gopherz
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Bingo! Just because you have money doesn't mean you have success. OSU and PSU was the exact comparison I was thinking. I don't see a BTHC anytime soon, if at all. Minnesota has a large percentage of the viewership of the BTN. Minnesota has no rivalry with MSU and OSU really in any sport. Michigan in hockey only. What does it gain? Nothing. If the football and basketball programs become more successful, you may see those rivalry's built. If the BTN want's to make money, they tap into more games of the CCHA and the WCHA. If I were the head of the BTN, my #1 priority would be to add the Final Five and CCHA tourney's to my offering. HD hockey is amazing and the WCHA's fan base mostly resides in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Colorado. CCHA is Michigan and Ohio. FSN is owned by the same company as BTN and the scheduling is easy. Show the Hockey Showcase, any "Big Ten" team match-ups and any Wisco, Denver and Minnesota games because you have the talent under contract wit FSN already. The issue and school that I see is the FSSN and UND. I would think the BTN would treat them poorly because they don't work with the BTN or FSN. I would like that issue resolved as a priority.
Not rivals with those schools? You are a fool.
If I were the BTN I would definitely want to push for a hockey conference. Besides, HD hockey is awesome. As for the Gophers losing money from FSN, that could still be part of the deal, especially since BTN probably wouldn't pick up all games. FSN is essentially = BTN when it comes to money, as FSN owns the majority of BTN.
No one was saying that money equaled success, I don't know where you got that from. It's more like the tradition of the University as a whole, and success in other big time sports would allow them to be successful. The Big 10 conference would instantly be a powerhouse and give schools like OSU and PSU a big jump in recruiting power. It would be like the top teams in the WCHA basically, except the market for all of those schools is huge. You wouldn't find games not selling out.
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The BIG difference in that comparison is that Ohio State did not have the benefit of a Big Ten hockey conference. Penn State would.
The tradition of smaller schools would be no match for the lure of the big names and television exposure of a Big Ten hockey conference team. I agree with Gopherz that it would not take long at all and Penn State would be recruiting better than most schools in the WCHA. The reality is that the Big Ten conference would immediately become THE conference in the west.
Exactly. I forgot to talk about the Big 10 Network and how successful that has been as of late. The allure of every game being televised on a great network would be huge and would help PSU get off it's feet faster than anyone would think. B10 would be a powerhouse.
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penn state will be able to build it for sure. no doubt but just would take a while.
Oh absolutely. But you'd have to think their first recruiting classes would already be better than those that BSU/MSU/SCSU brings in, or at least close. It wouldn't be long at all, PSU is big time in everything else, I don't see why hockey wouldn't come FAST
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i wouldnt waste my time going to cc unless you keep going right on to good ol scottsdale. if not, watch on tv
I probably wouldn't go to CC. I'm hoping we have a home series, then I can just use my tickets, but that's looking like a little bit of a stretch right now. I'm hoping for series here in Minneapolis, then flight to Phoenix
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greeat, we know minny has a nie hockey history. who cares. i was referring to other schools with history like minny are the sioux, bc, bu, michigan ect....i wasnt comparing umtc history to bsu/scsu/msu. i simply was saying they can hang with any team now and beat any wcha on any given night. thats all. it would take penn state years to establish a solid program to compete at a level with minny and sioux or uw. years.
I didn't say UMN was better, that wasn't the argument. I'm saying the history of Penn State (not hockey), would be a much bigger draw then the hockey history of programs that really have none to speak of. I'm also not saying they can't hang with any team, they can. Kind of playing devils advocate here because a change would be a pain, but at the same time it would be kind of cool. The revenue a B10 hockey conference would get would be unbelivable.
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chances are it will be close to you (scsu/msu) unless its cc which could happen. i think cc and umtc could batle for that 5/6 spot
That's why I said I'd go
If it was CC, it would be hard to justify that. That is my first weekend of the two for spring break, so a little travel wouldn't hurt but I'll probably be headed down to Scottsdale right after the series. -
so you want to be in conferences that have history only? yeah like any new big10 teams would have any history. you think a kid is gona go to penn state with no history right away? it would take a long time my friend. not overnite so yes a kid would go to those schools with history for now until new teams can create their programs which would take a nice chunk of years to do. i never said they wouldnt catch up but like ive said it would take a while. of course the gophers have a nice hockey history but there is a nice group of schools out there that have it as well east and west
The history of the University itself would much outweigh the hockey "history" at a school like BSU/SCSU/MSU-M. You seriously think the "history" of those 3 schools is anything to call home about? Absolutely not. It would be hard to turn down a school with the caliber of Penn State, hockey withstanding, especially in comparison to BSU/SCSU/MSU-M. Now if you're talking UND or something, of course the history of the Sioux would outweigh anything Penn State has to offer because that history is so deep and impressive.
Obviously there's no way to know for sure, but I can't see many people going to BSU/SCSU/MSUM or whatever over PSU. Besides, if a B10 conference forms, the competition would be just as much, probably more, than the WCHA minus UMN and UW.
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the no name universities that beat the gophers? those no namers that you guys give up 5 goals a game to? cool. yeah i forgot everyone should bow down to the gophers and their history
you have no sense of history ot knowledge of the wcha with a comment like that. hilarious
please, the all mighty M rises again
like penn state and others could hold a candle to even scsu/msu/bsu ect..... in recruiting or playing for at least 6-10 years
Just because they've beat us, doesn't mean they aren't no name universities. I never once said that anyone should bow down to the Gophers, but to say many schools have the history of the University of Minnesota would just be foolish.
How do I have no sense of knowledge of history of the WCHA with that comment? Just because I wouldn't personally care if we left some of those teams behind doesn't mean it wouldn't be leaving history behind. I'd just rather play Big 10 teams, that's all. The WCHA would be very missed because of it's history, but it might be all for good in the long run.
Penn State would easily catch up to schools like SCUS/MSU/BSU, who do you think kids would rather play for? Penn State in the Big 10, or Bemidji/MSU/SCSU? I'd take the Big 10 and a much more sought after education.
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yeah and im sure every single sioux fan lives in grand forks
on the blogs, brads blog is by far the best out there and awesome what he does info wise for sioux hockey. hes original and easily the best college hockey coverage in the nation for a college hockey team.
And he lives in Grand Forks. My point exactly
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I'd much rather be in the Big 10 conference and play big teams like that as compared to no name universities. I'd miss playing UND but that's really about it.
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There's nothing else to do in Grand Forks...
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The Gophers will be there. I'll go to wherever our first round games are and guarantee that.
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I thought UAA wouldn't get a point this weekend against UMN and they did.
Maybe it is because they sold UAA short for a game.
Sounds like you're selling CC short. I hope UMN doesn't do the same.
I'm not selling CC short as much as I am thinking how desperate our team is for a sweep.
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No, I didn't watch the games. I don't think they were televised were they? Oh well.
In any case, I thought UAA played the Gophers pretty good on Friday, did they not? Weak goals or not, it's what happened.
CC played DU pretty well as well and DU is a better team than UMN (even though DU has twice the hacks UMN does).
I really don't think UMN will sweep.
Every single Gopher game is televised.
They played us okay on Friday, but they play a lot of teams decent one night and tend to pull off a tie or win.
I don't doubt they played DU well, but I think these games mean so much more to us that we just won't lose. Agree to disagree, and we'll see.
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gopherz- Your predictions are ok, but I'm not going to buy into the UMN/CC tilt.
It will NOT be a sweep. CC will take at least one of the games. They did play pretty well against DU and UMN's defense barely escaped UAA.
CC has to be the biggest underachiever this year and, thus, one of the top disappointments in college hockey. However, UMN's slide is astounding. It's to the point where, if things don't improve and Kangas has the "right" temperment, Kangas might bolt out of frustration more than anything.
In any case, UMN will eke out 2 points next weekend. I'm willing to bet that it goes similar to this weekend. CC takes Friday and UMN takes Saturday... but this time UMN wins in OT. For a wild hare, I'll say the GWG in OT comes after some CC player makes an absolutely idiotic play on a Gopher and gets called for a penalty. The Gophers bury the PP chance and that's it.
Our defense barely escaped AA? I thought our defense played decent actually, did you watch? AA's goals were weakkkk. That being said, if Kangas steps it up back to early season form, I see no reason that we wouldn't sweep CC. CC has been a huge disappointment all season, whereas we have just been bad as of late, but still show occasional bursts of being great.
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Far be it from me to stick up for Kangas or a Gophers player, however, I would put the blame on the road cones/pylons in the Gophers defense corps. If your defense fails to do it's job eventually it comes back to bite them. I think Patterson would get shelled just as bad as Kangas against MSU-M, UND and Wisconsin.
Everyone loves the Back up goalie until he goes in and proves the fans wrong. I would be willing to bet you that if Patterson was in net against the Sioux he still gives up a bunch of goals as well.
Oh absolutely, I agree with you 100 percent. If you put him in against the Sioux, he gives up just as many (probably more) goals. But that's not the games I'm talking about. I totally agree those were due to traffic cone defenders and some of the most breakaways I've ever seen. I'll blame defense for the high goal totals in the UND and Mankato series. But Wisconsin (and even AA) fall on Kangas. Although he didn't give up a ton of goals, the ones he did were TERRIBLE. Both last night and the night before were very nonchalant. The one yesterday where he got beat short side was horrific. He has been playing terrible as of late.
By the way, when Patterson has been in against those teams, he has done quite well. Kangas just seems to be in some type of mental funk, making ridiculous mistakes that no Division 1 goalie should ever make. The D has been better these last 2 series and we've been getting more scoring opportunities, even though, I know, we only have 3 points the last 2 weekends.
That being said, if the D continues to improve and Kangas gets his head on straight, I see no reason why this team can't return to early season form and make a serious run. It can really go either way, who knows, that's the beauty of it!
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2 UND slaughters this weekend.
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Friday
Denver at Wisconsin
North Dakota at Alaska-Anchorage
Minnesota-Duluth at Michigan Tech
Minnesota at Colorado College
Saturday
Denver at Wisconsin
North Dakota at Alaska-Anchorage
Minnesota-Duluth at Michigan Tech
Minnesota at Colorado College
4 sweeps this weekend, I know it's not likely but we'll see how it goes:
DU @ Wisconsin - The BADgers are in desperation mode and will be tough to beat at home. DU just hasn't proved a whole lot to me lately, and Connelly has shown that he can steal a game or two (see: Minnesota series). BADgers eek out a win on Friday, and ROLL Saturday.
UND @ AA - AA is not good, not good at all. Taking 3 points from them this weekend was embarrassing, the goals they scored were nothing to call home about. Sioux continue to roll (that hurts to say) and take care of AA EASILY both nights, allowing only 2 goals on the weekend and scoring upwards of 6 or 7
UMD @ Tech - I'll never predict Tech to beat or tie anyone, so that's how it's going to have to happen.
finally...
Minnesota @ CC - This is the week KANGAS gets back on track. Although he let in some horrible goals this weekend, at least he didn't give up 6+ per night, which should have helped his confidence a little bit you'd think. I'm putting CC in self-destruct mode and the Gophers in desperation mode. I see 2 BIG wins for us this weekend, Kangas allowing no more than 2 goals per game and Schroeder having another huge weekend.
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3 weeks left
AZSIOUX 31
gopherz 25
Nice work. We going to do the WCHA tourney/F5 too? That'd be a nice touch.
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Lucky for the Gophers.
No doubt. Another horrible game for Kangas and we got the win. We won't be going anywhere if he continues this play, maybe make the tournament and if so, 1 and done. Now if he goes back to early season form....watch out
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Tough thing to happen, get well soon man.
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if they are top 14 or win the final they will, if not then its golfing time. if they lose tonight they could sink even further down vs a fiesty uaa team
with this system the get the gophers in the tourney theory wont work
so they will put the sioux there knowing grand forks and surrounding areaa will shut dow for the weekend and pack the X 
If it started today I don't think there's any way they put the Sioux here in Minneapolis, since we would be here.
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HE damnit.
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so when do you leave for Pennsylvania?
I wish I could.
Ovechin's goal
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HD does it justice...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PQwsvFWaXk