hermit
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You have got to be kidding. Whoever buys this bike will for sure be a Sioux fan, and will keep it as is, or make it better.
Don't hold your breath on that one. He is not going to get that much for it I bet. Very small market for it. People that buy these pieces of crap want their own design. Real riders would not be caught dead on it. Maybe a mid-lifr crisis Harley rider would buy it so that they could crash it like so many of them do.
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It is the same thing. Answer the rest of the question as well. You left out some of it. Do you know why Bismarck, ND was named Bismarck? Because they wanted to entice German investment to come there. In other words, to "pump it up". How about the Trojans and USC? How about the city of George, Washington? Again, should the first president's family be able to force that city and the state it is in to change their names? For that matter, should North Dakota have to change its name? How about Sioux Falls and Sioux City? How about Sioux Tools? Why is it Irish people don't have a problem with Notre Dame? The Green Bay Packers? After all, packers is a nickname for a group of people. Same with the Purdue Boilermakers. How about the New Orleans Saints? I am devoutly Catholic. But I realize it would be stupid and insane to protest New Orleans' use of the name "Saints". The same can be said of St. Paul, Minnesota.
Sports teams, Cities, and Companies are named for something people are proud of and want to support and that means something to the supporters. No one names a company, city or sports team, or etc for something disgraceful or something no one wants to support. No one would name their teams, company, or etc. Idiots Inc. or Fighting Dummies.
What it comes down to is the Natives are on a strictly political agenda.
Why do you ask when Lakota/Dakota people first moved to the Devils Lake region? It has nothing to do with the debate.
It has much too do with the debate. Your arguement is that you are honoring the Native Americans of the state so how long have they been in the state? The rest of your arguement does not wash. Your comparing apples to oranges.
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There has not been a decent Harley made since the Shovelhead. Whoever buys it will either strip it down for parts or repaint it. Best Harley made was the Panhead followed by the Knucklehead then by the Flathead.
http://www.hydra-glide.com/ All can be found here.
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Either way hermit how did you take that as firing?
Like the article said, "Read between the lines."
"Hearing Mike Guentzel's reasons for resigning after 14 years as assistant coach of the Gophers men's hockey team, you would believe he has simply done it long enough. However, reading between the lines, you might conclude that leaving wasn't entirely his idea.
Guentzel said he met with coach Don Lucia in the middle of the week, "and this was the decision that was made that was best for me and everybody else."
He does not say he made the decision. If he had made the decision himself he would have said that he decided it was time.
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Can we say groupthink?
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This is where I got that he was fired from: http://www.twincities.com//ci_8980001?IADI....twincities.com
The Pioneer Press writes it a little different than the Trib did.
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How do you know that the new is a 'see and be seen social event' if you don't go to games there?
Because I know a lot of the crowd that does this. Also from what I have heard from "real" long time fans, the ones who have had season tickets for 30 years.
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Why more road games than home games?
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That is nonsense. Like has been posted, it is in the public domain. How about the "Dakota" in the state's name? How about Washington State? If the decedents of George Washington don't like the state being named for him, should they be able to force a change? How about the city of New Germany Minnesota? Should Germans or people with German ancestry (my family) be able to force a change? How about the USC Trojans? Should they have to change their nickname becuase there are no Trojans left to ask how they feel about the name and hence forth we don't know if it is approved or not?
This is not even close to being the same thing. You can try and spin it around all you want but it still does not work. When was the name Germany used for the country anyhow? A little over a hundred years? Using a name as a name for something is not the same as using an ethnic group to try and pump your sports teams up. Exactly when was it that the Lakota/Dakota people first moved to the Devils Lake region and why?
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hermit, you have yet to answer my question.
What even is your question?
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I can see the side of the argument that says "Sioux" is the name of their people and so others don't have the right to use. I don't necessarily agree completely with the statement, but I can understand that side of the argument.
That said, hermit, you are wrong. UND was given permission to use the name long ago. UND has used that name for a very long time, and now it has become UND's identity, at least from an athletic and nickname perspective. UND has every right to use that.
A somewhat reasonable compromise has been reached on the public opinion impass, and that is to allow the Tribes to decide if they will allow UND to continue to use the nickname or not. The largest difference of opinion now is whether that decision should be left up to a few in the Tribal Councils who may have their own personal agendas, or whether that opinion should be decided by a vote of the Tribes at large.
I think any other argument about the meaning of the word Sioux being derogatory is moot considering the Tribes have used that name for so long themselves. Any argument that says UND doesn't have the right to use the name is also moot, being it was given to UND to use.
The only argument is whether or not it is acceptable for that name to be removed by forces outside of UND decades after UND began to use it and received permission to do so.
The big ceremony that you alledge gave the university the right to the name was one guy who was only a member of the Standing Rock Tribe. When did UND start using the name and logo?
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I just assumed that hermit would never set foot in the new Ralph with all the hostile and abusive logos and being named after a former mobster and all. I assume you are speaking only about your view from protesting in front of the building right herme?? Or do you forget your moral stance when your sucking back a beer and eating a pretzel in your nice comfy leather seat.
You are right I will not go to any games there.
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I'll try a third time, hermit. Here's my question.
If they chose to use the name that is their right. You just made the point for me. If the Native Americans wish to use the names of either Indians, Warriors, or whatever that is their right becaue it is who they are or were. Where as since you are not members of the Lakota or Dakota Nations then you do not have the right to use their name because it does not belong to you. You people are members of the Fighting Sioux Tribe which is not a recognized tribe by the Federal Government. I do not see you tribe at the Pow Wow this week. My error for equating people here with midgets. I put down the midgets who are on a higher evolutionary scale then you people. At least they have cognitive abilities. It is normal for people like you to put what they do not wish to hear on ignore. Head up the as& is easier to deal with than reality. When cherished values are threatened find a scapegoat to blame.
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Answer the question, momo.
What is the question? It is very hard to understand a batch of mental midgets.
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Marshall and Johnnie were out of Vegas when Ralph built the casino. Then how did Ralph keep the union out?Yes we have all seen Casino! Spilotro (or should we say Nicky Santoro) was an enforcer, but you have the wrong names. Caifano and Roselli are the guys you want with the direct ties. Spilotro started at Circus Circus and then moved to the Stardust (He and that punk Sinatra still owe me 20 large). Being a partner of a mob lawyer means nothing in your argument.....do think the mob isn't in your back yard? I am surprised you didn't name drop the fact that Ralph was also friends with Momo and Auippa! Why not also list the "capos" instead of the "hammers"? -
Which arena had a better atmosphere the old or the new? I much prefer the old because it was not such a see and be seen social event like the new.
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Jon Hoff? You sound just like him with the garbage you are spewing.
What do you call someone who has Hitler birthday parties and a portrait painted of himself as an SS officer? The Gaming Commission had only given out one fine before Uncle Ralphies that was larger, that was to the Stardust for letting the Chicago Outfit skim the joint. How did he keep a union controlled by Chicago out when no one else could? The Gaming Commission called his collection the "War Room". Stevie Bluestein was a main business agent organizer at the time and he was also part of Tony Spilotro's crew out of Chicago. The president of the union got killed over not paying the bombers that he had bombing restaurants around the valley for not organizing. So then why was Uncle Ralphie allowed to be non-union? What about Uncle Ralphies partnership with a mob lawyer in Apex?
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Why don't you explain it to me then.
I made the point that the names "dagos", "wops", etc are not the same as the name "Sioux".
Why don't you offer an explanation that shows that they are the same, then?
Go into Bensonhurst and start calling people dagos or wops and see how fast you get your as% kicked. The pure Italians that I know hate those names because they are deragatory. Also no instructors have taught me that the name is wrong, it is never even brought up in classes. I do not go through life with my hood on backwards. I have been watching UND hockey for longer than probably 90% of you and most likely have known more players on a personal level than any of you. I think Uncle Ralphie was a racist Nazi and the best front the Chicago Outfit ever had in Las Vegas. Those Hitler parties were not spoofs. I knew about them back in '86. He was very lucky to not have lost his license but I suppose crawling on your knees to the Gaming Com. did not hurt.
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If the Natives are all right with using the name "Sioux", then it should be alright for other people to use then name. Otherwise, it is a double standard.
It is their right to use the name, UND does not have that right.
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That dog doesn't hunt because Sioux is the name they've used for a very long time. It's a little different than the examples you offer.
Spin all you want there is no difference that an educated person could see.
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I guess when the Sioux stop calling themselves "Sioux" I'll understand. I guess when the tribes take the "sioux" out of their casinos and the images off of the casinos, I'll understand. The double standard is something that is not understood and it should not be understood because it does not make any sense at all. And lumping "Fighting Sioux" in with the other words you brought out only adds to the lack of sense.
No you will not. Your argument lacks total merit. The dominant group can never understand the minority group nor do they care what the minority group thinks or feels. Do people of Polish decent like being called dumb fuc*ing Polacks? Do Irish like being called Micks? Do French like being called Frogs? It does not make sense because you choose for it not to make sense. This will probably get me banned from these boards because I have found if you are against the logo you can be banned. I love how a public forum can be created but don't go against the tide because we don't want that so you are banned. We only want one opinion shared here, ours.
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ASU Announces New Nickname and Logo
I especially liked this part:
Isn't being chosen as a nickname and logo for a university a source of great embarrassment and humiliation? Why is ASU choosing to 'honor' the red wolf?
Should we call all Italians Wops, Guinies(sp?) Greaseballs, Dagos, you will never understand.
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Zombo over Parent. Can't dismiss Kidder.....
Problem with Kidder is he always forgot that he played defense and not forward.
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Why don't you guys pay the universities strong arm rates and get good seats then?