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  1. Some speculation has centered around Big Sky football programs looking for a way into the FBS, but when asked what he’s heard on that front, Spear responded: “Nothing.”

    so can we end this inane little mental excursion yet or is this going to keep being the Happy-Time Imagination Land for the foreseeable future?

  2. I gotta ask: why do you go to UND?

    I don't see what that has to do with what you quoted, but I go to UND because my department is good, I get instate tuition, I went here before so it was easier to restart and I still knew a ton of people. I don't know why that matters.

  3. You need to do a little research on the limitations of the RPI and how conferences can exploit it. Mid Level conferences with a large number of conference games are at a disadvantage compared to smaller conferences with less games conference games. That is why many simply state #buttrpi and this is why many mid major schools with very high RPIs do not get at large bids. I personally think head to head is the best measure - +18 works for me.

    RPI is a terrible metric, i agree. Sagarin, pomeroy, etc are pretty good. Head to head UND lost to SUU. UND was a mile better than SUU. Head to head means nothing.
  4. I agree that there is more to it than just numbers but to say what is presented is meaningless is being willfully ignorant. Here are some quick breakdowns of percentage of students who get waivers:

    ND Students

    UND - 18.2%

    NDSU - 24.0%

    Non ND Residents

    UND - 5.8%

    NDSU - 17.4%

    International

    UND - 26.7%

    NDSU - 78.9%

    Total waivers given out

    UND - 2,430 to 2,022 unduplicated students worth $8.9 million

    NDSU - 5,034 to 3,892 unduplicated students wroth $18.0 million

    UND gave out 699 full waivers worth $3.7 million. NDSU gave out 1,044 full waivers worth $7.3 million.

    Of waivers given out, the number that was mandated by statutes or policy was 328 waivers worth $486K for UND and 424 worth $699K for NDSU (schools had no choice but to give these waivers).

    My two points: 1) 25.1% of NDSU students get a waiver of some sort and they give out 57% of the total waivers in the entire NDUS system. By comparison, UND is at 12.1% and 28%. I don't care how you spin it, that is a significant disparity, especially considering the numbers include UND's law and med school. 2) While there are grants and stipends that come along with some of these waivers, NDSU continues to claim they are underfunded while adding to their enrollment with students who aren't paying tuition/room/board/etc or only portions of it. So not only are there a large amount of students getting waivers (revenue NDSU is foregoing), NDSU is getting still gets funding from the state to support them because as far as I can tell, the funding formula includes all students, regardless of how much of a waiver they get. Not bad from NDSU's perspective.

    Considering the high proportion of out of state and out of country waiver recipients, i think I large portion of this is being driven by the differences in graduate programs. Business, law and medicine students typically don't get waivers because their services aren't very useful to the university, and med students don't because it's a suppliers market for med school. Engineering, math, comp sci and the sciences get the waivers because their skills are useful to the research goal of the university. So the things UND has don't get waivers and the things that NDSU has do. That doesn't account for all of it, or maybe even most of it, it doesn't explain why more ND students are getting waivers or why they have more statutory waivers.
  5. And the Metro Atlantic has a higher Men's Basketball RPI than the Summit. Do you think your favorite school should make a move?

    not exactly a reasonable comparison. We're in the summit footprint. NDSU is not in the Metro Atlantic footprint. Our teams and our opponents often fly out of or in to a summit league town, often through another one. Two of the programs main rivals (NDSU and Denver) are in the conference, as are three of our primary historical opponents. (UNO, USD, and SDSU) We recruit summit and mvfc league territories, places where we almost never play games. You don't think that hurts us in Illinois or southern Wisconsin?

    the only downside to the summit/mvfc is the instability issue, which in any case would be essentially solved by UND joining. the valley can afford to lose ysu and msu, that after all is how many teams it had before wku left. I think EIU and Murray state would both jump at an a mvc/mfvc invite.

    We would be trading out UM, MSU, UNC, and EWU/Weber for NDSU, Denver, USD, SDSU, and UNO. You know, those schools that we've been playing sports with for about a century. ORU may be a repulsive clown college but they play good ball and are invested in their program, at least monetarily, maybe not so much with the fans. UMKC, WIU, IPFW and IUPUI are throwaways, but so are suu, idaho, ewu bb and weber fb, psu, nau and sac state.

    #buttrpi

    you really undermine the argument that UND is a better university when you criticize them for using math. If the big sky really is a better conference, you would think someone here would be able to find some sort of robust statistical measure or qualified, unbiased opinion in favor of the big sky being better.
  6. Mikey Daniel would be a star FCS running back. Hope we get him.

    Have a feeling he'll either go FBS or NDSU, though.

    NDSU has too many RB's right now I think, both to be an attractive place for a player or for the health of the team. I think only two of their 6-8 RB's for the fall are upperclassmen. All the rest will be RS sophomores or younger. I tend to be skeptical about play right away arguments, but i think it fits here. I wonder how interested he is in staying in brookings?

  7. Bubba has the potential to a better head coach then Klieman.

    for a while much of sioux sports seemed to think that kleiman was the best choice and woudl be next coach and were pretty trilled. Then he suddenly went off the market and the coaching search went adrift.

  8. keep in mind that there is a movement to make baseball a two season sport so they can do half the season in the fall and half in the spring. The big ten is behind it so it's got a good shot. There should be enough athletes to be at least regionally competitive. The lack of a realistic conference is a problem.

  9. So not only does NDSU give twice as many tuition waivers as UND (and more than all other NDUS schools combined), they basically admit everyone (almost 85% of applicants over the last 10 years).

    ACT and GPA average over the last 10 years are almost identical.

    the tuition waver issue is meaningless if we don't know to whom they're going. For instance if the demand for engineering graduate students is high enough that in certain disciplines students get full tuition wavers and stipends, like some engineers at UND do, and if one field is predominant at UND or at NDSU, then you can have a pretty big differential pretty quick. I don't know if pharma at ndsu even has a grad program but if it does I could see that program having a big expensive tuition waver pool to get quality grad assistants if they are a big department. So the jury is out until you know where they are going (i've only heard anecdotes about foreign students, which could mean anything)

    UND ACT GPA Apply Admit Enroll Admit% Enroll% Retent 4yr 5yr 6yr

    2003 22.9 3.36 4,066 3,096 2,233 76.1% 72.1% 78% 17.1% 40.5% 49.6%

    2012 23.5 3.33 5,408 3,984 2,360 73.7% 59.2% 74% 25.3% 47.5% 54.3%

    NDSU ACT GPA Apply Admit Enroll Admit% Enroll% Retent 4yr 5yr 6yr

    2003 23.0 3.37 3,245 3,153 1,986 97.2% 63.0% 78% 16.2% 40.8% 50.3%

    2012 23.7 3.39 5,562 4,647 2,441 83.5% 52.5% 79.6% 23.7% 45.9% 52.4%

    for the last year with data for both schools, NDSU had a modest advantage in act score and gpa among new students, more applicants more admissions and more enrollment. Even giving UND the benefit of the doubt and calling the student bodies even, then why are the enrollment, admission and retention numbers so different? Enrollment should be biased to the lowest quality students you admit, so if NDSU is letting anyone in... then who is UND letting in? The aviation students probably account most of the deviation between the schools, since its i significantly different applicant body.

    moreover, how are none of you concerned that outside of aviation, more students want to go to ndsu and they on average have higher entrance measurements? I'm concerned about this and the future value of my degree, and that the rest of you just want to make excuses or divert attention instead of doing something about it is very disappointing. There is no excuse for UND losing ground to NDSU.

  10. seems like a massive overreaction toward Gamma Phi, and that's someone who doesn't care about the nickname or the frozen four.

    My youngest played in the grand am this past weekend. One of the teams that were there, all their players were Native, had a team name Sioux.

    It is hard to make sense of it all.

    this is a really easy issue, and it boggles my mind that so many of you refuse to understand it. It's willful ignorance.

  11. 2 dakota teams in, and UND can make it four.

    And NDSU goes dancing again

    maybe the wear and tear of big sky traveling has beating down our team?

    UND did much better in conference, so i would be skeptical of that hypothesis

  12. ... It's the highest rate we have seen since WWII... And the highest peace time rate ever. So I'm wondering facts you are basing your opinion off of when you say "70% is pretty low?"

    comparison with peer countries.

    Call me old-school in thinking that the idea of improving a financial situation isn't shaking down people for more money...it's cutting spending. But hey, Minnesota needs a new building to house its Senators, right? After all, it'll provide good union construction jobs and help the economy! No problem...here's $90 million!

    no, thats actually a very new-school train of thought.

  13. Its kind of a keynesian debate then whether or not gov spending into private enterprise is the best way to expand economic growth. At this point we are addicted to it.

    i'm not sure you understand what keynes/hicks was getting at, because it wasn't that. Not really what the general theory was about.

    The other issue is the mobility of labor/capital. If I am very bright and motivated, I want to get paid. If it isn't in healthcare, I go somewhere else.

    I think you are vastly overestimating the degree to which people make decisions like this on market incentives. I think people get into doctoring because they want to doctor.

    Think of the surgeon working 60-70 hours per week for $400k per year. if that becomes $200k, he/she isn't going to work 60-70 hours, requiring more surgeons to keep up with demand. If I am an very talented 22 year old, I then question the value of incurring $200k in debt and foregoing an decent income until I'm 30. Then you lose docs or lose docs with talent.

    I'm not sure that this really holds. First off you have a wealth/income trade off. Yes your making less an hour, but now you need to work more to keep up. Second, I'm not sure how much freedom doctors have in setting their hours. I know in finance people work 60-70 hours a week because that what their employer and peers expect of them, take it or leave it. Law I have heard is similar though i'm less familiar with that.

    I think surgeons surgeoning a few hours less a week would probably be a very very good thing. I know what happens to me when i go that long, and it isn't any condition its want people doing important things in.

  14. You're referring to economies of scale, which should occur at a large enough level of membership. The problem is those economies of scale just don't come to fruition on anything other than claims processing, which is truly as close to the clerical at you represented.

    In this case the driver behind size isn't returns to scale, which likely occur early in the scale process, but again the negotiating leverage it gives insurers against hospitals. The bigger you are, the bigger a discount you can get. Similarly the bigger and better your hospital, the more you can get your provider to pay. The premium increases seem to have been worst in the smallest markets, where there is bound to be the least competition.

    Anyway Sanford wants to build a monster new hospital and Altru has been thinking about the same, so the price gets passed on because no one can say no. The ACA isn't nearly perfect (oh no some people lost their crappy plans) but it fixed the worst parts.

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  15. I have a tough time believing that BCBS went from being profitable in 2012 to losing enough money in 2013 to think it needs a 20% premium increase for 2014.

    I have a feeling that this is being driving by provider consolidation. Sanford's empire building had a purpose and many speculated (with good reason) that it was to give it more market leverage. I think market consolidation over the last 30~ years is one of the driving forces behind the increase in inequality over that time period, not surprised to see this now.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm...I guess that's one take on this albeit a misinformed and misguided one.

    nothing he said is untrue. off topic, perhaps.

    Breaks are different than handouts and entitlements IMO. If one pays a 1/4 or a 1/3 of their income in federal taxes and someone else pays nothing...zero...into that federal tax pot................

    a subsidy is a subsidy is a subsidy. The method of disbursement really doesn't make a difference, it will still cause the exact same distortion. You get more money for picking an arbitrary course of action. That's a subsidy.
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  16. I stand corrected on the Minnesota part, although it is irrelevant to the diversion issue because I know that Dayton, and a few other area MN state lawmakers have said that they will not provide funding. MN never said they would fund their share, that is just something that the Diversion Authority expects them to do. However, I do not see how any person can say that the federal government isn't in a tough financial position? Our national debt is over 70% of our GDP, and while some people are jumping up and down celebrating the shrinking budget deficit, it was still over half a trillion dollars last year.

    70% is pretty low.

    I guess if you consider raising taxes thru the roof to "improve" the financial situation a positive thing, you're correct.

    you now how you know someone is actually serious about deficits and budget issues? They consider raising revenue. Sometimes they even do in fact raise taxes, which does in fact improve budget situations. Crazy.

  17. ... so because some und folks got mad someone should be fired? It was a hockey game...... Between two teams that have zero connection to this area..... NDSU has a connection to the area. You are really trying to make this more difficult than it needs to be.

    hockey fans aren't part of reality. They think their sport matters and more than a smattering of die-hards care. Neither is true.

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  18. You are both correct. He is not a fan of the diversion project as it is very costly and very damaging to areas south of Fargo, and he wanted to ensure that if it is built, funding is secured. Funding is the biggest hurdle for this project (always has been), the benefit/cost ratio for the project is quite low, and getting congress to approve $1 billion for a city that has never lost flood fight, is located in the most cash abundant state in the nation, and is currently being sued in federal court on four counts is a very tall order. The project cost will be well in excess of $2 billion dollars when all said and done, and Carlson has a legitimate concern over funding because the Diversion Authority cannot wait to get started on this project, and have publicly stated that they will start the project without full funding. The Diversion Authority has never stated where any excess funding will come from if funding for the project falls short, or if the project goes over budget (like nearly all Corps of Engineers projects do), Fargo doesnt have enough money for it unless they tack on some major property special assessments, Federal Government is broke, Minnesota is broke, that leaves the state of ND as the only viable option for excess funds, and Carlson knew that.

    In my opinion, the project makes little sense, Fargo is building a diversion around undeveloped land to the south that is in a floodplain and retaining water on high land that has never flooded before. Not to mention, that land that will be used to retain water on is some of the best farmland in the world.

    not sure where you are coming from with the feds and mn are broke bit. MN is in a much better financial situation than they were (i think they even have a surplus now) and the feds have never been in bad shape, despite the best efforts of grand bargainers and misc. anti gov types to convince people otherwise.

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