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Or around 2012 even if we're not in the same conference.

And I told you what I heard the terms where and what they needed to be and yet you still argued about it. Until both schools are ready to make it an annual game it won't be played. How are those for terms?

I'll tell you why, cause like I said the game is not going to be played one year and than take a year or two off. Its not "tough guy" talk its the truth. I'm just stating facts, the game was discussed and didn't work out. The game will likely happen in the future but not before everything is ironed out. Why must you argue every single thing anyone posts that doesn't agree with you? As much as you think your opinion is correct on every topic regarding Fighting Sioux athletics your way off on many of them.

Game's been discussed for next year and its not happening. Not happening until its an every year thing which is more than likely 2012.

Never said life was easy or the situation was easy. I was just correcting your post and providing you facts since you always ask for them. Every other university had to get approval from one tribe. NCAA required UND to get it from two.

No none of those schools have an issue with their respective TRIBE, UND already has approval from one tribe. The NCAA is forcing them to get it from two.

I don't think that anyone here is denying that hockey is a niche sport. Everyone knows it is. I think everyone is trying to get it through your and other Bison fans thick heads that having sporting events on a network that is broadcast nationwide is a huge deal. You guys can downplay it all you want but the bottom line is people can tune in and watch. Is it ESPN absolutely not but its still on. I have watched teams that I could absolutely give two shits about play on that channel so what makes you think that other sports fans don't do the same thing. What would you rather have and answer honest? One game in maybe four or five years on CBS where you happen to get beat? or A game every other weekend on a smaller nationwide channel thrown in with 2 or 3 appearance on ESPN or ESPN2 every five years? Both are pretty good but option 2 sounds a little better. And honestly, without looking it up tell me who Michigan St. lost to last year in the first round. Thats about how people outside of ND, SD, MN, and maybe NE remember NDSU. I'm not downplaying it at all and would love for UND to be in the same boat as I was actually at the Kansas-ndsu game last year but if your an underdog you better win a game or two to be remembered. If not your just another 15 or 16 seed.

Danno, if you walked into any sports bar or casino outside of the 3 state area this March on the opening day of the tournament and asked every person in the bar who Kansas beat in the opening round of the tournament last year how many do you think would answer correctly. After they got beat out NDSU was just another 15 seed to get knocked out of the tournament. To be remembered you gotta win a game or two or make it to the tournamet a few years in a row. Also, CBS shows a lot of those games regionally and maybe cut into the Kansas-NDSU game a few times during the game. Your NCAA tournament apperance is a nice feather in the hat regionally but thats about it. The same people who still care about it are the same people that watch UND BB on FCS and the same people who watch UND hockey every other weekend on FCS every other weekend. So to answer your question its pretty irrelevant how many people watched that game on CBS since about 98% of them don't remember it. To prove a point walk into a Fargo sports bar and ask people who UNC beat last year in the first round of the tournament. Maybe you'll get one correct answer from a Carolina fan. Without you looking it up I bet you can't even answer it right now.

So your saying mpls is right that the NCAA should force SDSU to replace their grass with turf? I agree that most schools do it as a maintence issue as I stated earlier. Its a cheaper long term investment. mpls says its all about recruiting, which I don't buy. He also says that the NCAA should force field turf on all schools. I guess if you agree with those things so be it.

Well I'd say based on the success SDSU has had the last few years and the direction their program is going that they are doing ok. Plus Notre Dame and Penn St. are north teams that don't seem to think they need long blade turf to win recruits. Add in Florida and Florida St. and how much rain they can get in Florida and they don't seem to have a problem getting recruits. Field turf's appeal is due to the cost savings of basically paying for the initial installation and thats it. Not a lot of up keep after that. To get recruits its more important you consistently win games, have a coaches they like, make the playoffs and in some cases offer a major they are looking for. Do that and recruits could care less about whether they play on grass or turf. I have yet to see a kid say the sole reason I picked school A over school B is because they have turf. Its not being stubborn, its actually having common sense and being realistic.

Yeah cause no team with grass can recruit. Also I seem to remember a kitty littter playoff game the bison played in a few years back. They had to go on the road when they had a nice, warm, dry dome to play in. Bottom line is win your games and more importantly put butts in the seats and thats all the NCAA cares about.

Still don't know what game your talking about. It rained the whole week leading up to the NDSU game I linked pictures of and that field looks like its in pretty good shape. Not muddy at all. You can also find pictures of the UNI and SIU games which where later in the year in Brookings and the field looks good in them as well. If you have ever played in Brookings you know that the field itself is well taken care of and one of the nicest grass fields you can find as a player. Not every field needs to be field turf, sprint turf or any other kind of artificial surface. I think your just making excuses for the Bison recent struggles against the Bunnies. Wrong board for that.

Do you honestly beleive the !@#$ you type? Maybe they could just play two hand touch as well. You never answered my question about what game was too sloppy to play football.

What game are you talking about where the players safety was jepordized by these sloppy, muddy, junior high field conditions? Surely it wasn't this game.. As you can tell by the players jerseys it really must have been a sloppy, muddy, junior high school field mess out there with all the mud. You can barely tell what team a player is on. I would say beings it rained for an week leading up to the game that field is in great shape. With as much rain as they had any field surface would have been slippery. By your logic the NCAA should require all teams to play inside or only play in dry conditions above 32 degrees. Or maybe the NCAA could require all teams to build domes so there is no outside conditions that could effect the outcome of a game.

That guy is taking the "everyone gets a ribbon" thought a little to far. I can't believe what some people think. I've never been drunk enough to even think thats close to a good idea.

Why? Because the Bison have struggled there. Its a nice advantage and Stig builds his teams around that grass field. Teams that aren't used to playing on grass struggle with it. Its called homefield for a reason. If you honestly believe the NCAA should step in a decide what type of surface a team has to have on their field your an idiot. Do you also think that games should be held in a scrimmage type setting with no fans so crowd noise isn't a factor in games? I also highly doubt that SDSU cares what NDSU fans think about their stadium and whether they take it serious. They only care about continuing to have the upper hand in the rivalry.

Stadium may be a dump but its one of the funnest stadiums to play in as a player. If there attendance keeps improving and the team keeps winning I don't really doubt it will have a huge effect on recruiting. Kids wanna play for a winner. There are a lot worse stadiums out there than SDSU's.

Wayne Nelson won the writer of the year award for the 5th time this year. I didn't see this posted anywhere else but congrats Wayne. Thanks for all the work you do for area sports and your coverage of Sioux athletics. The award is well deserved.

I believe he was going to get a shot at receiver at SDSU. Just didn't like the fit.

And Danno thats coming from one Bison fan to another. Whats the point of posting that when the two schools aren't even going to play? Unless your talking about an all Bison scrimage. No use talking about a game until its on the schedule unless you just want to stir the pot.

Thoughts and prayers with the family. I remember reading an article about Brendan last year I believe. He was a great young man who had a bright future ahead of him.

University of Mary is a perfect example. Went from being a consistent top 8 team in NAIA every year to a low end D2 team a few years into their transition. I remember coach Lennon telling me he was able to offer more scholorships at Mary than at UND. Add that to the fact their is little to no academic entry requirments and no drug testing (this is a huge problem at NAIA. Anyone who has any knowledge of a NAIA program knows how huge steroids and other performance enhancers are). Its an adjustment when you go from very light rules and regulations to having big brother NCAA watching every move and showing up 2-4 times a year unexpectadly. Regardless though you don't have the successes that USF had by luck and not being able to coach. I think DeBoer is an excellent, excellent coach who knew his time was now and saw a great opportunity to move up and coach with a young successful coaching staff who is looking to move up the ladder. If and when Coach Lennon does get the opportunity to move up and he wants DeBoer as an OC Kalen will make more money as an OC at a FBS than a head coach at a FCS. Its a win-win either way. Best of luck to Kalen.

But he was president when they went D1. Oh you mean there is more to being president than athletics and there is actually a budget that has to be followed. I suppose if Kuppy would have been smart enough to spend money that wasn't there than the two would have been on equal grounds. One had a budget and stuck to it and left the school better academically. The other spent whatever he wanted and left the school in debt. What else would they like to compare?

HAHAHAHA......................Lakes add something of substance to any conversation is funny. Good one bin.