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True, but I think you also need to consider the level of competition within Canada for players from the Manitoba-Saskatchewan "hockey factory." I doubt that many of them grow up with the dream of playing for UND.

I thought that was obvious. Oh well...

It is possible to measure what was promised against what was achieved, analyze whether the goals set were actually met and determine whether the expectations raised ever came to fruition. I'm sure some of that went into the NCAA study on

I agree. It's water under the bridge, and it's not as if one different defenseman would have changed the way Team USA played at the WJC.

That's different. They will be hanging on him out of love and respect.

That too.

I entered the discussion not having an opinion one way or the other. Canuck provided concrete facts to back up his opinion that there is no Canadian WJC conspiracy against NCAA hockey players. The only thing the conspiracy theorists can provide is a quote from an anonmymous person. From my perspective, Canuck has made a strong case for his position while the conspiracy theorists haven't.

Plus, as Garrison Diversion and the Devils Lake outlet prove, any time you start considering the idea of moving water from one drainage basin into another, you're going to trigger a huge fight over environmental issues.

Neither is this:

That was his point. It doesn't prove anything, other than that one anonymous person somewhere in Canada has it in for NCAA hockey players. What a shock. It wasn't long ago that some American universities refused to recruit Canadians and looked down their noses at schools that did. Canuck provided some solid facts on how many NCAA players have been on Canadian WJC teams. So who are you going to believe? An uninformed opinion or an informed opinion? I'll take informed opinion every time. It's also obvious that some people aren't going to let facts interfere with their perception of reality.

Lennon is a great coach and an enormous asset to UND athletics. However, moving from DII to DI-AA in the hope that it will help UND retain a good coach is silly.

Hey! Umm...no comment.

As has been discussed here many, many times, it isn't going to happen as long as UND is DII and NDSU is DI-AA. As has been discussed here many, many times, playing NDSU hurts UNDs post-season playoff chances. Yes, but it's a moot point.

It's about having a vision of the type of school you want your university to be and following a strategy that gets you there.

This always bothers me. One person makes a statement and it's instantly assumed that it reflects what everyone thinks. Without attribution, we have no idea whether the statement reflects one person's opinion or the mainstream thinking of highly influential people in Canadian hockey. Just because someone said it and someone printed it doesn't make it so.

Never heard of 'em.

Bell? The choir needs more cowbell? Consider it done.

It's one thing to choose not to have an avatar and another thing to have a red X show up where you intend to have an avatar.

Thanks for the gross oversimplification of the issue.

Huh? Did you happen to notice that none of the posts you're quoting were written by RD17?

Given the NHL's resistance changing anything that alters its own macho image of itself, probably not. How marketable are players when they're out for weeks or months at a time with eye or other facial injuries? How marketable are players whose careers are cut short because of a stick to the eye or a slapshot to the face? It seems to me that the most marketable players are those who have long and productive careers. And how is it that the trend in the NFL has been toward increased face and eye protection for its players without hurting their marketability? I don't buy that reasoning. Then again, I don't buy a lot of the NHL's reasoning for doing what it does. I agree. If you're going to make such controversial statements, you better be prepared to live with the consequences and not blame others for how they're portrayed.

Your ire is misdirected, Tony. It's the NCAA you should be upset with for making such statements as:

Up until this summer, central and western North Dakota and South Dakota had been facing drought conditions for the past few years. I was shocked to see how low the Garrison and Oahe reservoirs were when I took a trip out west last fall.