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  1. Here is the list of nickname trait requirements:

    • Representative of state/region 
    • Honor past/look to future 
    • Promote pride, strength, fierceness, passion 
    • Sense of community/connectedness 
    • Intimidation to competitors
    • Unique, recognizable, distinctly UND
    • Formidable/fierce 
    • Inspiring, unforgettable 
    • Beautiful/classy 

    When the initial cut was made to 63 and forwarded on to the committee, every one of those 63 names should have been rated based on the criteria listed above. The committee failed to hold to the very standards they came up with.  Had they actually followed their own criteria, the names that were eventually narrowed down to vote on would be most likely met with more of a positive response.  

     

    It's just one in a long line of red flags.

  2. As far as UND choosing to choose the Internet as the only way to vote:

    According to the PEW Research center 41% of those age 65 or old do not use the internet at all, 53% do not have broadband access at home, and 23% do not use cell phones.

    Seem like someone inside should have thought about an equitable voting system - and no expecting everyone to have Internet access should not be assumed. 

     

     

    And that's not the only reason why online voting is a joke.

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    If it was the students, good for them! They are the most important stakeholders in this anyway...

    Absolutely right.  If we are talking about the future, there is no denying this.  Students of today are the stakeholders of tomorrow, and they have more years ahead of them to donate than you or I do.  It is very simple math.

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  4. Those who don't participate in the process thereby give up their right to complain about the results of the process.

    To me the results are incidental.  The complaining is directed instead at the process.

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  5. NDSU had three of their top players sitting out.  Including their top player, Holly Johnson, who outplayed Evers in last years UND game.  When she is able to play they will improve greatly.  Like if UND were to lose Mia Lloyd.

    Evers in that game had 15 points, 13 rebounds and a career high 7 blocks.  To my memory easily one of her finest performances.

  6. I know that in my world, if all of those "sioux" references didn't exist, I wouldn't know a damn thing about what a "sioux" was.

    You say eliminating NA nicknames pushes NA culture off the map, but you are only speaking of your own personal map.

    Besides, does it seem to you like the tribes are interested in such publicity?  (Hint:  We failed to get their support to keep "honoring" them.)

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  7. I guess if people want to forget about the Native American culture all together, they are going in the right direction.

    Removal of Native American mascots isn't really about wanting to forget about Native Americans.  It's much more about wanting to forget about our own racism towards Native Americans.

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  8. I don't get how people can be so attached to an old logo that they are already questioning their acceptance of the new one, and it hasn't even been designed yet.

    If it's UND's logo, I am wearing it.  

    For the record, I have very little attachment to the Sioux imagery, in fact as of this moment I own none.

  9. .....and I am in the large majority on this.

    I don't know who will buy what but it is easy to believe this part ^.  If we lump together those who wish to be Sioux and those who wish to stay North Dakota , that does seem like it would easily be a majority group.

  10. Of course it will come down to the logos  they go with.

    Which is why this conversation about predicted merch sales is useless while we have no idea what they will create.  Who here would prepay right now for a NoDak, RR or Hawk jersey before seeing the design?

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