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http://bigskyconf.com/documents/2015/7/17//2015PreseasonPolls.pdf?id=3805
UND picked 9th in both coaches' and media preseason polls. Honestly, although coach-speak may suggest that UND shouldn't care, this has to stop at some point in time.
Respect has to be earned. I surely hope that 2015 is the season that Bubba and his players rack up some key wins, such as home games vs Montana State and Idaho State and road games vs Montana and Cal Poly, to put UND football on the Big Sky Conference's radar. After awhile, UND players needs to get ticked off that THE University of North Dakota is being overlooked by schools such as Southern Utah and Sacramento State; I don't mean any direct disrespect to those schools, but they don't belong in the same category as UND. UND now officially has some of the top facilities in the Big Sky Conference, with the HPC and the Alerus.
UND needs to simply produce in the win and loss column, that's it. I hope respect is earned sooner rather than later.
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When the blacks were unveiled they waited until fall camp. Likely what they will do here.
They don't have them in yet. We'll see them when they receive them from Adidas. For example, Will Ratelle was wearing last year's Nike jersey at the media session.
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Yeah, so do that. Winning games is important.Gotta win more games to get on the worthless preseason teams.
I think the Big Sky Conference still thinks UND football is a middle-of-the-road program like Weber State and Southern Utah. Bubba and the boys need to change that, starting this season. It's getting old. THE University of North Dakota should be no different than schools like Montana State, Montana, and Eastern Washington. The facilities and fan base are in place, just need to win!
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I'm hopeful but more cautious, as I thought that we would have handled Weber better than we did last year at home.
That game was just bad-timing. Only Studrud's second start and coming off a horrible game vs. Eastern Washington. Also, the offense was bare thin at most positions. Offense wont be any worse in 2015, thats for sure.
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Disterhaupt- eye of the tiger, it's an intangible he plays with. Nothing wrong with 3 starting outside backers to keep guys fresh.
Absolutely. Throw in ILB O'Brien, OLB Harmston, OLB Labat, and New Mexico transfer ILB Baker and UND has solid depth behind the starters. Bubba ball is starting to take shape!
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New uniform pictures should be surfacing soon, but for the time being, here's a photo of Will Ratelle holding the new matte helmets with logo:
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http://bigskyconf.com/news/2015/7/17/MBB_0717155020.aspx
Big Sky Conference will have instant replay systems in place for football and basketball officials starting this season (2015). Will be huge for officiating of games, as the quality of the BSC in that category has been, well, lacking.
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You bring up a very important point that has been touched on before. Attrition from non-local prospects had badly hurt UND football before Bubba got here as head coach and it will continue to hurt UND. The most important prospects are those from the Midwest, specifically ND and MN. They are the most likely to stick it out the full 4 - 5 years.I liked Hartleys potential a lot and don't like seeing him gone. The two big cbs looked good on paper but since they never got here we really don't know what we missed. UND-FB-FAN is correct that attrition is a part of college football and that is a big reason why local guys that work hard and wait their turn are extremely important to the program for depth. Guys that came in as walk ons in that two deep like Seibel, Schmitz, and Olson are good examples of that.
Other than that pre camp depth charts are pretty meaningless. Just something to talk about.
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My original post was fueled by the over-the-top, vitriolic rhetoric recently displayed by some "NDSU faithful" on Twitter.You may, or may not, be right about NDSU's attitude after the game is played is played. Either way, your original post is typical of the over-the-top, vitriolic rhetoric that, IMO, caused the rivalry to end in the first place.
If you wish to choose no association, that's fine; after all, I specifically chose not to state NDSU supporters as a unanimous group in my original post.
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Ouch.Add Big rangy DBs Hilton and Webb to the not coming list, per Tom Miller. I really wanted those two.
Attrition is a bitch in college football. Sure hope there's enough depth to keep this thing moving in the right direction.
Yet A LOT of question-marks for this year's team.
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If you do want this game to continue on a regular basis, calling NDSU people morons, fools, and idiots isn't helpful.
Right, because those other than NDSU's administration and athletic department have an actual say in the scheduling. Also, I was very specific in saying only some of NDSU's supporters are overwhelmed. Please read more carefully and comprehensively.
After the game on Septmeber 19th, NDSU will understand why they should continue to schedule UND; that is, unless UND wins.
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I didn't notice that. He's not listed on the losses. Also, the UofMinn LB Jephete Matilus is not on there either. Wonder what the deal is there?
Matilus is now not coming, that I have heard. As for Hartley, I sure hope that's just a typo because he was looking like the real deal last spring.
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The Twitter conversation that ensued after the article was released is absolutely asinine.Not the article I expected. Well written and balanced, very much enjoyed it.
I see the mensa club, including their "independent" recruiting guru/NCAA violation, wasted no time in going after Schlossman on Twitter to defend their honor. No surprise, they continue to talk themselves in circles as Schlossman shoots down every excuse they have.
Some NDSU supporters/morons believe it's okay to schedule Weber State and not UND? Then they go on to say money is not a priority at NDSU (complete bull$%!#) and that they enjoy winning championships. Behind the scenes, NDSU's administration does all it can to get wealthy ND and MN farmers to contribute year in and year out. What a bunch of crap. Lastly, the pitch is made that NDSU players don't care about playing UND and that no game should ever be played in the Alerus. It's all complete incompetence on the part of some NDSU bozos. I mean, I'm sure Ohio State would love to host Michigan every year, or maybe Iowa host OOC rival Iowa State every season, but it doesn't work that way, so some of the ignorant fools in Fargo need to try look at this a bit more objectively.
What has happened in Fargo the last four seasons acts as quite the psychological experiment; the people who do not have the wherewithal to handle NDSU's success show their lack of mental fortitude through arrogance and illogical babbling.
Congrats NDSU, you're fanbase officially contains "die-hard" idiots. Of course, that's common in many fanbases, but yet that does not make it entirely tolerable.
UND and NDSU are long-time rivals at the same division classification. Yes, they are not in the same conference and in football they have not been even close in terms of competitiveness, but that should not stop either school from scheduling this. NDSU fans who don't want this are either too arrogant or too young (possibly both) to remember the kind of atmosphere this game breeds. It needs to happen, because as far as I can tell, what more does NDSU need to look forward to? Their 4-year championship run was/has been impressive, but it's time to move onto different things and think about the state they're supposedly representing.
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Curious question for UND fans. What have been your impressions of Jordan Hinojosa? I haven't followed him since he left the U, has he played? What's his expected role this season?
Started at nose guard last season in UND's 3-4 defensive front and he will likely start there again this season. He brings a tremendous amount of energy and passion to the defensive side of the ball, and that's just what UND's coaching staff wants; that is, if it is controlled. If there's a negative to his game, perhaps he gets a bit too "amped up" at times. Nevertheless, he's a good football player and a starter on one of the best FCS defenses in the country.
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The UND offense finally gelled at the end of last season and I think in large part the improvement was due to the offensive line finally having enough game time under their belts to develop into a cohesive unit, allowing Garman to gash UNA and UNC. With the OL coming back mostly intact I do not see the offensive regressing to the level of ineffectiveness often shown earlier in the 2014 season. One caveat to that optimistic outlook might be that the RB's need to be able to play in synch with the OL in the manner that Garman did in those last two games.
UND and Rudolph's offense is going to live and die by the ground game, especially given the unknown factor at the quarterback position. When UND was running the football effectively against Northern Arizona and Northern Colorado at the end of last season, UND was a very competitive team that had the full offensive-defensive package. I agree with you that there's no reason the running game/offensive line will be any worse than it was during the 2014 season; just much better depth/numbers and better cohesiveness with that group now a year later.
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I watched every game he played, most of his track meets, and know his coach and his family. But I watched James Johanneson, who is a legit 4.5, run him off the track.
Jade has the potential to be a great BSC LB, not a RB in my opinion.
Lawrence is an OLB at the DI level, not a RB.
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The thing is that 100% of recruiting classes never work out. There's too many variables like academics, commitment issues, and even inadequate playing ability. I guess it's better to be closer to 100% than 50%, but those Canadian kids offer major talent at a nearby location. That's critical to program building in college football (pipelines).If we lost 50% of our entire recruiting class that would be catastrophic. So I don't think 50% is a decent success rate.
I think it's a hotbed too, and I'm sure the coaches are aware of, and more so now of 1) other football options the Canadian kids have 2) eligibility requirements going forward Canada to US
Hopefully if the staff goes back up into Canada for 2016 recruiting, the results are a bit better.
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Maybe we need a new policy on Canadian kids. 2 out of 5-6 have bailed for one reason or another. Both Williams and Hanson could have been 3-4 year starters in my opinion.
The ones who have stayed (Olivera and Bennett) will likely be 3-4 year starters as well. I think that's a decent success rate (2/4 or 50%) considering the talent there. Keep going after Canadian footnall stars, because they know the weather and are familiar with the area. I think the Canada recruiting hotbed is a good idea for UND football.
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I know, right!?! So many of them spending so much time trolling around a team that "shouldn't even be on their field."
Things are getting boring down at Cowville...
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You're simply referring to the law of averages, and in that case, it's needs sufficent sample size. And if you think anyone could've coached the 2014 UND football team to 5 wins and competitive games vs Montana and Montana State, you're mistaken. I suggest you take your grade school statistics - although you may have learned that at Fargo U and that wouldn't surprise me - elsewhere. After a single season, it is perfectly more reasonable to suspect improvement rather than it is to suspect simple regression, particularly given the circumstances of 2014 UND football.No, "regression to mean" refers to the tendency for any extreme measure to followed (and preceded) by a more mediocre measure (i.e. - closer to the mean). It is true that we might not be able to estimate results without a larger sample, however the tendency to regress toward mediocrity exists independent of sample size.
You need to be careful that you don't interpret last year's somewhat better record as being caused by the coaching change. It may in fact be due to purely random factors, which are not likely to repeat themselves in the future. Coaches tend to get fired after a run of bad "luck."
Regression to mediocrity occurs spontaneously due to natural phenoma, whereas improvement occurs through concentrated effort, such as hard work. Bubba and UND football are now putting in that hard work; improvement will happen.
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What's your opinion on the only real fact that matters...
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I could give a sh*t if its 30 to 1. This is a UND board; our interests are independent of Moo U. In 2015, the only thing that will matter as far as UND-NDSU goes is who plays better on September 19th, not who had the bigger balls in 1990, 2011, or 2014.
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Ever consider the possibility that the improvement you're seeing is really just a simple regression toward the mean?
As bad as things were in 2013, it's not unlikely that UND would have shown improvement in 2014 if they had hired any reasonable coach other than Bubba, and possibly even if they had done nothing.
Well, in order for there to be regression to the mean that is actually statistically significant, there needs to be a reasonable sample size. College football has shown that a sample size of 3 to 5 years is reasonable, not one year.
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I just don't generally call the 35th ranked defense who were embarrassed several times as being good. I think they had a few good performances last year but overall wouldn't call them good.
I think most coaches who faced UND would disagree with you. Yes, UND gave up points and had deceiving stats in some games and categories, but the eye test would tell you UND's defense was the real deal. The PPG stat is largely misleading because it has as much to do with bad offense as it does good defense. UND's offense gave very little support in 2014.
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2011 vs Idaho, thumped. Then we turned around and had the ball to win it against Fresno St with an NFL starter at QB.
If we get thumped by Wyoming it might be a good thing for us going into Fargo. Wake the team up, show the coaches some holes to fix, and get NDSU to relax a bit more.
Stop comparing the Mussman regime to the present one. That Fresno State game was nothing but a moral victory. UND football is no longer about that, thank God.
Vote on your final 5 nickname choices (just ND is out)
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Why do the masses want to have "no nickname"? Obviously, North Dakota is not a nickname, because its a proper identifier, the actual name of the state, and the actual name of the university. A nickname is a substitute for the proper term, not a redundancy.
I can say with fair certainty the public favoritism towards "no nickname" exists not because having "no nickname" would be beneficial to the university as a DI school, because, clearly, no other universities of DI status claim "no nickname". It largely limits marketing and identification qualities on a NATIONAL scale (which should be the goal of any DI athletic program), not just a local scale.
Also, the claim that the list contains no proper replacements is perhaps reasonable, but not catastrophic as some suggest. Roughriders or Fighting Hawks would do just fine. High schools athletics do not even compare to DI college athletics. Secondly, non-GF graduates and most outside of the Grand Forks area could care less what the local high school mascots are. Additionally, some logos suggested for the Fighting Hawks have been quite artistic and unique and would have positive marketing potential.
In all reality, this entire emotional tirade is nothing more than a bunch of supporters having severe difficulty letting go. Blame the NCAA. Blame the legal settlement terms. But do not blame the nickname committee for having to do what their title suggested: select a nickname. Why should we condone the message "If we can't have this, then we should have nothing at all"? That is a societal fallback that is deplorable and problematic. Compromises need to be made in several contextual areas in life, and simply doing nothing is the emotional, irrational alternative to that; as a supporter of constructive criticism, procedural deliberation, and objective thought, I support the former rather than the latter.