fourwindsboy

Are you serious? Wow is that an ignorant statement! That is classic. So your saying all of us NA's, blacks, especially in South Africa, Aboriginies, Maori in New Zealand, etc are letting racism happen? We are letting you be racist. I'm gonna put that in my favorites, I gotta show this to my bro's. You are Stupid, you know that just plain stupid! Go ahead all the rest of you, defend him. I can't wait to read what's coming.

Why doesn't "sticking it to the majority" not make sense? You know what bothers all of you about the nickname being changed is that you will have lost to the "Indians" on this matter. And most of you just can't come to terms with that. Think about it, after kickin our a$$es for so long, you'll finally lose one!

Then why don't you petition to have the name changed to the Fighting Jews if they don't mind? One important point is that the majority will never understand what it feels like to be discriminated against and that is very evident in reading the majority if the posts on this forum. But don't think your words will discourage me from continuing to post.

OK I get it. I don't support the nickname and try to give a Native American perspective to most of my posts but you all are so close minded that you don't want to listen or just ignore. What would be constructive? I know if I was if favor of the nickname, i get it.

Ah, you just did. And don't go feelin all warm and fuzzy about me trolling your posts. I looked at the first page of the topic and came across your post. I didn't have time to look at all 134 pages to find replies to your post. By the way how did it feel to be dead wrong about your statement?

Whoa, whoa, whoa! UND does not spend millions of $$$ out of its own pocket for NA programs. All of the NA programs at UND are grant programs funded by the feds. UND applied for those grants and they awarded to them. In fact any federal grant has indirect costs related to them, always around 10-15% of the grant, which UND puts in thier pockets. So in effect, UND is earning themselves money for having these NA programs. I know for a fact the NA cultural center, INMED, Bridges, the Mcnair programs and the INPSYD program are federally funded. I challenge you to tell of a NA program at UND that is funded by UND funds.

Ok, what do you think they would do if a school changed their name to the Fighting Jews or the Raging Hasidics? The jews would be makin some noise then. Course if that happened then you'd say they were complainin for nothing, they're bein crybabies, etc, etc......

Pidamaya.

Already live on the rez and couldn't be happier.

CIa, I think your full of it! Couple of things jump out at me about your story. First, you are only telling one side of the story. I'm sure theres another side from the other party involved. Second, you make it sound like a non-native working on a rez is totally unwelcomed. I know of numerous non-native on my rez who have worked here for years and get along with everyone and are happy. You make the rez sound like some kind of hellhole. The rez is different from communties off the rez with there own way of doing things. Doesn't mean its wrong just different than off the rez. To bad you couldn't say kinder things about the rez you were on as I know there were.

Believe me, on the SLN it isn't one person. It's a significant amount of people. Alot of these people, including myself, are educated. More importantly, most of the elders are opposed to the name. On any rez, the opinion of the elders is held in the highest regard.

How in the hell are Native Americans supposed to end racism when we're the victims? PR blunders my a$$. So if by some miracle the nickname stays, NA's are going to be embraced by the dominant culture and racism ends and we all sing Kumbaya by the campfire? Wake up and smell the coffee people! NA's have always gotten the shaft from the man and always will. I'm bein real and you know it. If we have a chance to win a small skirmish, after gettin kicked for hundreds of years, then I'm all for it.

Who is this person who authors this website? Is this person a PHD or someone with any real empirical evidence other than hearsay? Oh, and who is the author? If the person who runs this website wants to be taken seriously, then they should make themselves known.

Dude, your'e gonna have to look at my previous posts. Not once do I call UND a horrible place. It's a different place from where I'm from and I had some negative experiences there. If you had to move to a reservation and live for an extended period of time, what would you think? Perspective, my boy, perspective. Keep arguing with me though, its actually amusing.

I could list the experiences I had at UND but what good would it do? You would just call me a liar anyway. I know what experiences I had while I was at UND and I don't have to prove it to you or anybody else! If you think there is not prejudice at UND then you need to wake up and smell the coffee, bro. By the way, I earned my Masters Degree at Montana State- Bozeman. Their NA programs and outreach to the reservations is tremendous. UND would do good to try to emulate their programs.

Yes there are negatives everywhere but UND seems to be dragging its feet on one of the major issues of our country and that is racism. A major university like UND needs to be a positive force and not tolerate incidence like these but their reaction has been poor at best. I actually feel bad for my alma mater.

That may or may not be true. I am from the SLT and I have never heard of anyone begging for food. You will not find any people living on the streets either. Extended families are big on reservations and a family member will always open their doors for another. Oh wait, don't tell me, you heard it from some one that there was a homeless person on the SLN. Please. And by the way, there are homeless people people living 2 BLOCKS FROM THE US CAPITAL BUILDING, while congressman and senators give themselves bonus'. Get real and get a clue.

That is a good paragraph that should be aimed all americans not just NA's. Judging our tribal government by looking at a website, wow.

Sounds to me like you're putting the victim on trial rather than the perps. Why? I get the feeling you attitude is the same as UND's, make the victim prove he was terrorized rather than have the perps prove they are innocent. Another blackeye for UND. I am a UND grad and I always wanted m kids to go to UND for college but incidents like these and the nickname issue have changed my mind. I can't stop them from going there but I certainly won't encourage them. Go ahead, let the potshots begin! I put on my mental kevlar.

The site you are refering to is way off base. Our tribal government is by no means perfect but is no where near what is described in that site. I know 3 of the individuals on the council and they are good people. It's hard to run a tribe and they are doing the best they can. The individual who runs that site must have aserious bone to pick with someone.

There are no MD's, Engineers who are enrolled members of the SLT. To my knowledge, there are 2 lawyers, one who lives on SLT and I don't know were the other resides or works. Wow you from Spirit lake? How do you know so much or think you know so much about the SLT? I get the feeling you are just making inferences based on stereotypes and heresay. I was born and raised on the SLN. Have a masters degree, am married with 2 kids, who attend a school on the SLN, and am very happy living here. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else. It is no where near as bad as you described it! Gangs, are you kidding me?! Corrupt polititians, boy you don't find those anywhere but on a reservation! Its people like you who perpetuate the negative stereotypes toward us.

I was going to reply to you and goon's requests to site my experiences at UND but I can't bring myself to respond to persons who would refer to themselves as "Goon" and "Goon squad". Your monkers give me and idea of your mindset and no thanks!

I worked at CCCC for over ten years and alot of attempts were made to partner with UND via distance learning but those efforts were always in vain. The sticking point was, of course money. By the way, CCCC initiated those talks and I guess you could say they were rejected.

You know why you don't hear about most of these racist experiences. Because we are used to being discriminated against at the towns close to our reservations and we sort of become use to it. Devils Lake is a very racist community and myself and pretty much everyone I know has had experiences there thoughout our lives. As for putting them on the table what the hell is that going to do? Are the attackers going to repent? Come on, wake up and smell the coffee. i find it amusing that when I come on here and other forums and express my veiwpoint on how I think the nickname should be changed based on my life experiences, I end up being accused of not tolerating other races.