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Enough already. You've made your point. You think peoples' religious beliefs -- especially those with Christian beliefs -- should play no role in determining government policies. You are a religious bigot. I get it.

So your solution is to deny Christians who disagree with your political positions their First Amendment rights?

Wow. This has been a horrible half for the Sioux.

I sincerely doubt it. I think you need to stop using your magnifying glass to look for possible slivers of light coming under your precious wall between church and state and pay a bit more attention to the real threats from real religious fundamentalists who have demonstrated exactly what they can and will do given the opportunity.

Thanks for the link, YaneA. The parts I found most interesting as they relate to UND and the NCAA come from Justice Hoffman's concurring opinion:

From the St. Paul Pioneer Press: Rodriguez faces long road to execution

Already posted and being discussed here.

I agree. I don't know Kupchella well, either, and don't pretend to. But unlike "aff," I have at least talked to him and others in UND's administration working on the DI move. And while I'm still not totally convinced that the move is necessary, I am confident there's no way Kupchella would allow it to happen without all the bases being covered. That's just not the way he works. I take what I know for certain, what can be inferred from particular events and combine them with what I know about the people making the decisions. I add 2 and 2 to get 4. Some Bison fans and "aff" take 2 + 2 and come up with 666 as their answer. They damage their own credibility by ranting about Kupchella and claiming that he's leading UND to financial ruin.

Here. He's gonna be a sniper.

Don't go there! Oh. You didn't. Never mind.

Have you ever talked to the man? Or do you just read his mind?

You're still wrong. In fact, you're not even close.

Do you mean he was stuck in a net or was he playing the position of goalie?

And then there are the Weston Dresslers of the world who was a "true freshman."

Don't pat yourself on the back too much there, Roy. You might dislocate your shoulder.

Or be a complete hyporcrite, which seems obvious in this instance.

As far as I can tell, the same place it was when NDSU announced its move. As I said, you don't know the man. I'm not pretending to be any sort of expert on him, either, but it should be clear by now that many Bison fans have misjudged Kupchella and continue to do so.

That's what I'm talkin' about!

And that's where I call bovine scatology. There's nothing remotely similar in the two ideologies or their approaches. The main reason that Christian extremists in the U.S. will never, ever catch up to their Muslim counterparts is that A) they don't have the support of the mainstream Christian religious community and B) our government will break them up if they use or promote violence. The exact opposite is true in Middle Eastern countries in which religious extremist ideologies are not only the norm, they're supported and protected by national governments. That is a vast and important difference. I'm not saying that there's no chance Christian extremists will ever resort to violence because they obviously have at times. But whenever that's happened, they've been hunted down and thrown in jail or killed. So, by all means, keep an eye on the Jesus camps, and if they break the law, punish them for it. I have absolutely no problem with that. Just don't expect me to believe that they're the moral equivalent of al Qaeda, Hamas, Islamic Jihad or Hezbollah.

What's amusing about Bison fans' great concern for UND's finances is that after NDSU announced its intention to move to DI, Sioux fans were asking the same types of questions and expressing similar concerns about NDSU. Some of us even attempted to prod the Fargo media into investigating where the money to cover NDSU's increased DI expenses would come from. Were our questions ever answered? No. Were our concerns ever addressed? Indirectly, yes. NDSU has made the move without falling into financial ruin. Obviously, NDSU found or raised the money before it made the move. It just hasn't had any great desire to reveal where the additional funding came from. Now that UND has announced its intention to move to DI, some Bison fans are acting just like Sioux fans were a few years ago. The big difference is that fans of both schools now have the benefit of NDSU's experience. But instead of looking at that experience and saying, "If NDSU can come up with the funding, then UND can, too," certain Bison fans simply assume there's no possible way that UND ever can do what NDSU did. They assume that the amount of money coming into UND athletics at this moment can never be increased. So thanks for your concern, Bison fans. I'm sure UND will find some way to muddle its way through to DI. After all, NDSU did.

If you think Kupchella would allow that to happen to UND, then you know absolutely nothing about the man.

I'll bet you do.

Yep. This part of the ABC article gave it away: So now who's espousing the "us against them" ideology? Ms. Sandler seems to believe that teaching young people anything that doesn't agree with her political views is harmful. Sadly, I know from recent experience that her viewpoint is all too prevalent in academia. That

Let me make something clear: If the accounts of the "Jesus camp" are accurate (and even the ABC story notes that not everyone agrees they are), then I don't approve of how the children are being indoctrinated. Nor do I approve of parents who send their children to such a place. However, the idea that this type of thinking represents mainstream Christianity in the U.S. is ludicrous, as is the idea that these groups are a greater threat to the nation than Muslim fundamentalist extremists. I say this as someone raised as a Christian who now considers himself an agnostic (for lack of a better term). So what do those who are horrified by this camp propose to do? Toss out the First Amendment and bring Janet Reno out of retirement?

Thanks for the link. It brought back memories. Brandon always gave great post-game interviews.