Goon Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I think a UI exemption should help the Sioux just as I think the Florida exemption should also help. It comes down to that 'mascot' thing that everyone keeps bringing up as a bone of contention, before the name. UND not having a mascot is a big factor, IMHO. We're not holding up a mascot to be ridiculed, we're not committing sacrilige by using items forbidden for use outside of religious ceremonies, and we don't have a mascot stirring up the crowd to perform threatening acts, i.e. the tomahawk chop. I fervently hope that the NC$$ recognizes this and that they see that the use of the name is a First Amendment issue that is going to land their butts in court if they don't 'allow' us to use it without facing their heavy handed consequences; where, without a doubt, we WILL win. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 To take my mind off the pummeling the Bears were taking I did a little search on NC$$ lawsuits. There's more but I need to get the laundry done. How many lawsuits can they continue to defend and lose? http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&am...+25%2c+2005Wait starts on NCAA lawsuit Saturday, June 25, 2005 By ALAN CLEMONS Times Sports Staff aclemons@htimes.com Sometime within the next 16 days, Tuscaloosa County Circuit Judge Steve Wilson will decide if a $60 million lawsuit against the NCAA and other defendants can proceed. Former University of Alabama coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams claim defamation and harm of their careers. http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/s...11/fulmer.shtml Defamation suit against Fulmer filed in Tennessee Kenny Smith and his parents filed a lawsuit in Knox County Chancery Court on Thursday seeking $480 million because of statements Fulmer made to NCAA officials in 2000, according to documents obtained Monday by The Associated Press. A similar lawsuit filed last year in Alabama was dismissed. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...ooster_suit_ap/ 'Rogue booster' Smith sues NCAA Posted: Tuesday August 12, 2003 1:11 PM Updated: Tuesday August 12, 2003 2:12 PM Wendell Smith has filed suit against the NCAA, which labeled him a "rogue booster" following its investigation into Alabama's football program. Smith's suit in Jackson County Circuit Court seeks unspecified punitive damages, alleging defamation and an invasion of privacy have hurt his reputation and his career. http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/article...news/news01.txt Jackie Sherrill sues NCAA for millions By BRIAN HAWKINS/Starkville Daily News Former Mississippi State Head Football Coach Jackie Sherrill is suing the National Collegiate Athletic Association, two of its investigators and and Madison county woman in a multi-million-dollar civil action stemming from the recent probe into Bulldog football recruiting violations. http://www.fox30online.com/sports/story.as...42-3BAA3C5A81D6 Washington, NCAA reach settlement with Neuheisel Last Update: 3/7/2005 12:28:27 PM Neuheisel, who had sued Washington for wrongful termination in 2003 and the NCAA for interfering with the situation, will receive a $3 million payment, of which $2.5 million will be paid by the NCAA and $500,000 by the university. The university has also agreed not to seek repayment of a loan worth $1.5 million that it made to Neuheisel as part of a compensation package in 2002. http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/printer.p...cd227.713,.html NCAA pays $650,000 to settle lawsuit over ticket refunds "The payment marks the end of a long and drawn-out process, and brings the NCAA into compliance with Kansas laws," Shallenburger said. At issue was money paid to the NCAA for Final Four basketball tournament tickets. http://www.caller2.com/autoconv/sportstex99/sportstex21.html NCAA mulls cost of antitrust lawsuit By KELLEY SHANNON Associated Press A U.S. District Court jury in Kansas City, Kan., last May awarded $67 million in damages to about 1,900 entry-level "restricted earnings coaches" in an antitrust lawsuit against the NCAA. The court ruled the NCAA acted unlawfully in capping salaries of entry-level coaches at $16,000 annually. Once the plaintiffs' lawyers' fees were calculated, the NCAA's financial obligation in thelawsuit amounted to around $80 million. http://www.newsnetworkonline.com/Categorie...itpurchasex.htm NCAA buys NIT for $56.5 million For $56.5 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runninwiththedogs Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 And here I thought I had an original thought! I rented a room between University and Springfield, I swear the house was on the 'to be condemned list'. I think a UI exemption should help the Sioux just as I think the Florida exemption should also help. It comes down to that 'mascot' thing that everyone keeps bringing up as a bone of contention, before the name. UND not having a mascot is a big factor, IMHO. We're not holding up a mascot to be ridiculed, we're not committing sacrilige by using items forbidden for use outside of religious ceremonies, and we don't have a mascot stirring up the crowd to perform threatening acts, i.e. the tomahawk chop. I fervently hope that the NC$$ recognizes this and that they see that the use of the name is a First Amendment issue that is going to land their butts in court if they don't 'allow' us to use it without facing their heavy handed consequences; where, without a doubt, we WILL win. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You must have been staying in one of the frat houses. I think you're right that UND only using a nickname is a key for their case. I really hope that you're right, I hope that the University prevails. The WCHA just wouldn't be the same without the SIOUX. But I also hope maybe something good can come out of this whole debacle, like more dialogue between the tribes and UND, more understanding on both sides... I'm pretty sure you guys all agree with me on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 B]You must have been staying in one of the frat houses.[/b But I also hope maybe something good can come out of this whole debacle, like more dialogue between the tribes and UND, more understanding on both sides... I'm pretty sure you guys all agree with me on that one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only once or twice . I did transfer in good standing after my freshman year but will admit only under the guise of anonimity that I don't remember much of my freshman year. I agree open dialogue is and should be an essential part of our continued use of the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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