NoiseInsideMyHead
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6 hours ago, Cratter said:
That ed pic is dying for a caption.
"I'm particularly excited to announce that Scheels will soon be selling officially licensed Fighting Hawks bras, in sizes A to Morganna."
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37 minutes ago, DaveK said:
Really? Since when are blue and green the same color and how are those even remotely close to the same font? Based on your ridiculous argument, those four schools with the letter O are sharing the same exact logo. You people amaze me. Excuse me now while I bash my head against the wall. It appears we have sunk to a new depth of ignorance here.
So you found exactly one example of each and that is supposed to prove your point? Notre Dame uses a suite of varying interlocking ND marks and several color combinations, including "Irish Green." And not every iteration of product is full color or even high resolution. Who's being ignorant?
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1 hour ago, Siouxperman8 said:Most people in our region (Dakotas and Minnesota) think of North Dakota when they see the interlocking ND. About 90% of the stuff I see with that logo in the Twin Cities is UND related. Probably different if you go to Alabama but who cares. We are a regional school.
We have a great history of using it and I would hate to see it retired.
That mindset says an awful lot. Reminds me of a battered spouse...'sure, he beats me, but I'm pretty lucky to be married at all, and I'm afraid to be out on my own.'
What's regional about D1 athletics?
What's regional about licensing goods into the stream of global commerce?
What's regional about having one of the top aerospace programs in the world?
The interlocking ND is not UND's identity. For once, wouldn't you like to walk into a sporting goods store and buy your team's hat without double-checking the back for an embroidered leprechaun?
I found Kelley's "Exceptional" mantra to be a bit much at times, but UND is striving to be more. UND has sought to create an identity.
Fighting Sioux, regional thinking, and being Notre Dame's bitch are in the past.
UND is looking to the future, and I applaud that.
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15 minutes ago, tho0505 said:
"Give. SME. A. Chance." Basically the worse quote in the history of UND athletics.
Given what many of you apparently consider to be in the best interests of UND athletics, I'll take that as a compliment.
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Art is subjective. http://artblog.catherinehoman.com/is-art-itself-subjective/
QuoteClive Bell theorized that the emotion one feels when he or she sees a work of art is subjective. He strongly believed that in order for something to be art it needs to produce aesthetic emotion and that emotion is awaken by significant form. Significant form is the combination of lines and colors used in a particular way. Different parts of significant form can evoke aesthetic emotion. Based on Bells definition of art as aesthetic emotion one feels, art is subjective. Two people may experience aesthetic emotion, but the reason they have experienced it may not exactly be the same. He states that, “We have no other means of recognizing art than our feeling for it. The objects that provoke aesthetic emotion vary with each individual”.
It is shamefully ignorant to suggest otherwise.
Moreover, every person is free to dislike a particular work of art. By that same token, no person has any business whatsoever telling another how he or she should respond to that work. And out of minimal respect for the art, and the artist, one should not confuse his or her own negative aesthetic emotion with an assessment of the objective quality of a work.
The notion that there could be a singular drawing that would instantaneously garner anything close to universal acclaim and acceptance as the Fighting Hawk logo is fiction, and a fantasy. Words like "good," "better," and "best" are meaningless except to the individual using them.
The hyperbole and vitriol I have seen expressed on this subject lead me to believe that many were looking for something that simply does not exist. I have no doubt that many will keep looking, ignoring the harm it may cause. Petitions and calls to the President, and veiled (or not) threats of withheld donations, are sure to follow. Some will quietly object by not buying anything (thus depriving UND of royalty revenue), while others will sit in silent judgment on friends and neighbors. A few will make it a point to noisily reject the logo at every game and at every gathering in hopes that a friendly ear will be close by.
So, for you personally, does this fool's errand continue and if so, how long and to what end? How many iterations, and how much time, trouble, and money, until 'they get it right'? Assuming you'll accept something short of perfection, what qualifies as good enough?
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"Identity," as defined at dictionary.com
Quotethe condition of being oneself or itself, and not another:
From the logo reaction thread:
QuoteWhile everyone is debating whether they like this new logo, nobody is paying any attention to the real story...which is that UND, suddenly and without warning, voluntarily retired a longstanding logo (by some accounts, in use at UND for over 100 years) that had no issue with the NCAA or this controversy, for no apparent reason other than to force this new logo down its fans' throats. This decision is much more troubling than which Hawk logo they decided to adopt. Whatever your personal opinion is about the interlocking ND logo, this decision is shady and should receive much more scrutiny.
How's this for a reason: the interlocking ND was not UND's identity.
Like it or not, this is a problem that was never, ever, ever going to go away.
I find it ironic that many of the same people who continually lambaste UND's administration over a lack of leadership and the failure to take action to address problems (e.g., the budget) are finding it so difficult to praise the leadership now and give credit where it's due for taking a definitive stance and -- finally -- giving UND Athletics a true identity.
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Might as well put this here.
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7 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:
There will not be a mascot. Print it.
Sad...that Capital One banner would look mighty nice hanging next to the hockey one.
Why must UND take itself so seriously? News flash: North Dakota is not special.
EDIT: I recently started a separate thread for a mascot discussion...these posts probably belong there.
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54 minutes ago, ArchyAlum11 said:
How about we just forgo the cartoon mascot, I still hate the fact that the wild created that marketing abomination named Nordy.
Then what do you buy the kids? Serious question. And how do you enhance the game day experience for the crowd? More raunchy chants and "Fire [president name here]" banners? The stoic, expressionless, all-business logo is history - can UND not turn the page? Please?
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UND's Fighting Hawk is going to need a name; I'll start: Clarence Beaks.
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Over the years, I've seen a lot of people on here cop a serious, borderline snobby attitude about cartoonish logos and goofy mascots. Regardless of what UND's new Fighting Hawks identity looks like, here is some proof that UND is going to need something more than a 'logo.'
This is a huge part of what college athletics is about and, IMHO, this is the kind of fun and frivolity that UND is and has been sorely lacking. I think a mascot should be priority # 1 going forward.
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3 hours ago, Fetch said:
Who has been to Winnipeg in recent yrs ?
I used to go at least once a yr but since the need for passports (I don't have one) we no longer go up there
But I seriously going to get one
What is new & improved must see & do up there now ?
Human rights museum is new, and architecturally interesting, but it's still a freakin' human rights museum.
Investors Group Field is on UM campus; parking sucks, but the facility is awesome and the pre-game fan experience (for CFL, at least) is A+. Be sure to check out the city views from the upper deck, and they let everybody come down and hang out and play catch on the field after the game.
Everything else we enjoy up there is pretty old, as near as I can tell. The railway museum is great if you haven't been , and the zoo is actually a worthwhile trip.
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12 minutes ago, GeauxSioux said:
How about when just using "North Dakota", which likely would have won the vote, was pulled not once, but twice. That was someone's agenda.
I still have heartburn that my suggestion, Arrows, was dumped because it was considered "Native American Imagery". Never mind that arrows date back thousands of years and over multiple continents and cultures.
No nickname would have been an interesting outcome for a committee empaneled solely for the purpose of selecting a nickname. Once the decision was made that UND would indeed have a name, it's hard to say that pulling 'no nickname' from the ballot had any effect on the quality of the names put forth by the Committee and ultimately chosen by voters. I just don't see the underlying agenda there.
As for NA and NA-related names, it's safe to assume that UND didn't have the stomach for a fight, but we'll never know how the NCAA might have reacted. I agree 100% that a single NA connotation should not have been used as a reason to remove any name from consideration without further debate. But there were also plenty of non-Hawks on that list that wouldn't have caused any NA problems whatsoever.
The quality of the name (or at least the variety of choices) was the responsibility of the Committee, plain and simple. And until Ed Schaefer reveals his couldn't-miss "professional" solution, I think his criticism of the entire process is misplaced and rings a tad hollow.
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2 minutes ago, zonadub said:
As for your comment that Schaefer threw everyone under the bus - he had nothing to do or say about the process that ROK put in place. Schaefer was not president and only had one vote like the rest of us. His comment reflects the sentiment of many that the selected nickname is not unique.
You mean other than being dismissive of a thoughtful (if flawed) process and calling everyone a bunch of "amateurs"?
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This website should be required reading for anyone (including former Governors and other second-guessers) wanting to criticize or dredge up the topic of nickname selection by UND. For all of the faults of the process, transparency was not one.
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13 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Yes to all.
The Committee was presented with thousands of public suggestions, and (after scrubbing for vulgarity and other formalities) it was the Committee that -- very publicly -- winnowed the list down to the finalists. Are you suggesting that the Committee was steered in a particular direction by someone and if so, based on what information? The hired "facilitator" (or whatever term was used) didn't have a vote.
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3 minutes ago, ArchyAlum11 said:Quote
Schafer said he isn't bothered by the continued popularity of the Fighting Sioux nick-name but wishes the process of selecting the Fighting Hawks name had been done in a more professional way...."We took 2,000 amateurs and said choose which one you want, so that's what we have," Schafer said.
So, it turns out Ed had all the answers -- including, it would seem, a bulletproof and uniquely "professional" approach to name selection.
Yet, nobody bothered to ask him, and now he's content to throw everyone under the bus? Interesting tactic. #mondaymorningquarterbackmuch
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15 minutes ago, reenakaur said:
I agree with you that UND has this policy, may be.
I am Anjna ,Aryanmodel, Jabraa ,Yami Sharma, Roshnikhanna , Minni , Tamannaoberoi , Gurgaon Nisha, Roshnikhanna Gurgaon and Delhi Escorts girl.
For a minute I thought that was an Indian remake of Mambo No. 5.
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3 hours ago, Fetch said:
It is amazing the old ponderosa in front of Kmart has been empty so long good location lots of parking easy access
Don't disagree, but have you seen the condition of the parking lots surrounding the old mall? Holy potholes, Batman! It'd be easier - and safer - to drive across an asteroid.
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45 minutes ago, TRex said:
How can anyone be that naive and leave keys in a vehicle?
Every law enforcement officer, ever. Standard procedure is to let the car run, near as I can tell, at least for short-ish breaks. I've seen ambulance crews do the same thing getting lunch between calls.
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On May 17, 2016 at 1:46 PM, puck said:
Come for this and leave when the game starts.
Would love for someone here who is able to attend to report back and let us know how it goes.
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37 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Back in the day one would receive a hard copy with registration for classes info and the date you could register for classes on it. It had the exact same print/type as the phone bill from the dorms. We/I would use a surgical scalpel and cut out the number of the day for registration on the paper/card. We'd replace it with a smaller number, i.e 17 to 15, from the phone bill and trace the cut marks with a black Sharpie. I/we registered at least 2-3 days earlier than our assigned original date. Got every class I wanted and could have easily graduated in 3 1/2 years doing that.
And so began a lifetime of petty hijinks and near misdemeanors...
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Fitting that the final home stand goes the way it did...NMSU with the sweep. 6-0, 4-0, 7-2.
A rather subdued Senior Day celebration post-game, and if you were wondering like me whether UND would do anything - anything at all - in observance of the obvious, not a peep. UND Baseball goes out with a ridiculously anti-climactic thud. No appearance by the President or AD (Saturday's "Fire Faison" sign was absent today), no words, no acknowledgment. Nothing.
Mind you, I wouldn't know the first thing to say under the circumstances, but I was looking to UND to find some way to make it special, to do something classy. They will give more thought to table centerpieces at the umpteenth hockey celebration banquet than they gave to the demise of an entire program. And I think that's sad.
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1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:
How about I buy you a poddle and a Gheorghe Zamfir CD and we call it good?
No can do...I'm allergic to those.
And I don't like dogs, either.
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http://www.grandforksherald.com/celebrations/4066812-grimaldi-mattson
Rocco got more than an education in Grand Forks...snagged himself a homegrown bride, too.
This won't hurt recruiting.