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IMO, this was UND's best win of the year. Seattle has beaten a number of established dI's this year, including Louisiana Tech, UC Irvine, Cal Poly, E. Washington and Loyola Marymount. Harrison, Harkins and Bledsoe all played very well tonight.

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In theSagarin Ratings, Seattle is at #133, which is remarkable for a first-year Division I team. Seattle would be competitive in the WAC. South Dakota's ratings would make it an average team in the MAC or Sun Belt.

College Basketball 2008-2009 Div

71 Nebraska = 80.11

72 Wis.-Green Bay = 80.09

80 North Dakota State = 79.28

81 Northern Iowa = 78.75

113 Oral Roberts = 75.34

114 Oakland-Mich. = 75.29

122 Drake = 74.56

127 Wis.-Milwaukee = 74.16

133 Seattle = 73.86

142 Idaho = 73.21

162 Montana = 72.45

201 Indiana = 69.98

206 Utah Valley State = 69.68

207 Denver = 69.67

211 South Dakota = 69.4

212 Montana State = 69.3

222 Northern Colorado = 68.72

228 IPFW = 68.22

236 Chicago State = 67.59

239 South Dakota State = 67.44

244 Southern Utah = 66.93

280 North Dakota = 64.84

282 Centenary = 64.76

296 UMKC = 63.02

299 SIU-Edwardsville = 62.75

328 Houston Baptist = 59.16

334 Texas-Pan American = 58.04

347 NJIT(New Jersey Tech) = 48.35

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In theSagarin Ratings, Seattle is at #133, which is remarkable for a first-year Division I team. Seattle would be competitive in the WAC. South Dakota's ratings would make it an average team in the MAC or Sun Belt.

Sagarin only counts D-I games, coupled with the limited interplay between first year transitional schools (non-RPI counters) and established D-I teams makes the ratings more difficult

Ex. Sagarin has USD at 211 based on a 4-6 record against D-I schools, however they are only 1-3 against RPI counters- tough to make much of a judgement off that

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I wonder why neither UND nor USD's men played Houston Baptist this year? The UND women will likely play HB three times this season.

Partly economics. The HBU men's team can get more guarantees or two-for-ones (why travel north when they aren't required to by conference) - whereas women's scheduling is more about the competition and not the $'s.

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Sagarin only counts D-I games, coupled with the limited interplay between first year transitional schools (non-RPI counters) and established D-I teams makes the ratings more difficult

Ex. Sagarin has USD at 211 based on a 4-6 record against D-I schools, however they are only 1-3 against RPI counters- tough to make much of a judgement off that

USD 1st year transitional opponents - SIU-E, Seattle, UND - have played extensively against established DI teams so limited interplay is not a valid argument. The sampling size of 10 is at least as good of quality as the first BCS computer rankings (with 6 or 7 data points). Futhermore, Sagarin is no doubt a better rating system than RPI.

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