NoiseInsideMyHead
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10 hours ago, Hockeygirl97 said:
I'm sorry...I still think it looks terrible....and I was really hoping for a great logo cuz I was just tired of the process and wanted to be done. It's a good thing we own enough Sioux jerseys to survive until the 2nd or 3rd generation Hawks stuff comes out from another company. My grandkids will probably still be wearing Sioux jerseys.
Not by choice. Kids are, by definition, not drawn to nostalgia. Anybody here ever tried introducing their children to the cultural icons (sports, film, music, TV, etc.) of the past? (And I mean the really, really good stuff that you SWEAR is so much better than today's crap.) It is NOT an easy sell.
The only kids wearing this stuff in 10-20 years will be the descendants of hardcore faithful and neo-hipster-younglings trying to be ironic. Most kids, of course, will have zero appreciation for it, other than trying to make mom and dad happy. Before long, "Sioux" will be a memory...old fuzzy pictures on the walls and something the old folks like to talk about when hockey is on, but with little to no relevance to future generations. Basically, "Flickertails." Or the Brooklyn Dodgers.
UND will continue to have its legion fans, but we should all hope that the new ones aren't artificially manufactured and brainwashed to believe that it's Sioux or nothing. Let them learn and love and learn to love UND on their own terms, and wear whatever they want.
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Karl's is closing. Not a huge surprise...Best Buy struggles in that sector, and they're the big dog.
More retail vacancy along 32nd is both a concern and an opportunity. Natural Grocers has to carry it's own weight, for sure.
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3 minutes ago, talksalot83 said:
What prevents multiple students from using the same electronic permit?
I think it will work something like this...
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22 minutes ago, Cratter said:
This sites credentials would be banned or not issued as it often gives updates and "play by play" accounts by the users and is considered "social media" as outlined by the NDSU news release.
In fairness to those following along, I think you need to qualify that statement by telling us the extent to which, if any, this site relies on any form of official or credentialed content whatsoever.
Even if the proprietor of the site were credentialed and desired to remain so, the forums -- where the "play-by-play" accounts appear -- could easily be split off as a separate 'outlet' and not jeopardize the owner's status.
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1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said:
Kolpack is to ndsu what Schlossman is to UND and ndsu just cut his access.
But not his credential. He's still a member of the working media and will continue to be treated as such. As would Schlossman if the same thing happened here.
Unlimited and unfettered access was a vestige of a prior era. Quaint, but totally unrealistic.
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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:
I give up. You are convinced that less exposure is somehow better. I am calling bullcrap on that.
But you haven't identified a single byte, frame, or millisecond of exposure that UND stands to lose.
All NDSU fans are 'losing' is that pre-game shows will be filmed off-site, a different voice might be asking questions at interviews, and that they may have to change their radio presets. Big deal. If the Forum has any journalistic integrity at all, they won't punish fans by cutting coverage over sour grapes with NDSU. After all, the Forum needs eyeballs, too.
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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:
So you don't care what kind of coverage our teams get? That is really short-sighted, just like this asinine policy from FU. Of course, that is why you like it. And no, it was not "inevitable", it is the product of bloated, oversized egos at a mid-major Division I institution which is acting like they are already in the Big 12 and are the center of the collegiate sports universe (neither of those things are true). Limiting exposure of your product is just plain stupid and it alienates your biggest boosters and most loyal fans; two groups any university dares not alienate. Except for FU of course.
I should be enjoying this, but I am not, because it could happen in Grand Forks too. What if coverage of UND hockey was limited to the holders of the broadcast rights and everyone else was banned? Does that sound like a good idea to you? Is it "inevitable"? I say no to both of those questions.
But here's the rub...my premise is that, just like at NDSU, UND's games stay on TV (although I will continue to attend in person, as well). UND Athletics has a strong presence of Twitter, and I expect they will continue to adapt to whatever new media come down the road. I have no doubt that SiouxSports.com and USCHO.com -- who both operate completely free of UND influence -- will continue to exist. And so long as Schlossman stays employed at the Herald, I can count on him to continue providing the level of hockey journalism he always has. I don't need the Herald, though. As a non-subscriber, I only read the free online content or whatever physical copies get left sitting in various lobbies and waiting rooms. So if the Herald put everything behind a pay wall tomorrow, I would get over it immediately.
So, basically, that's the full extent of the coverage and exposure of UND that I consume and/or need. What more do you need? What more does anyone need?
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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:
If you think this is such a great idea, why don't you write Kennedy and Faison and suggest they do this in Grand Forks as well?
Didn't say it was a great idea. Only that it was inevitable, and not the end of the world (as some seem to think).
So long as games stay on TV, I could care less what UND does or does not put in its contracts. I am not in the media and I have no loyalty to any of their broadcast partners. Heck, I still miss Pat Sweeney.
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Rest easy, Fargo...Grand Forks' Flying J is the new Detroit.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/4085087-man-found-dead-sunday-near-flying-j-grand-forks
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44 minutes ago, CMSioux said:
Big sigh of relief in Grand Forks as the spotlight is now on SU for a bit. The Chris Farley of North Dakota Universities strikes again.
There are only two kinds of schools: those who have sold their soul to the devil, and those chomping at the bit to. Up and down I-29, it's money that talks.
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36 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:
They want everybody to tune into their new station on Monday. The problem is nobody knows what that station is. I hope nobody listens.
I think you're underestimating the passion of sports fans. They will find the content. And at the end of the day, do you really hope nobody consumes NDSU's product?
Media shuffling to the chagrin of the public is nothing new. Look at the Big Ten Network. A lot of people laughed it off as a greedy money-grab by the conference and schools. Hundreds of thousands of loyal fans, accustomed to watching their teams on ABC/ESPN, were faced with a choice - pay for expanded cable, or not. At first, nobody even knew where BTN was on cable. In fact, many cable providers didn't even offer BTN, so they had to be lobbied. Did some fans bail? Probably. But a lot of people figured it out, and now it is a legitimate media player and reaches more homes than ever.
Nobody knows how this will all shake out for NDSU in the end...but I certainly don't think it's the show-stopping controversy some are making it out to be. It's business, plain and simple.
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11 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:
Most colleges would take all of the coverage they can get.
You're confusing "coverage" with unlimited access. Exclusive media access went to the highest bidder. Everyone else can 'cover' all they want, but they have to play by the rules (which I gather had always been in place but were not enforced).
The click-bait headlines and the Ports and McFeeleys are doing nothing but clouding the issue. Which is interesting, because they're all paid by Forum, who coincidentally got outbid for NDSU's media rights. Think about that for a minute. (Maybe it's no coincidence at all.)
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2 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said:
What in the world are you talking about?
You're precious. Now run along to the playground and let the adults visit some more.
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1 minute ago, CMSioux said:
I think there is another site better capable of explaining, bashing and defending this topic.
Does anyone honestly believe that UND is immune from, or above, chasing money? The media industry is constantly evolving. It's only a matter of time.
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Just now, Bison06 said:
So catch me up on the details here. How did this come about. Did KVLY make exclusivity a clause in their offer or how did this happen?
No clue. How ironic is it that we need to rely on the media to inform us WTF is going on down there?
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2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Did you really just compare ndsu to the Super Bowl, Final Four, and World Series? Just delusional.
Difference of degree, not character. NDSU is selling media rights, and apparently there's a buyer. How is it any different?
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1 minute ago, Bison06 said:
Even if financially this is good for NDSU, I think that dollar amount pales in comparison to the revenue that could be generated by attracting new fans to the brand through as many media outlets as possible.
NDSU has been on a five year media bender with more publicity than money can buy. I don't think there are too many viable markets that remain to be penetrated. If the media rights money is good, shouldn't they strike while the proverbial iron is hot?
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Not getting all the outrage. How is this different than any of the megabuck media and broadcast deals that have defined sports for decades? Pretty much every sports property has been willing to trade exclusivity for money. Blackouts, embargoes, all of those things trace back to exclusive rights having been granted to singular entities. It's NDSU's events and venues...why should they be chastised for monetizing media access when that is the norm? Go ahead and try to broadcast your little, indie sports show from the grounds of the Super Bowl, Final Four, World Series, etc., and see what happens.
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I'll just leave this here.
http://deadspin.com/hey-come-look-at-this-hockey-teams-logo-before-they-ap-1784447220
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10 hours ago, Siouxman said:
A while ago I would have agreed with you that PSU was a good example, but now I am beginning to wonder if their bubble has burst. They have hit a plateau.
Hyperbole, much?
'12-'13 13-14, independent, ranked 47th nationwide in attendance
'13-'14 8-26-2, 6th place B1G, ranked 8th nationwide in attendance (brand new arena)
'14-'15 18-15-4, 4th place B1G, ranked 7th nationwide in attendance
'15-'16 21-13-4, 3rd place B1G, ranked 7th nationwide in attendance, ranked 22nd in final USCHO poll
Four D1 seasons, one transition year in a brand new league, two consecutive seasons of marked improvements in on-ice performance.
Sioux fans have quite the warped view of success.
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Just now, Oxbow6 said:
So how does the fact no UND fan/alum I know or associate with owns anything FHs on it nor have I seen more than a handful of individuals wearing anything FHs on it in the F-M where I live?
Chance? Willful blindness? Who knows?
Are we talking about sales or visibility? Someone certainly has objective sales data, but perception is 100% anecdotal.
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And no discussion about FH merchandise sales would be complete without taking into consideration the impact of the National Championship in April. Tons of NC items flooded the market, creating an attractive alternative to FH and having a direct impact on current inventory levels.
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Setting aside whether a random Scheels employee has enough data or perspective to meaningfully comment about sales, it seems there are a few different hypotheses:
1. "Fighting Hawks" merchandise sales did not meet expectations because of lack of demand.
2. Demand was fine but Scheels ordered too much.
3. Scheels moved items (including back stock) to the "SALE" rack to accelerate turnover of inventory in anticipation of August release of new merchandise.
Only (1) supports the notion that consumers rejected "Fighting Hawks." (2) and (3) -- both equally plausible in my mind -- are evidence of normal market forces.
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18 hours ago, MafiaMan said:
Not the final version but a good start - I apologize for the fuzziness of the logo.
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Sooo...anyone interested in some jerseys?
If Toucan Sam had a sidekick...
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Here comes the Merchandise
in UND Nickname
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Living in denial, I see. To what end? To prove a point? To show that men's hockey has bigger pucks, err, balls? I'm starting to see real similarities between the Bernie Sanders crowd and the Sioux forever people. Stop fighting a foolish fight and join the team; the ongoing tantrums are an embarrassment.