s7ark Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hey all, Oilers fan here. I was wondering if I could get some impressions of Chorney so far this year. The last guy we drafted from your team (Greene) is doing VERY well up in the NHL for us and I was wondering if you guys think Chorney has NHL potential as well. I saw him in the WJC but I didn't get to see all the American games, so I missed a lot of his play. Your thoughts would be great, thx! BTW - we love Greene up here. You guys did an incredible job of preparing him for the NHL, he only needed 1/2 a season of AHL seasoning to make it to the bigs!! That speaks wonders for the program you guys are running. Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 You should hook us up with a video of Greener pounding some unfortunate soul, which sadly we never got to see, for payment of our impressions of Chorney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hey all, Oilers fan here. I was wondering if I could get some impressions of Chorney so far this year. The last guy we drafted from your team (Greene) is doing VERY well up in the NHL for us and I was wondering if you guys think Chorney has NHL potential as well. I saw him in the WJC but I didn't get to see all the American games, so I missed a lot of his play. Your thoughts would be great, thx! BTW - we love Greene up here. You guys did an incredible job of preparing him for the NHL, he only needed 1/2 a season of AHL seasoning to make it to the bigs!! That speaks wonders for the program you guys are running. Thanks so much! Thanks, please provide these comments to all NHL GMs so that we get to keep players longer. Taylor Chorney is a very different player from Greene, but definately has NHL talent. The team is playing with 4 freshman defensemen and 1 sophamore who didn't play much his freshman year. Even with the very young team the defense hasn't been bad. Chorney is strong on his skates and is fast skater, but he is not a physical player like Greene. I wish he shot more, because it seems like he has a great shot (alot of power). Chorney is a very good passer, and may develop into a more offensive defenseman. The team has had issues with the transition game, but I think that speaks to the youth. Chorney has made some nice breakout passes. Most of the season he has been on the #1 PP unit. One other observation. For a defenseman Chorney really doesn't take too many penalties. That is a rarity in this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s7ark Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hmm I don't have any specific clips of Greene for you, I will see what I can find though http://www.edmontonoilers.com/interactive/...?var1=0&var2=10 here is the link to the Oilers highlight reel for each game this season. You may be able to see some of his bigger hits here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s7ark Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 Thanks, please provide these comments to all NHL GMs so that we get to keep players longer. Taylor Chorney is a very different player from Greene, but definately has NHL talent. The team is playing with 4 freshman defensemen and 1 sophamore who didn't play much his freshman year. Even with the very young team the defense hasn't been bad. Chorney is strong on his skates and is fast skater, but he is not a physical player like Greene. I wish he shot more, because it seems like he has a great shot (alot of power). Chorney is a very good passer, and may develop into a more offensive defenseman. The team has had issues with the transition game, but I think that speaks to the youth. Chorney has made some nice breakout passes. Most of the season he has been on the #1 PP unit. One other observation. For a defenseman Chorney really doesn't take too many penalties. That is a rarity in this team. Hahaha, next time I am sitting down with Kevin Lowe I'll pass along your message And thanks for the early thoughts! I actually think Chorney's game could compliment Greene's quite well. Greene can take the defensive coverage and Chorney makes the up ice passes. Oh and the low penalty thing, is that due to good body position or an unwillingness to make contact? Good to hear he is getting some PP time too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spfreak Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 It has little to nothing to do with an unwillingness to take or dish out contact. He is just incredibly well positioned and very disciplined. He is extremely solid defensively and can make some nice plays offensively. He seems to be great at decision making with the puck and has a good shot from the point. He is very good at the breakout pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 My compare/contrast with Chorney and Greene: 1. Greene has more size so his hits are harder. 2. Greene's feistier physically. No, Chorney doesn't shy away from physical contact, but Greene is more likely to drop the gloves than Chorney IMO. THis has to do with PIMs and Chorney's ability to be in great position. 3. Chorney has an offensive upside. Greene's gonna be solid defensively, but don't expect much offense from him. Chorney has a good shot from the point. Given time to develop, it could be a GREAT shot from the point. 4. Chorney and Greene are about the same positionally. Chorney MIGHT have an edge on seeing the ice. Both are solid defensively, but Chorney, again with the offense side of things, could develop to be an outstanding outlet passer. 5. Chorney's faster than Greene. Not a whole lot of people can say that speed for a defenseman in the defensive zone is a primary asset, but consider this: Chorney has a great ability not only to recover if he's ever out of position, but usually he can recover if his linemate is caught out of position as well. It's a valuable asset to have. I wouldn't say that Chorney is Lidstrom-esque right now, but he has the POTENTIAL to become nearly as good defensively as Lidstrom a few years down the line. Edmonton drafted two great prospects in Chorney and Vandevelde. Vandevelde has size but is a bit of a project. However, he's got intangibles that will make Vandevelde a solid pick as well. Chorney, however, is a steal. I thought he'd go earlier in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1Hakfan Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Edmonton just traded for 2 new Defensemen. Is Greene going to get sent down or less ice time. The best thing about Matt Greene is his sense of humor. He is a great guy. Really funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 My compare/contrast with Chorney and Greene: 1. Greene has more size so his hits are harder. 2. Greene's feistier physically. No, Chorney doesn't shy away from physical contact, but Greene is more likely to drop the gloves than Chorney IMO. THis has to do with PIMs and Chorney's ability to be in great position. 3. Chorney has an offensive upside. Greene's gonna be solid defensively, but don't expect much offense from him. Chorney has a good shot from the point. Given time to develop, it could be a GREAT shot from the point. 4. Chorney and Greene are about the same positionally. Chorney MIGHT have an edge on seeing the ice. Both are solid defensively, but Chorney, again with the offense side of things, could develop to be an outstanding outlet passer. 5. Chorney's faster than Greene. Not a whole lot of people can say that speed for a defenseman in the defensive zone is a primary asset, but consider this: Chorney has a great ability not only to recover if he's ever out of position, but usually he can recover if his linemate is caught out of position as well. It's a valuable asset to have. I wouldn't say that Chorney is Lidstrom-esque right now, but he has the POTENTIAL to become nearly as good defensively as Lidstrom a few years down the line. Edmonton drafted two great prospects in Chorney and Vandevelde. Vandevelde has size but is a bit of a project. However, he's got intangibles that will make Vandevelde a solid pick as well. Chorney, however, is a steal. I thought he'd go earlier in the 2nd round. Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there Red. Chorney, freshman Sioux defensemen, being compared to All Star NHL defenseman Lidstrom. Uh...not yet. Chorney has improved a bunch this season, but he's still a freshman and has work to do especially with his strength and he does not control the puck offensively like Lidstrom or Lee for that matter. He's good, but there's room for improvement and he is getting better and we will have him here for at least a couple more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spfreak Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Edmonton just traded for 2 new Defensemen. Is Greene going to get sent down or less ice time. The best thing about Matt Greene is his sense of humor. He is a great guy. Really funny. Edmonton traded for 1 dman from what I read. So it should not affect Greene's ice time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there Red. Chorney, freshman Sioux defensemen, being compared to All Star NHL defenseman Lidstrom. Uh...not yet. Chorney has improved a bunch this season, but he's still a freshman and has work to do especially with his strength and he does not control the puck offensively like Lidstrom or Lee for that matter. He's good, but there's room for improvement and he is getting better and we will have him here for at least a couple more years. I don't recall ever saying he was NOW. Lidstrom references is what he could develop into. If I weren't clear on that, I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s7ark Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 Wow, I don't think I was expecting Lidstrom as a comparison. That is far too much for a poor Oiler fan like me to hope for. Thanks for your responses everyone! And yes the Oilers traded for two defensemen today, but there are rumours that they are going to be moving a d-man soon for a goalie. Like Staios is going. I see our pairings like this in about a week Pronger - Bergeron Smith - Tarnstrom Spacek - Greene Ulanov So no I don't expect Greene to be sent down. He has proven he is very capable at this level. There is no reason for him to go to the AHL, he has nothing further to learn there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spfreak Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 That would be very good if the Oilers could keep Greene up. I apologize for my previous post about only acquiring 1 dman. I had not heard about the Spacek deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I don't recall ever saying he was NOW. Lidstrom references is what he could develop into. If I weren't clear on that, I apologize. You're right. You did say "potential." I just get turned off about even naming pros that college freshmen may be like some day as there is really no way to make a valid comparison because they are freshmen and so many things would have to go exactly right to become that great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 You're right. You did say "potential." I just get turned off about even naming pros that college freshmen may be like some day as there is really no way to make a valid comparison because they are freshmen and so many things would have to go exactly right to become that great player. A good point. Alexandre Daigle was supposed to be the next Wayne Gretzky and he hasn't done badly but not nearly matched to the hype. Right now, the next "Golden One" is being outscored by a Russian phenom (AO is the real deal, btw). So I see your point. What I MEANT to say is that Chorney's playing style, if it matures correctly and develops adequately, could resemble Lidstrom's current style. There's always risk that it won't pan out, but that's reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 You're right. You did say "potential." I just get turned off about even naming pros that college freshmen may be like some day as there is really no way to make a valid comparison because they are freshmen and so many things would have to go exactly right to become that great player. Kessel = Alexandre Daigle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Kessel = Alexandre Daigle No, actually, I think Kessel is better that Daigle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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