cberkas
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30 minutes ago, SiouxSherm94 said:
Why do we have any reason to believe WMU and Miami want out right now?
There is none.
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4 minutes ago, planet2county said:
Some of the teams at this year’s A.C.H.A. tournament believe that with the right financing, facilities and support, they could join Penn State at hockey’s highest level. But, as Battista acknowledged, “there aren’t a lot of Terry Pegulas out there.”I wouldn't get to excited about Colorado. I haven't seen any news articles from Colorado papers regarding impending move. I can go back and produce articles regarding Iowa St., Rhode Island, and Navy looking to going NCAA. Battista at Penn State was trying to get a NCAA program going since the 70's. Murdoch at Iowa State was looking to go D1 about as long.
This is similar to Wichita St to AAC. I have seen nothing in the Cincy paper about a move or on the AAC blog at ESPN. The sources mentioned in the blog were probably a couple assistant basketball coaches sitting by the pool drinking a beer and speculating how the conference could increase its RPI.
I don't know where the Rutgers hockey GM came up with Colorado looking to move up.
Once there is a mention of a ACHA team looking to move up to NCAA hockey, Rutgers is there to talk about how they are looking to move up.
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I just saw the most ridiculous elbowing penalty. Crosby gets hit in the face with Dumolin's stick and Hartnell gets a penalty for elbowing Crosby, all while Dumolin has Hartnell pined to the boards.
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2 hours ago, Cratter said:
Idaho thinks they are trying out for the Mountain West right now.
I am surprised that Idaho has only had 4 years ever that they were good at football. I'm hoping that Idaho get beaten badly when they join the Big Sky just to prove that they never belonged in the FBS.
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4 hours ago, TNF said:
"Spread 'Em" was my first thought as in "Spread Your Wings" but I fully understand why that would be considered unacceptable in all cases.
In all seriousness, I don't want to derail the thread or the goal of the campaign but we already have an unoriginal name so copying every other school (including NDSU) with one of the first campaigns was a little disheartening to me.
When people say "roll tribe" they are copying Alabama's "roll tide".
6 hours ago, SiouxFanatic said:I like to facetiously do "Talons Up" while holding up three fingers on each hand then do a downward motion. Swoop in there, hawks!
So like ASU's forks up hand sign?
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The CCHA is not coming back, and if it did Miami (a founding member of the NCHC) and Western Michigan (who begged to be in the NCHC) are not leaving for this Hypothetical CCHA.
Now if CBS Sports had any say in how the NCHC adds or if a team pay the buyout. Arizona State would have been added, well Arizona State wasn't added no matter if CBS wanted them in the NCHC or not.
The NCHC has a upper hand on who they will or will not add to the conference. ASU applied to only the NCHC and would have gotten into the WCHA if they wanted to. The NCHC will expand at some point in the East, West, Midwest, and South. Alabama, Missouri State, Iowa State, Cincinnati, Pitt, and Illinois State. If these schools for example wanted to go NCAA D1 they would be looking at the NCHC, and the NCHC wants to be the top conference that everyone wants to be in.
If the PAC12 started a hockey conference would the NCHC make those schools that join the NCHC pay the buyout? I think it depends, I could see the NCHC tell the PAC12 schools Haley only have to pay half but I could see them letting them walk away without a buyout and also making them pay the whole buyout.
Fenton is doing an excellent job as commissioner and the the conference presidents and AD's need to make sure he stays for a long time. The NCHC is in very good hands.
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14 minutes ago, jjensen said:
Britta Curl from Bismarck committed to Wisconsin. Hard to let the girls from North Dakota go other places to play.
Maybe a new better coach would keep them here.
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22 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:
Back to CU, I wonder if PAC 12 is suggesting that they do it. They and Arizona would have the ability to transition relatively quickly.
NCHC would be interested since they already have an arena and proximity to the HQ/two of the teams. Also, I would enjoy an excuse to visit Boulder.
For other schools in the PAC12 to add hockey Arizona State has to be successful. I'm not saying that will keep Colorado and Arizona from going D1, I think that it would keep the other PAC12 schools from joining.
I expect at some point the NCHC's foot print to be bigger, both east and west.
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5 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:
Utah is not a hockey state. The non-Mormons are generally there for outdoor recreation. Easy access to the some of the best skiing in the world in the cottonwood canyons. Ditto mountain biking. I can see the schools having the same student attendance issues DU has.
The Utah Grizzlies have been doing pretty good attendance wise, around 4,900.
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1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:
That's good to know about those arenas, agreed 5,000 is about perfect for most. And yeah the ASU entrance is not a blueprint I would use for many other schools.
You'd definitely have more students in attendance but how long will that take to happen? Boulder is limited on land available for development and it comes at a premium. Sure it's ideal to be on campus if you have $70-100 million from a donor, but seeing as how they probably don't I'd rather have a nice arena 10 miles away and start a program in 3 years. Then you can figure out on-campus options when the funding is available as opposed to waiting for the next Terry Pegula to show up excited about Buffs Hockey.
Plus, as you mentioned, the differences between a small 2,000 student private liberal college and a massive 35,000 university that loves their Buffs will be noticeable when it comes to attendance at games.
Utah also has a hockey arena next to campus, The Salt Lake City Sports Complex. Not sure on seating but has two Olympic ice sheets or the Utes club team.
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20 minutes ago, nodak651 said:
I fail to see how there is any problem at CC. They have a !@#$ team, yet consistently drawk 6-7 k plus fans. They are 4th in the country so far this year in attendance.
I kind of think that the location of 1st bank arena would be a positive, as the arena would be more accessible to Colorado alumni and the big population base of Denver. Not sure how many students would go to the games anyway. DU and CC draw well(ish), but students aren't really a huge factor.
Pic below is what BYU's arena looked like during the Olympics, before they took the stands out. Anyone aware if they built anything permenent where the stands used to be? It looks like there is a wall behind the player's benches now.
There is a wall behind the benchs but it doesn't look permanent. Looks like a wall goes part way up the a curtain the rest it the way, and a curtain I think on one end for pics I've seen. It is used for club hockey games for both BYU and UVU.
Utah State's arena seats around 3,000.
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31 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:
Good info, I don't think any of these options are walking distance(maybe TCC but that's even a stretch) for students but a few could still be good options with transportation.
Weber State's arena has a whole wall on one end of glass windows. Remove that and there is some more seating.
Peaks Ice Arena held 8,000 for the Olympics that seating was removed, so it could be put back in.
Zee Khan said that there would have to be something done to South Point Arena for hockey.
Arizona has gotten good crowds for games.
Really a good sized D1 arena should be around 5,000.
The one school that gets to be annoying about going NCAA D1 is Rutgers, the moment someone mentions UNLV or Alabama they chime in "hey look at us, look at us". Alabama has been acting more realistic about moving up and UNLV has the best shot of moving up in the next 3 years. The best way for any school to go D1 is not do it the Arizona State way, they need to budget in an arena along with all the other costs.
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19 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:
Which of those are on/near campus?
Weber States arena is on campus where the Olympic Curling event was held, Right across the parking lot of the Dee Events Center.
Utah could use the Maverik Center right along I-215
BYU and UVU could use the Peaks Ice Arena (Olympic Hockey Arena, close to BYU).
UNLV is looking to use Orleans Arena or South Point Arena
Arizona has the TCC (Downtown Tucson, close to campus)
Illinois State has U.S. Cellular Coliseum (Downtown Bloomington, fairly close to campus)
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11 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:
I mean it's not perfect for students and you'd probably need a shuttle service but like I said, CC's rink is just as prohibitive to get to and has about 30,000 less students enrolled than UC-Boulder.
Maybe long-term(10-15 yrs) you could plan to get a campus arena but I don't think any visiting team would have an issue going to play at 1stBank Center in Broomfield, it's a nice arena that was built in 2006. Here's a picture of it:
It's perfect for visiting teams.
It's a good arena for Colorado, just need Colorado State to have something around 5,000 to play in. Colorado and Colorado State being D1 would be good for college hockey in Colorado.
Arizona, UNLV, Utah, BYU, UVU, Weber State, and Illinois State all have D1 sized arenas. With Weber State, BYU, and UVU's arenas need to have renovations.
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1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:
Tomek played a game and judging by the article played pretty well, despite losing 4-3.
Sounds like Matej may be in line to be the #1 goaltender for the Slovaks, this would be great for his confidence and growth!
http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2016/12/19/big-crowd-at-complex-for-swedes-vs-slovaks
41 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:I saw that....he played very very welll considering Sweden is much better than Slovakia this year. 40 saves!. Still would be tough to get that #1 spot considering huska is the man. But either way I'm rooting for him.
He came into a game against USA I think U17's and did very well even though they lost.
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Is the rink too far away from CU?
I haven't seen the attendance numbers for the CU CSU game at Pepsi Center.
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Jost with 2 goals after one 4-0 Canada up on Finland.
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SiriusXM College Sports during their "This Week in College Hockey" had Adriaan Klaassen the GM of Rutgers hockey, Zee Khan the GM of UNLV hockey, and Alabama Head Coach John Bierchen.
The only one I can find is Rutgers.
Not much new came from Rutgers on going D1 and it sounds like they are still a very long way from going NCAA D1.
Adriaan Klaassen (Rutgers GM) said that Colorado is looking to move up to NCAA D1, I haven't seen anything on it.
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Union beats Vermont 2-1
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Union and Vermont tied 1-1
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Northeastern beats Michigan State 6-2
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Northeastern leads Michigan State 6-2
Vermont leads Union 1-0
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15 minutes ago, sioux rube said:
Watch out. Arizona St is on a 3 game win streak.
They are ahead of CC and could have a better record then Miami.
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Duluth beats Bemidji 2-1
College Hockey Expansion
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The NCHC isn't worried about Miami and Western Michigan leaving for a hypothetical CCHA. The buyout is there to keep Miami or Western Michigan form leaving the NCHC, the buyout is there more to keep North Dakota and Denver from leaving the NCHC for the B1G. The only way those two leave for the B1G is if the get B1G Network money.
Alabama has made it known what conference they want to be in without saying anything. Alabama fan base has said they want to be in the NCHC. The only way Alabama would want to be in the WCHA is to play UAH 4 times a year.
Buffalo would join the AHA. Syracuse who would be a good add to the NCHC, but would be most likely added to Hockey East.