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21 hours ago, yzerman19 said:
$100k seems to be the going rate for a chippa
Or option B, have David Carle as your head coach apparently.
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10 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:
Cole Smith with an apple on the goal that kept Vegas in the game. Getting one before the 1st ended was massive.
I keep thinking I see Sioux jerseys in the crowd, but they are Whalers green.
And just think with the new NCAA rule with age and 5 years, players like Cole Smith may not exist in the future. Just think how different his life could have been if he didn't get the chance to enter college at 20 or 21 and develop over 4 years!
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54 minutes ago, atxsioux said:
We were the only school possibly in the mix that has a 1st round pick on the right side that we'd have to push down to the 3rd pair / play on their off side. Put us behind the eight ball compared to MSU and Michigan unfortunately. Just how the timing worked out with who was in our system heading into next year. Think the staff was upfront about if he was coming here the ice time was going to be pretty spread out and that likely took us out of the running.
I would assume that would be for both DuPont and Rudolph?
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2 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:
With him it's especially tough given his dad is an NHL exec and we have a reputation for being a good landing spot for kids with NHL family ties. The Leafs GM's son committing to DU is interesting given the Carle rumors being shot down.
And I'm not saying specifically him. Just thought we would wait but like I said maybe Davis was one we targeted? And hope he proves to be a gem!
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1 hour ago, brianvf said:
Not to keep rehashing what was discussed over a month ago, but players like this are why I was/and still am so surprised why we filled our last forward roster spot so quickly. I really hope Connor Davis proves me way off here but I still don't get why we weren't more patient!
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28 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said:
Is it assumed they are a packaged deal?
Without knowing I would say 100%.
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15 hours ago, beastandco said:
During the week is definitely possible. I know some staff was out of town over the weekend.
I think UND will be in on some high end forwards for 27/28. I could see one the of Brock England, Nolan Fitzhenry, and the Rucks come to Grand Forks. I’m betting on the Rucks returning to Medicine Hat and playing a year of NCAAs after.
I would guess Mathis Preston will do the same and play another year in the CHL and then come to college next year. I would think he would be a target as well.
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1 minute ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:
After seeing Kernan in that Quinny game, I think he’ll be 2C this year. That shot, my god
I think there's a chance we see Kernan on the wing potentially on the right side with Reschny and Zellers.
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54 minutes ago, brianvf said:
I'd take both. And we do have room, for sure.
Not ideal to have four FR dmen, but they'd all be very highly talented and would be really fun to watch.I figure this for replacements:
Liv --> DuPont
Wiebe --> Carels
Strath --> MacKenzie
Zmolek --> Boser
Jubenvill --> Lindberg
Schloss all but confirmed on his last Pod that the last two D spots will be freshman. I think DuPont is going where he can get paid and that is MIchigan or Penn St. Michigan being more likely if you ask me.
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1 hour ago, brianvf said:
Wouldn't be surprised if he waited to make his decision until after the draft.
Not only first to see what the team that drafts him wants...but also because all the coaches and some of his teammates are going to be at his house for the draft. Might be a little awkward if he's already committed to a NCAA college. Unless the Prince George staff is ok with the CHL --> NCAA move.I've had the same feeling all along that we won't hear anything until after the draft. I do feel it's UND or he signs an NHL contract but who knows at this point.
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12 hours ago, Brett0909 said:
Agreed…This would probably feel different for me if so many “in-the-know” folks weren’t confidently sharing the equivalent of a silent commit all the way back to Brad when Keaton and Cole first committed. Now time’s ticking and suddenly everybody is tempering expectations instead and Jax is filling the roster with solid transfers. I’m sure the team will be fine either way, but hard not to feel some letdown if Chyz doesn’t make at least one splash.
I'm with you on all fronts and think most/if not all can agree. I know I've been beating a dead horse saying this so often but I just don't see how any of this was our plan a few months ago when we told O'Neil and Pilgram they weren't ready. Again I understand portal adds for the guys we lost in the portal but just can't believe we didn't have anyone lined up to replace the remaining forward spots. What really confuses me is why we felt we had to complete our forward roster so early as I thought leaving one roster spot open later into the offseason was going to be commonplace moving forward with the CHL open? I guess let's just hope it works out on the D side!
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12 minutes ago, brianvf said:
I am betting that a good chunk of the top CHL forwards aren't even planning to play NCAA this upcoming season.
That certainly would have caused Chyz and Co to need to look elsewhere.I'm getting this feeling also but there are just so many of them out there it seems a bit odd. I know everyone is only talking about this year's potential 1st rounders but there also a solid amount of guys drafted last year that haven't signed NHL contracts that could have been options.
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11 minutes ago, tnt said:
Would think UND would have kicked the tires on him with all the rumors about him entering the portal before the Davis commitment if he was a fit or if there was interest both ways. Who knows. Would be interesting to know why he wants to leave Maine.
Yeah again everything related to forwards is just confusing to me. This was brought up quite a bit last offseason that it might be a common theme for the bluebloods to leave at least one roster spot open for a CHL guy or even a later portal entry. This is why it's so surprising to me that we have filled out our forward roster for next year already. Now we sit on the sidelines and watch!
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1 hour ago, jk said:
These are good questions. One can only conclude they do like this guy better, or maybe this was plan B after A fell through. It might just be the former. It's not unusual for the commitment list to change with new coaches.
It is funny that the board was pretty excited about getting Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr, and they got Gretzky's brother instead.
I'm not sure what plan this was but I can't imagine it was Plan A considering this kid wasn't even "officially" available until a month ago when he de-commited from Northeastern and that certainly wasn't any big story when it happened as I've never heard of him until today.
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5 minutes ago, siouxweet said:
So no high end elite forward from CHL, that's a bummer.
So baffling to me. Is he that much ahead of O'Neil at this point? Obviously the staff must think so or otherwise why not just bring in O'Neil?
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11 hours ago, scpa0305 said:
Rudolph would be nice
I sure hope we are in on him. I've read quite a few scouts believe he has the most upside of any of these D men including Reid. I have this weird feeling he might be the other DU silent commit which would just be gross!
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1 hour ago, Johnny Five said:
I think the high-high end Canadian thing is going to be an interesting follow the next few years. McKenna and Verhoeff have been highly ranked for quite some time for their age group....it's hard to argue whether this year helped, hurt or was indifferent too be honest. There was a time McKenna was "falling" and Verhoeff was "trending" as the 1, then it kinda flipped again. Now it seems McKenna is the consensus 1 and Verhoeff could be D 2-3, which is still awesome.
But what if they had stayed and crushed up north? Hard to say. McKenna allegedly got a huge bag from Penn State, but none of those high end NHLers to be really wanna open a book, do they? None of those guys take school too serious....
But many I've read already have Carels over Verhoeff. I'd have to go back and see if that was the case a year ago, but if Carels goes top 3 I can't imagine he'll want on anyone's campus, the big show is his dream, unless someone throws a McKenna bag at him.
The changing landscapes of college hockey.
I agree and have said it all year McKenna and Verhoeff are going to be the case-study for all draft-eligibles moving forward. With potentially Verhoeff falling to the 2-5th D off the board and getting passed by players that ripped it up in the CHL, do you see most/if not all play their draft-eligible year in junior specifically defensemen? I think this could be why you may see DuPont wait until after the draft to make his decision. Does he dominate another year in the W being the best d man in the league and have 80-100 points and solidify his draft stock as the #1 overall or potentially get your deficiencies exposed against bigger/stronger/older competition?
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54 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:
CHL guys can’t commit until after their seasons are over. This has been widely known.
I get that but the fact that we may only have one forward roster spot available for such player is what I'm questioning? Again, was this our plan all along to only potentially bring in one at forward? Obviously hoping for a couple D as well!
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12 hours ago, sioux rube said:
Wow holy heater he is on! It will be interesting to see when he gets his first start next season.
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11 hours ago, tnt said:
Yeah, didn’t Chris Peters on that podcast say that UND was tied to more than one player during World Juniors? With that much smoke you would think there would be some fire.
I'm 100% with you here. I just can't believe that all the rumors of UND having guys lined up for months and nothing comes to fruition! Would be very bizarre if true.
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13 hours ago, AJS said:
I don’t either, but like @brianvf said, really need that last F spot to be elite. Someone they hope can play on the top line. Get that and next year’s F group should be excellent.
I agree I don't dislike any of the adds either it's just really curious to me. Like was the plan all along to only bring in one more freshman forward (after the 3 we all figured were coming) and backfill any portal entries with portal additions? I just thought with pushing back O'Neil and Pilgram it certainly meant we had some guys already lined up not shopping in the portal!
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2 minutes ago, cberkas said:
So another bottom 6, yay. If faceoffs are why you look for these guys then why not practice faceoffs in practice.
Yeah I'm with you. Makes it far less intriguing moving forward with only one forward spot open if true. Does this mean most of Chyz's work this winter has been for future year's rosters? Obviously need two d yet but was hoping for some high-end forwards!
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3 hours ago, Johnny Five said:
There is a pretty good thread on GPL regarding NIL where a lawyer attempts to break it down. It is waaaaaaay more confusing than any of us think, or just a booster handing over a check to a top recruit. The phrase "Big 10 Money" gets thrown around, but according to that thread and as you mentioned Wilbur, at the UM it's not necessarily the case (the $250K for a player, etc)...and on top of that, it's complicated as hell.
David Carle was on Chiclets this week as well and was very insightful on all things college hockey along with NIL. It's a good listen.
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41 minutes ago, brianvf said:
The obvious targets would be Carels, DuPont, Ruck twins, and Belchetz.
I would be ecstatic if we're able to land 2 of those 5. Anything more than that is just bonus.
I'm guessing the staff has quite a few CHL "fallbacks" of players in case those big timers go elsewhere. Similar to the Ollie signing at the end of last summer...he was a player that no one had talked about before he committed, but he'll end up being a great player for the future here.I think you can throw Rudolph in with those names as well. As far as forwards go though, I have to think there are multiple options if we don't have at least one already in the cupboard.
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I'm curious to see if we really zone in on a target/targets like we supposedly did with Carels over a year ago? For instance the Ruck's or Preston? I just found that statement quite curious with the fact that we have a full time GM and it sure seemed like from over a year ago it was Carels or bust on the D side? DId we not even attempt to get Rudolph/Lin as well? I know we have Verhoeff and Emery on the right side but that sure didn't stop Denver.