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  1. Pretty sure I picked up these odds at Bally's in Las Vegas.

    Bally's is not in Las Vegas, it is in Paradise Township. None of the Strip hotels, except for the Stratosphere, are in Las Vegas.

  2. As luck would have it I will be in the Cities this weekend.

    Gotta full schedule

    Bucky at SCSU on Friday(if I get out of town early enough)

    UND at UMD at Senser's Saturday afternoon

    Benefit at Ogara's garage saturday night for some great music

    http://www.withonebreath.org/withonebreath.html

    UND at UMD at Senser's on Sunday afternoon

    Kings at Wild sunday night

    Alary's for a couple

    Poker at Canterbury on Monday, then back home.

    O'Gara's not Ogara's. If you are in the cities may I suggest two dining options. The 128Cafe in St. Paul or Al Ventos in Minneapolis.

  3. Sorry, I'm not prepared to totally believe your guy without a great deal of research. He may be right (which would make many others wrong). Or he may be interpreting facts and situations in a different way. I read several books on the topic when I was younger and all point to some form of organization that was used to police the mob. They didn't call themselves Murder, Inc., that was a media nametag. And they didn't just sit around waiting for assignments. They were also involved in other illegal activities from gambling to prostitution to rum running, etc. Some even had cover jobs with "legit" companies. But I have a hard time just dismissing the entire history of testimony and convictions from the late 30s and early 40s. It seems pretty obvious that several people were involved in multiple killings over that period. This site contains some reputed FBI files on the subject.

    Ben "Bugsy" Siegel and Meyer Lansky were friends, as were Lansky and Salvatore Lucania who was better known as Charlie "Lucky" Luciano. Several other sources talk about murder for hire being part of the Seigel-Lansky organization for many years before the start of Murder Inc. Seigel was kind of a loose cannon, which is probably at least part of why he ended up on the West Coast. When Seigel was trying to open the Mob's first casino resort in Las Vegas, the Flamingo, it was his friend Meyer Lansky that held off unhappy "investors" for quite a while. They weren't happy that he was so far over budget and that the casino did not make a lot of money for them right away (it actually lost money for a couple of months). Seigel was killed a few months later.

    Bugsy muscled his way into the Flamingo, construction had already been started. Check out Capeci's website he is by far the most astute writer on the subject. You are right that they were involved in numerous other rackets and by saying Murder Inc. was a media and prosecutors name is why I said Murder Inc. was a myth. They could not whack anyone until they made sure they did not step on the wrong toes and get themselves killed. So simply by what you just said proved what I said.

  4. Would you prefer Encyclopedia Britannica as a source. Or how about this source. Or maybe this one. Or one more. Murder Inc was as much a myth as the Cosa Nostra themselves.

    Wikipedia is not always reliable, but this time they were pretty accurate. And they were the most convenient.

    Saying that Bugsy Siegle and Meyer Lansky ran a murder for hire racket totally debunks Brittnica as a source. Lansky was very tight with Charles Luciano. Your sources repeated the same old myths. Check my links out for accuracy. Capeci has written numerous books on LCN and a weekly article.

  5. How do you figure Murder, Inc. was a myth? The sources quoted in the Wiki article are valid news accounts.

    Check out Jerry Capeci's http://www.ganglandnews.com/ or his book Mafiaguide for Idiots. The myth behind Murder Inc. is debunked along with the Night of Sicilian Vespers.

    Links:

    http://www.ganglandnews.com/column51.htm

    http://www.ganglandnews.com/column112.htm

    http://www.ganglandnews.com/column76.htm

    http://www.ganglandnews.com/column63.htm

    "Valid news accounts" based on old myths.

  6. UND students are affected by the decisions of local leaders almost every day. It's more than just property and sales taxes. It wasn't too long ago that a large number of UND students were excluded from available housing due to a zoning decision by the Grand Forks City council. Many live in GF year round and determining their residence based upon their driver's license is pretty arbitrary.

    Regarding this issue and others, there needs to be a change in attitude by many GF residents. GF should be looking for ways to make their community more attractive to the students who attend UND in the hopes that some may choose to stay there after graduation. In order to do this GF leaders and citizens need to reconsider how they treat students. Local leaders and citizens always talk about how they want young people to move to the city to build families and start careers, yet when they have thousands of young people living in GF they treat them like second class citizens. It shouldn't take much to figure out that every student you screw over when it comes to housing, wages, party fines, towing, etc. will be another student who jumps at the first ticket to Fargo or Minneapolis when they finish their degree.

    So you want to live next to a party house? When the kids whined about this all you had to ask them was, "In twenty years when you have to get up for work and get the kids ready for school would you have wanted yourself as a neighbor? Or would your parents want you for a neighbor right now?" The answer would be no.

  7. This is just crazy. Not very many people establish permanent residency in GF but live here year round and are affected by decisions. Yet they shouldn't be able to vote? I can see your point if you were talking about kids in the dorms but if you are renting a house or an apartment, even for only 9 months, you have just as much right as anyone else. I live here year round but I am not about to go transfer my adress to GF just to move it to another city after I finish school. Yet I will still be affectd by new laws so why not vote?

    Where is the difference in living in a dorm or an apartment?

  8. I don't really care where the students vote as long as they vote only once. If they choose Grand Forks as their residence while they are going to school at UND, they should vote in Grand Forks. If they don't, then they should vote at home.

    That is the problem. They have not choosen it as their residence. If they have a Grand Forks address on their licenses fine otherwise no. They think they should have a seat on the city council then we should have a seat in student government.

  9. The students live in Grand Forks for at least 9 months out of the year and are affected by the decisions these lawmakers make. I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be able to vote.

    Try around 8 months and they are only visiting because where do they go on weekends? What is that word they use? Home. Tell me what the city does that really affects them? Sales taxes? Big deal we all pay sales taxes in places we do not call home. Rent a car in Boston and pay almost 40% in taxes. Shop in Hennepin County and help pay for a new Twins stadium for a Carl. Rent a hotel room in Las Vgeas and see how much you pay in taxes. All issues that you and I did not vote on but pay. This happens all around the country. I own land in Nelson County and pay taxes but I do not get to vote on how they are spent.

  10. My home is in Fargo but I go to school in Minneapolis...along with many of my Wisconsinite friends, we are planning on voting here in Minnesota. It's our residence over half the year and this is wear we are living...

    Do you have a Minnesota drivers license or a ND one still? If not then why do you not change your residence to Minnesota? People spend over half a year in Az. or at the lake and do not vote there. What is your legal residence?

  11. Does anyone think that students should vote in local elections? The argument by some is that they spend money here. Well how many people pay a lot of money for property taxes on their lake homes or vaction homes in Arizona and do not vote in those locations because it is not their permanent home. If they have a Grand Forks address on their drivers license ok, but if not I do not think they should get to vote.

  12. Shoot. I got trumped by the old "you put your observations on-line" thing. :D :D :)

    I hope you're right, but the financing methodology to date appears haphazard. You'd figure Ace Brandt (a fairly well to do man with wealthy family) would be able to better line up financing on this scale of project. I don't recall Kevin Christiansen and his team having these issues in developing the Osgood area (and golf course) of Fargo.

    Divorcing Ron Offuts daughter lost him his financial backing I heard. No RDO assests to back loans no longer.

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