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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:
I give up. You are convinced that less exposure is somehow better. I am calling bullcrap on that.
But you haven't identified a single byte, frame, or millisecond of exposure that UND stands to lose.
All NDSU fans are 'losing' is that pre-game shows will be filmed off-site, a different voice might be asking questions at interviews, and that they may have to change their radio presets. Big deal. If the Forum has any journalistic integrity at all, they won't punish fans by cutting coverage over sour grapes with NDSU. After all, the Forum needs eyeballs, too.
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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:
So you don't care what kind of coverage our teams get? That is really short-sighted, just like this asinine policy from FU. Of course, that is why you like it. And no, it was not "inevitable", it is the product of bloated, oversized egos at a mid-major Division I institution which is acting like they are already in the Big 12 and are the center of the collegiate sports universe (neither of those things are true). Limiting exposure of your product is just plain stupid and it alienates your biggest boosters and most loyal fans; two groups any university dares not alienate. Except for FU of course.
I should be enjoying this, but I am not, because it could happen in Grand Forks too. What if coverage of UND hockey was limited to the holders of the broadcast rights and everyone else was banned? Does that sound like a good idea to you? Is it "inevitable"? I say no to both of those questions.
But here's the rub...my premise is that, just like at NDSU, UND's games stay on TV (although I will continue to attend in person, as well). UND Athletics has a strong presence of Twitter, and I expect they will continue to adapt to whatever new media come down the road. I have no doubt that SiouxSports.com and USCHO.com -- who both operate completely free of UND influence -- will continue to exist. And so long as Schlossman stays employed at the Herald, I can count on him to continue providing the level of hockey journalism he always has. I don't need the Herald, though. As a non-subscriber, I only read the free online content or whatever physical copies get left sitting in various lobbies and waiting rooms. So if the Herald put everything behind a pay wall tomorrow, I would get over it immediately.
So, basically, that's the full extent of the coverage and exposure of UND that I consume and/or need. What more do you need? What more does anyone need?
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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:
If you think this is such a great idea, why don't you write Kennedy and Faison and suggest they do this in Grand Forks as well?
Didn't say it was a great idea. Only that it was inevitable, and not the end of the world (as some seem to think).
So long as games stay on TV, I could care less what UND does or does not put in its contracts. I am not in the media and I have no loyalty to any of their broadcast partners. Heck, I still miss Pat Sweeney.
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Rest easy, Fargo...Grand Forks' Flying J is the new Detroit.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/4085087-man-found-dead-sunday-near-flying-j-grand-forks
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44 minutes ago, CMSioux said:
Big sigh of relief in Grand Forks as the spotlight is now on SU for a bit. The Chris Farley of North Dakota Universities strikes again.
There are only two kinds of schools: those who have sold their soul to the devil, and those chomping at the bit to. Up and down I-29, it's money that talks.
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36 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:
They want everybody to tune into their new station on Monday. The problem is nobody knows what that station is. I hope nobody listens.
I think you're underestimating the passion of sports fans. They will find the content. And at the end of the day, do you really hope nobody consumes NDSU's product?
Media shuffling to the chagrin of the public is nothing new. Look at the Big Ten Network. A lot of people laughed it off as a greedy money-grab by the conference and schools. Hundreds of thousands of loyal fans, accustomed to watching their teams on ABC/ESPN, were faced with a choice - pay for expanded cable, or not. At first, nobody even knew where BTN was on cable. In fact, many cable providers didn't even offer BTN, so they had to be lobbied. Did some fans bail? Probably. But a lot of people figured it out, and now it is a legitimate media player and reaches more homes than ever.
Nobody knows how this will all shake out for NDSU in the end...but I certainly don't think it's the show-stopping controversy some are making it out to be. It's business, plain and simple.
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11 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:
Most colleges would take all of the coverage they can get.
You're confusing "coverage" with unlimited access. Exclusive media access went to the highest bidder. Everyone else can 'cover' all they want, but they have to play by the rules (which I gather had always been in place but were not enforced).
The click-bait headlines and the Ports and McFeeleys are doing nothing but clouding the issue. Which is interesting, because they're all paid by Forum, who coincidentally got outbid for NDSU's media rights. Think about that for a minute. (Maybe it's no coincidence at all.)
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2 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said:
What in the world are you talking about?
You're precious. Now run along to the playground and let the adults visit some more.
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1 minute ago, CMSioux said:
I think there is another site better capable of explaining, bashing and defending this topic.
Does anyone honestly believe that UND is immune from, or above, chasing money? The media industry is constantly evolving. It's only a matter of time.
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Just now, Bison06 said:
So catch me up on the details here. How did this come about. Did KVLY make exclusivity a clause in their offer or how did this happen?
No clue. How ironic is it that we need to rely on the media to inform us WTF is going on down there?
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2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Did you really just compare ndsu to the Super Bowl, Final Four, and World Series? Just delusional.
Difference of degree, not character. NDSU is selling media rights, and apparently there's a buyer. How is it any different?
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1 minute ago, Bison06 said:
Even if financially this is good for NDSU, I think that dollar amount pales in comparison to the revenue that could be generated by attracting new fans to the brand through as many media outlets as possible.
NDSU has been on a five year media bender with more publicity than money can buy. I don't think there are too many viable markets that remain to be penetrated. If the media rights money is good, shouldn't they strike while the proverbial iron is hot?
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Not getting all the outrage. How is this different than any of the megabuck media and broadcast deals that have defined sports for decades? Pretty much every sports property has been willing to trade exclusivity for money. Blackouts, embargoes, all of those things trace back to exclusive rights having been granted to singular entities. It's NDSU's events and venues...why should they be chastised for monetizing media access when that is the norm? Go ahead and try to broadcast your little, indie sports show from the grounds of the Super Bowl, Final Four, World Series, etc., and see what happens.
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I'll just leave this here.
http://deadspin.com/hey-come-look-at-this-hockey-teams-logo-before-they-ap-1784447220
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10 hours ago, Siouxman said:
A while ago I would have agreed with you that PSU was a good example, but now I am beginning to wonder if their bubble has burst. They have hit a plateau.
Hyperbole, much?
'12-'13 13-14, independent, ranked 47th nationwide in attendance
'13-'14 8-26-2, 6th place B1G, ranked 8th nationwide in attendance (brand new arena)
'14-'15 18-15-4, 4th place B1G, ranked 7th nationwide in attendance
'15-'16 21-13-4, 3rd place B1G, ranked 7th nationwide in attendance, ranked 22nd in final USCHO poll
Four D1 seasons, one transition year in a brand new league, two consecutive seasons of marked improvements in on-ice performance.
Sioux fans have quite the warped view of success.
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Just now, Oxbow6 said:
So how does the fact no UND fan/alum I know or associate with owns anything FHs on it nor have I seen more than a handful of individuals wearing anything FHs on it in the F-M where I live?
Chance? Willful blindness? Who knows?
Are we talking about sales or visibility? Someone certainly has objective sales data, but perception is 100% anecdotal.
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And no discussion about FH merchandise sales would be complete without taking into consideration the impact of the National Championship in April. Tons of NC items flooded the market, creating an attractive alternative to FH and having a direct impact on current inventory levels.
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Setting aside whether a random Scheels employee has enough data or perspective to meaningfully comment about sales, it seems there are a few different hypotheses:
1. "Fighting Hawks" merchandise sales did not meet expectations because of lack of demand.
2. Demand was fine but Scheels ordered too much.
3. Scheels moved items (including back stock) to the "SALE" rack to accelerate turnover of inventory in anticipation of August release of new merchandise.
Only (1) supports the notion that consumers rejected "Fighting Hawks." (2) and (3) -- both equally plausible in my mind -- are evidence of normal market forces.
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8 minutes ago, northernraider said:
Wonder how they will make up the difference?
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Grindberg, a former state lawmaker who generally favors incentives, said it's wrong to offer an incentive that encourages a company to leave another North Dakota city to come to Fargo.
Amen. And I almost never agree with ND politicians.
Does Fargo have anything that GF can steal?
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Committees. They need committees. Oh, God, how they need committees.
And facilitators. Can't forget the facilitators.
Is SME available?
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"We have a lot of names in mind, but a lot of the ones I really liked are trademarked, so that’s a little bit of an issue,” Foley said Wednesday. “I’m happy to take any suggestions anyone has for a name, particularly one that’s not already trademarked.”
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“Our goal is to have a logo and a team name ASAP,” Foley said, adding “I didn’t realize how complicated it was. It is complicated and we’re working our way through the process right now as we speak.”
Anyone here have any suggestions?
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1 hour ago, Blackheart said:
Yeah, what's the conversion rate anyway? For each piece of Sioux gear returned you get 25 FHawk items?
A Dollar is a Oollar.
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But not his credential. He's still a member of the working media and will continue to be treated as such. As would Schlossman if the same thing happened here.
Unlimited and unfettered access was a vestige of a prior era. Quaint, but totally unrealistic.