The other area was our turnovers where we spotted them 10 extra points but they we made most of that back with 9 extra free throws but with that if we would held turnovers down or shot couple percentage better we could have won the game. The effort is there but we just don't have that extra athleticism to get us over the hump. The good part is that were not getting blown out of the games but end record won't reflect that in the standings.

I was looking other night at coaching salaries i see that Craig Bohl was paid over 1.5 million dollars but when Vigen was his assistant coach he was paid $300,000. dollars way more than Bubba is making as head coach. He then went to Montana State where his contract there with incentives this hear will pay him way over the $300,000. so were definitely behind in pay structure. If were behind on pay structure i betting were way behind on lot of other things as well that makes difference in recruiting players but things like that are difference when we have been close to beating upper tier teams.

It would be nice to get more people out to the games especially with the effort girls have been putting forth. The difference this year i believe is they had normal off year, they have Borowicz and Lane healthy, Leet is having good year, and the additions of Daninger, Davis, and Hoskins have all contributed to the team. The final thing is they are playing as team and at both ends of the court now there playing defense and their offense has improved. I also see it in coaching of these girls and look how even the assistants are involved in the games now something we didn't see as much last year. We have three really difficult games still coming with KC and next weeks rematches with South Dakota schools. This is still fun because we have come long way since last year and were still improving as team.

The move to FBS level and also moving all your sports to next level i have hard time seeing where the benefit is for NDSU especially how most G5 conferences are half way across the nation for possible fits for NDSU. There is probably enough revenue to fund the football program and first few years there would be enough fan interest of playing at this different level. I still see problem in generating additional revenue to fund all other sports NDSU has now because the costs will go up for these sports as well when you jump a level and additional travel costs. Other costs is when jumping a level will be coaching costs, costs of bringing in teams for home games, and also additional overhead costs to administer these additional staffs and fund raising to keep athletic department funded. (Look what Craig Bohl is getting for salary at Wyoming as head coach is 1 million more than you are paying now.) I just think the fan support you have had from region will drop because reason for this growth in fan interest has been your playing for national championship. The casual fan can Identify with this and also the playoff system where you have had couple of home games that local television coverage across the whole state. Then add in championship game in Texas right after first of year it has become mini vacation to get away from the cold weather and the holidays were over. Now we get to small g5 conference and if you win it have record that is good enough to be invited to bowl game that will be played week before Christmas or couple of days after Christmas which could be played on Thursday, Friday, Monday, or Tuesday the number of fans going to the game is going to be diminished especially around Christmas. Also number people able to watch the game will be less because people will be working and season is busy with other activities. I guess as North Dakotan and specially non Bison fan i am not going to go out my way for bowl game where before i have watched because they represented state and region when they were playing in Frisco. I may be wrong but some where in my gut if this doesn't work out as tax payer of North Dakota i may have to come in cover the short fall or at least finance them until they can restructure athletic department. The bottom line I have number other reason but this getting too long already. I just think for the state, region, and all the colleges when we have all major universities in same conference in Dakota's and surrounding universities brings most fan interest for college sports. I have long ago realized we are not populated enough and will never have resources to compete in P5 conference and only way it will work if most universities want to play up level to g5 we will need to form our own conference to do so.

Why would you say that? I have to believe she has to like the position she is on this team as leader and style of play they are playing suits her game. Then add in there beginning to win. I know there was something happen in her not starting but i would find that hard to believe she would want to transfer only that. I may be wrong on this but going else where i would believe be bad move on her part and i think she has opportunity to play in big dance before her career is over here at North Dakota.

I too was skeptical of Bernhard in that i thought she had the ability but i didn't think she had enough head coaching experience but she has proven me wrong which i very happy that i was. The program is headed in right direction and if recruits that she has recruited live up to expectations UND could become a factor in next year so of the conference. South Dakota team with 3 five year players returning this year and their history of being good team i believe will be nearly impossible to upset this year. South Dakota state is also very good team year but i do feel given right night we could be able to beat them. Their team has very deep line up but difference this year is Selland is playing hurt and is not the player she was last year. The rest teams now in Summit conference i believe if we play our game we can defeat. This is quite turn around from last year where we struggled to just win a game or two in the Summit.

I stated it before only logical fit for FBS conference would be if Montana, Montana State, North Dakota State, Und, SDSU, USD, Northern Iowa, Idaho state, Eastern Washington, Idaho, and utah and Northern Colorado formed a conference. Even with the names listed above i don't know how many would want to move up but this would have foot print that would make sense it would limit distant travel and if enough would join you could have east/west spliit in the conference to also limit travel and costs . If it was marketed right getting right media company that wanted to provide sports tv to the states in this conference there could be some television money. Also most national markets wouldn't want to regionalize a market to small market states that this conference would be in so if was done right conference and tv provider would need to be almost partners in developing and marketing this conference to this region of the country. The big time p5 schools are basically doing this now national level and i don't see their numbers increasing because adding more schools just dilutes amount of money being shared when adding more schools. If anything we could see a drop in p5 schools because they don't improve the revenue shared to pot because of tv viewership and other media revenue they can generate for other p5 schools. This sounds like were getting away from basic of college sports but this has been happening in last 20 years and unless their is political change i just see this continuing down this path. We have done this on national scale and next step is for local media company working with smaller college conferences selling this on regional basis as subscription to watch their favorite teams. But until this happens i don't see where NDSU or most of FCS schools and small mid major schools will be moving even to G5 conference because most of these conferences are near what they want for membership. These changes could happen quite quickly or may never happen depending how much change smaller division I schools are willing to accept and if there are smaller local media companies willing to grow and put media business company together sell conference on regional basis. I think this may happen but until somebody does it and makes it successful it won't become the thing to do.

We only loose Leet for next year and Lane returns next year. I hope that Vanderwal can replace Leet next year but we won't know until then with them trying to redshirt her this year. They have been playing 8 girls lately with varying degree of times depending on teams they are playing and foul trouble they have been in. Today they played percentages by slowing down the possessions in the fourth quarter but it also got them out their rhythm offensively and depleted their lead. It worked but i have seen where this can lead to disaster and it takes very good teams to execute this style of play. If they can get sweep next weekend UND going through first half of conference season would have secured the third place in conference standings.