yzerman19

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I rest my case.

Too much of this country on both sides has become party over country...we leveraged the union to become the super power of the 20th century...maybe we should splinter to remain viable in the 21st?

As I advanced in my career, one of the greatest blind spots I’ve observed in many talented people is their inability to appreciate the fact that they dont know what they don’t know or they assume that they have the same basis in data or understanding as others in the room. It applies to both IQ and EQ facets. To me it’s the biggest hurdle for people trying to get the executive suite. It’s painfully obvious that it applies to the body politic in spades and half of that body having no actual talent.

Neil Ferguson has drastically lowered his prediction for COVID hospitalizations and deaths.

China most certainly lied in the beginning. The draconian measures they took to stop the initial spread would never have been tolerated in the USA or anywhere in the free world. This is NOT the 12 Monkeys virus either, in which case I could support draconian measures.

Not in CA and WA...even construction sites are shut down

It is going to be very interesting to dissect this event in retrospect. I think we’re still 2 weeks out from a good assessment of where we sit in terms of the healthcare side of the pandemic.

If you’ve been active on here in real time from the beginning it’s much better than if you popped in and are trying to catch up. that said, there’s been great posts, we have some healthcare heroes in the middle of the fight, we’ve got some healthy opposing viewpoints, we’ve got info that we otherwise might not have because of the geographic and employment diversity of members.... we also have some very opinionated politicos, partisans, tinfoil hats, cultists, blowhards, etc... In other words...this forum resembles a Congress

I certainly don’t propose shutting the media down, but I think we have an abundance of irresponsible, entertainment/audience focused media. It’s hard to get straight facts these days. It feels more Joseph Goebels than Walter Cronkite.

Right...it is ridiculous...the media wants this to not work...why? Well the answer is pretty obvious

The average American is going to be hurting

Over 1M New unemployment claims in CA in less than two weeks

Yes sir, And this is the stupid game. Every decision politicized.

You can convert lives and hospitalizations to dollars...it’s inelegant, but you can. I attempted that earlier. the fact that we live in such a polarized political environment makes all of this so much worse. Remember: viruses don’t belong to a party.

There are lots of places in CA and NY outside of LA/SF proper and NYC where we’re spread out. I’m on 3/4 of an acre in Ventura County.

First major uptick in CA COVID admissions on this morning’s Global hospital census. Including about half in ICU...including an infant, other peds, all ages thereafter as well. Some with comorbidities many without. Good news is they are spread across facilities so no bed shortages at this time.

You couldn’t pay me to get on a cruise ship right now

UV known to kill viruses. High UV and high humidity beat viruses

And how is it the federal governments job to dictate what a state procures for itself? I think too many people haven’t familiarized themselves with the constitution. The President isn’t the boss of the states.

I too worry about the precedent. I worry more that decisions are being made in part due to politics. On the flip side, I am more worried than I was before about the bug. If just 4% of people are getting critically ill, that still feels pretty high to me. If 3/4 of them are old/sick to begin with, you’re still looking at 1% of otherwise healthy people ending up in the hospital if they catch this. Does anyone know what % of influenza infections end up hospitalized? I don’t know anyone who has never had the flu, and I don’t know anyone who has been hospitalized from the flu.

CA closed construction...huge impact on small business

I would venture to guess that people aren’t buying the services in this environment of social distancing and self quarantine

I think the challenge is that we haven’t seen the true carnage of this virus, so the Health numbers at this point are far from overwhelming, while the economic numbers On the other hand are devastating. From a purely logical perspective if 4% of those afflicted end up in serious/critical condition and this virus Afflicts with symptoms just 10% of the US population (call that 33M), then we have 1.3M people needing hospital support...if 10% of those people die, we’re at 130,000. Those would be fairly conservative estimates. If each death was worth $1M and each surviving hospitalized person was worth $200k, then the break even economic impact is $364T

And one from self-medicating with fish tank additive. my buddy was like “Trump said it works”... my response was...non-FDA and non-pharmacist prepared and non-prescriber monitored. he replied,” but same basic chemical Trump said” I asked him if he thought heroine from the corner was as safe as two Percocet prescribed by his doctor and picked up at CVS...same basic chemical