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23 minutes ago, fargosioux said:
"all ultimately ended up in disappointment". This is just me but there's no difference whether the disappointment happened in the Frozen Four or earlier. You seem to be putting lots of stock in Frozen Four appearances and NCAA tournament wins. I'm not sure I agree. Personally for me, the barometer is winning national titles. Everything else is secondary. Honest question .. would you rather have your team have won a title 8 years ago with little postseason success since, or be like our friends to the East who have several NCAA tournament wins and some Frozen Four appearances over the past several years, but haven't hung an NCAA banner in over 20 years.
So why not go a step further and miss the post season all together and just win every ten years or so. Don’t know if you understand how recruiting works, but great players tend to go to teams that are in the picture for national championships. Oh, and sometimes players stay another year to get it done when they seem so close to tasting it. Doesn’t seem so close to tasting it. I hope everyone stays, but I could see a few contemplate leaving. Wonder what Berg is thinking coming off a nice season.
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6 minutes ago, jk said:
Well, sometimes I think I was watching a different game. First, MI is really good. It's easy to see that their guys have that polish that points to an NHL future, just so fast and slick.
But I thought through two periods UND had played a terrific defensive game. Not perfect, because the other team is good too and will have its moments, but how often did you see a developing chance for MI get thwarted by a backcheck or a seam pass get deflected? And how many times was Ludwig asked to make an exceptional save? I'm thinking it was never. This was night and day different from the last game against Omaha, where Hobey faced so many great chances.
This'll be the more controversial part, but even when they got caved in to start the third, they actually still covered guys in the defensive zone and limited great chances. MI was going to push at some point, and they did, but the point is to survive those stretches until you can work out of it. MI's fourth goal was pretty, but their first three were hockey bounces, which UND got none of.
I thought UND played solid playoff hockey tonight and deserved a better fate. The whole "have to play sixty minutes" thing is a joke. What is that, you have to dominate the other team for sixty minutes? Momentum changes in hockey, sometimes you have it, sometimes the other guys do.
They got caved in by Denver in the semis in 2016 for the first 14 minutes of the third period, but they kept playing and came out the other side and eventually won. This team also turned the tide in the last third of the third, and had some terrific one-timer chances (that were better chances than almost anything MI had all game), but could not get them to go. The difference is that Denver didn't get a bunch of hockey bounces like MI did in this game.
So, to summarize, I disagree with many here and thought they showed up and played hard and well against a very good team. I was down on their recent performances, but felt like they really turned it around tonight. Despite that, it wasn't meant to be.
Michigan is good, which is why you needed to take care of business against Omaha and set yourself up in Sioux Falls. When you look at that graph and realize over a third of the teams in college hockey have as many or more tourney wins since 2017, it is a stark reality that despite many advantages, they have underachieved big time when it counts.
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1 minute ago, Cratter said:
Lesser talented teams have to "grind/cycle."
Skill Teams use skill and don't "grind," it would be a waste of talent.
You still need guys that are hard to play against and can wear the other team down. We have a few, but not many Rylan Kaip or Rory McMahon types. Even Minnesota figured that out.
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9 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:
Just saw a formal Und great tweet…you can’t “transfer” tradition
Was just going to say I have heard stories from people who are friends with former players say that the word is they think UND is a bit soft. Obviously teams like Omaha and CC have managed to grind it out against us, but we aren’t really even remotely able to grind it out and cycle the puck to wear the opposition down. That used to be a staple of our teams and “culture”.
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1 minute ago, scpa0305 said:
This is what I’ve been locking into. At this point it isn’t dumb (bad) luck. We have 1 NCAA win since 2016. That’s insane (for a program like ours).
Yes, and most of us that have been defending Berry have pointed out some unusual circumstances and nice performances and said we’ll see how he does next time, especially in the tournament when that has always been the point of contention. Well, this game they had a chance to win one period and move on.
Like I said, Berry knows the pressure that comes with coaching here, and he needs to own it, that they have peaked too early on many occasions and that his class management has been nothing short of horrible compared to Hakstol.
Thankfully, it looks like it should be back on track with a few guys playing an extra year of juniors, and not needing the portal as extensively this year, but he still needs to find a way where they are playing so good at the end of the year that they can roll through league playoffs and a realistic run at the National Championship.
We get that Berry is a players coach, but there needs to be more accountability and playing less favorites. Schmaltz playing in the last 3 minutes when you need a goal to tie seems a bit odd, considering his output.
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1 minute ago, cowboys5xsbs said:
Yet somehow its always us that gets paritied round 1. I wonder why that is. I could understand some 1st round losses but every year come on.....
But you weren’t scared of Michigan, because the Big Ten was overrated.
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Berry makes a ton of money, so he should be able to take the heat. Just repeating his mantra, to whom much is given, much is expected. Start living up to those expectations. Better yet, rework his contract based mostly on postseason success. Maybe he would figure out a way to motivate for a full 60 minutes.
Hate to post when this is so fresh, but something needs to change because you risk killing the golden goose, by getting fans to be less apt to attend special games when you are like 3-13 or so with Frozen Faceoffs, destination games and regionals. Actually, would like to know the actual stats for those, compared to Hakstol. I guess right now, I view our “culture” below several teams in our league, especially in compete and being tough to play against. That needs to change.
Hope they move regionals to campus sites, because UND should no longer be bidding for them with us missing so many close to home. Of course then we will never be a high seed again. -
Just now, scpa0305 said:
20-0 when leading after 2…insane (but super predictable) way to go out. We are the new gophs
When I saw that I knew it was inevitable they would lose.
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9 minutes ago, Username Taken said:
He also has a boat load of points. He’s high risk/high reward. If you ask him to stop taking chances, the points drop off. Let him play. He’ll likely make the hobey hat trick, so maybe find someone else to blame this on?
I would say this is the type of outcome you can expect part of the time if you want to play high risk at tourney time. Not exactly a recipe to win it all, taking risky chances you might win a few, but winning more may take high odds.
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Just now, dden3 said:
Refs are letting a lot of stuff go. Not the way these NCAA tournaments used to be. We usually have to tone things down to stay out of the box.
To be honest, I don’t know if was a hook or not, but would have liked to see a replay.
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20 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:
Hook?
Looked like Berry was trying to call the ref over to argue that Kunz was hooked. Can’t believe they don’t replay that on tv when it was a golden opportunity.
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1 minute ago, Wilbur said:
Wilbur's OT challenge.
Sparty: Red Savage
Western: Alex Bump
Wendt for Western, that’s it.
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3 minutes ago, brianvf said:
Man, not a single WMU player thought to cover front of net?
Bizarre!
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Well, so far not one of the teams I wanted yesterday won. For that matter, not one of the games at the "X" went the way I wanted either. Things gotta be better today, right?
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Did anyone watch the latest "Through these Doors"? UND didn't look too excited when they announced they would get Michigan in the tournament. Hope they play with more swagger than they showed in that clip. Of course, they probably weren't in a good mood to begin with, being they had lost to Omaha a few days earlier.
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Omaha 16-2 in one goal games coming in, and of course against the gophers they can’t hold on.
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So we have a guy fall causing a goal against Omaha right after we got back in it, now the same thing happens to Omaha. Why can’t that happen to teams I despise!
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Wonder if some of our advantage in depth is negated with all the tv timeouts. I sure would rather see Michigan’s 4th line more than their high end NHL draft picks. Let’s hope Ludvig is on, and Michigan’s goalie is off.
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3 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:
Yes I know you think everything is perfect and we are leadgies because we expect more from them , I don’t expect them to win every game but at least show up.
At least they didn't say they wanted revenge like they said they did against CC and then get blown out both nights. I will say that if you got swept by a team you have never been swept by before, I would think you would have a little desire to get back at them, especially when an advantageous tournament location is on the line.
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1 hour ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:
Michigan is loaded. If they show up to play, we’re probably screwed.
I would be more concerned about whether we show up. Michigan has a ton of talent, but they have lived off their power play. Stay out of the box, and take advantage of some of their youthful mistakes and this could be an entertaining game.
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I hate to say it, but I think with UND’s fall in seeding, we set Minnesota up to get to the Frozen Four in their back yard. Unlike UND, Minnesota will be ready for Omaha.
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5 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said:
Yes does michigan scare you?
Anyone that has a ton of NHL talent scares me. If we can give up 6 and 7 goals against performances against CC and Omaha, we can get lit up with the best power play unit of Michigan. Nobody was afraid of Notre Dame a couple years ago either.
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Just now, cowboys5xsbs said:
I like our draw. I think the big ten is overrated.
Really?
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So now UND is a heavy team. Do they just go by what they remember from past years?
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NCAA tilt: UND vs the Maize and Blue
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No problem, when I see someone that isn’t very educated I try to help out.