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So, how has UND done VS NDSU this year in sports: Mens Cross Country: NDSU Womens Cross Country: NDSU UND (I was confused by the total times and average times not even thinking about scoring based on places Womens Soccer: NDSU The rest of the games have yet to be played (obviously, early in the school year) and I fully expect that UND will win some and NDSU will win some. Goes with the territory. But SO FAR this year: NDSU leads 3 to 0 2 to 1 Editted for accuracy.

Proper punctuation. Coherent sentences. No talk about FCS being the new division 2 and those who love it being backward thinkers. Nope, not lakes.

I don't disagree. Mods should move it.

Hey Mods. MERGE THE THREADS. As long as there are things to comment on in the other one I will respond to it. The logical way to go about doing this is merge the two threads. HOWEVER this thread was for last years CGD. The other one was started (by a Bison fan.... I know) for this years CGD visit.

NDSU did a poor job of handling the situation. They were no longer able to stack the depth needed by offering scholarships. Thus some top recruits chose other schools. The other schools capitalized on this and NDSU couldn't overcome it. NDSU failed, UND didn't. It lead to the worst decade in recent ndsu football history.

It had a definite effect on on getting the players we were used to getting. UND capitalized on it better than NDSU.

I have ZERO issues with Rocky. Never have. The scholarships were my point of argument. Now Bob Babich can eat a dick

Of course the stars had to align, but it looks like they were looking for the opportunity to come here at some point this season.

Lee Fitting: "I keep getting that question why go back, this isn't a novelty or cute story, people keep equating to that, their three time national champion, won 26 in a row and dominating FBS opponents, you're a big time part of the college football landscape, and that's why we're coming back, it's not cute or Fargo or 1-AA school, we're coming back to show the proper respect that this program and community deserve.” Fitting: “It's crazy since we were there last year; we being there put NDSU on the college football fans radar and for instance, Fowler and myself talk each week and we mention the Bison once each GameDay who they're playing, what the record is and how many wins in a row, great for the sport, more attention to the FCS we can bring, that's a win for everyone.” “This is a combination of ‘College GameDay’ meets Wrigley Field meets Champions League soccer intensity,” Fitting said soon after last year’s show concluded. “To see the people on the balconies and hanging out of windows and on the rooftops was something that we never get to experience.” After the broadcast, Fitting called last year’s stop in Fargo one of the best “GameDay” shows ESPN had ever done. He’s hoping that same excitement can be replicated Saturday. “North Dakota State is alive on the college football map,” Fitting said. “They have won three national titles in a row. If Alabama won three titles in a row and we went back, no one would be saying anything.”

And that is why OU fans are bitching about gameday coming to NDSU rather than to them when they play the Vols? We didn't even have that packed of a Gameday set last year and they still chose to come back. I personally welcome the UND fans to attend. I'd go to Grand Forks if they ever decided to take the show there. Just one favor, and I don't mean this as a jab, but please show up for a football show wearing football apparel.

Do you want the honest answer? It's because they are coming because of NDSU, not the other team. They are coming because Fargo has been a favorite location of theirs. They are coming because they had great ratings last year here. They are coming because in Lee Fittings (paraphrased) words, it was one of the BEST gameday locations they've ever broadcast from. They are coming because of the fans.

Valid points, but something to consider: D2 cut their scholarship limit pretty drastically around that time making it harder to recruit the top tier (relatively speaking) athletes on the promise of a free education. What happened to some degree was that the playing field got leveled a bit and a lot of quality athletes opted to attend other schools. NDSU didn't/couldn't adapt to that. This ended the Rocky Hager era and brought in Babich.... that took care of most of the rest of the 90's and early 2000's. Will there be some athletes that want to come to UND/SDSU/UNI/USD/etc... just to unseat NDSU as the champions? Absolutely. And a good salesman (recruiter) should be able to make that sale on occasion. Not being in the same conference hurts your chances of that happening with semi-local recruits though.

No, NDSU can not take recruits there. They can tell them where it is, how to get there, what bus to get on, where to stand to be on camera, etc.. but they can not take them there for it.

I can agree 100% with what you are saying. Sometimes it's more than the sports program, but sometimes the sports program is enough for a recruit to say "I'll get 4-5 years of education for free from them and have an outside chance of going pro". I'll never fault a player for choosing one school over another for academics, especially when one has a program the other doesn't. (Aviation, Med, Law for example)

In all honesty, I would have been more surprised if they HADN'T known about UND. These guys do their homework (and at least a couple of them tweet regularly about college hockey as well). I have no issues with UND Hockey. Never have..... though I'm not a hockey fan really, but I'm happy when you guys do well in it. What's more alarming though should be that by saying "it's not hockey season" they are basically acknowledging that UND doesn't have a football program worth mentioning on air.

McFeely as a Bison-rube? LOL. DUDE HATES NDSU. So does Heitkamp. They are UND guys through and through.

I've seen this referenced a few times [removed]? If so there is no official record of it on the books in ND. http://publicsearch.ndcourts.gov/default.aspx Now, I do know that he was questioned about some statements he made about/to an elected official but as far as I can tell no charges were ever filed and the inquiry was dropped. MODERATOR EDIT -- REMEMBER GUYS, NO PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER POSTERS, THANKS.

At the old field, I'd agree. At the dome (at least the past few years) they use electronic scanners to count the tickets and verify that they aren't fake tickets.

Flipping that around, why didn't BF accept the home & home when it was initially offered 2 years ago by GT? Why did it take 2 years?

Again, we are going back a couple years to May of 2012. What has happened since May of 2012.... oh yeah, that's right. 2 more national championships. Faison should have pushed harder then if he really wanted it. The dates were there, it sounds like GT was ready to sign off on those dates (or darn close). The facts are that neither of them got to the point where a formal contract was written/presented. They were jawing back and forth about dates and schedules and whatnot. By the time Faison agreed to the verbal aspects of it, Taylor changed his mind and did not wish to pursue a written agreement. Happens ALL THE TIME in business. I was recently told verbally that I would be awarded the contract for a $2,000,000 IP Camera system. Was told we were low bidders by the General Contractor, was told the contract was coming. It went to one of our competitors instead even though their product wasn't wasn't as good but they were $50,000 cheaper than we were. !@#$ happens.

It was a business decision. It sucked, but we got by.

I actually can't believe this is hard for some to grasp that the football climate has changed since the original offer that Gene sent to UND was made. TWO YEARS LATER and they expect that the offer still stands? What kind of crazy world does UND live in? A two year old verbal offer doesn't mean !@#$. Hell recruits commit/decommit all the time based on verbal agreements. We don't go crying to the media every time that happens.

He put us in a situation where in 2014 we added a 12th game where we travel to a cupcake for added tune up for the conference play. Next year we get that tune up at home (filled a home spot on the schedule for next year). Now just one more cupcake to go next year since UND doesn't want to take us up on the payday to come here. We don't have to negotiate to where we have an away game and are left with only 5 home games. The reason we were over the barrel and pretty much forced to pay Ferris State to come here was because your conference mate bought out rather than play us. It was late in the year already and it was impossible for us to find another FCS team that wanted to come here and/or had room on their schedule.

Texas and Texas A&M no longer play either. Haven't since 2011 if I'm not mistaken.

You guys called them out as being an awful team. They finished slightly above UND in the Sagarin ratings. Not any worse of a cupcake than you guys.