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I wonder why Montana would be recruiting in Minneapolis. That seems odd. Sounds like a very good get for UND. Thanks for the info Walrus.

Oh come on, you can't do that to us. That's just cruel. Please tell? Pretty Please?

I came across this article in the Wisconsin State Journal about another Wisconsin recruit. Sounds like there are a lot of quality schools after him. It will be interesting to see who wins this battle for the Wisconsin POY.

Five commitments already? If these 5 were in for visits last weekend, which I assume they were, then I believe we are batting around .500 for the weekend. I think we had 10 kids last weekend, maybe 12 at the most. The dominoes have begun to fall pretty hard.

Those are only two good points choyt3. There are so many holes in that flawed argument that I found it silly to reply with a list. Hence, my comments earlier. You just stated two of my original thoughts. I don't think much more needs to be said. I'm back on topic.

You're getting dumber. This post tops your last one. Please stop for the sake of your own integrity on this forum.

Mplsbison, By far, the dumbest post I have seen from you. You are better than this logic you just tried using.

A very good friend of mine who lives in Perham told me today that Perham QB Marcus Hendrickson has verbally committed to UND. Can anybody else confirm this? Sounds like he won't play QB, and was recruited as an athlete. I've never seen the kid play, but all indications are that he is one heck of a player.

Sorry, I didn't see that before. My fault.

There were some very impressive looking pics in the Herald today that accompanied the article. Not sure why they weren't included on the Herald's website. I looked them up on JLG's website. Here it is. The future of UND athletics in general is very exciting with many new facilities on the horizon.

This guy's a bison troll. Put him on ignore like I just did. Go away, JBB.

While you seem charming, you still are missing the point. THE GAME WAS STILL IN DOUBT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND HALF. It was 20-2 still, hence Chappell still being in the game. Since you want to compare apples to oranges, remember the UNO game in 2005? Using your logic we should have sat the starters in the 4th quarter. Could you imagine the backlash had we done that and had the same result? By the way, I followed in up with a 84.

"YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!.........HELLO!?!?!?!"

Oxbow, you want to compare mop-up duty against Winona to running the ball from behind against GVSU on the road? In related news, I shot 4 under par at King's Walk this summer. I wonder if I could do that at Augusta as well. BringDeanBack, I shouldn't be surprised by your opinion based on your screen name. We agree to disagree I guess.

Good points Big Game. Murray was hurt, Brady wasn't even dressed, 4th stringer was a scout team guy. Dale even said at halftime that he did not feel like he had the game in control. So how can you blame DL for playing his star? Last year in the playoffs against Winona, Dale pulled Chappell early in the 3rd quarter after he rattled off his 5th TD when the score was 35-0 and the game was in control. Nobody complained then. Pretty similar times of the game. This topic is going nowhere. Since I am a Sioux Hockey fan too, maybe I should go to the hockey threads and start giving my opinions on hockey, which I know nothing about. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, right?

I whole-heartedly disagree. Questioning playcalling in certain situations is one thing. Blaming yesterday's loss solely on the coaching staff is just plain ridiculous IMO.

I agree, our front 7 did get their asses kicked. With the exception of Bobby Stroup, that has pretty much been the norm lately. Some guys we have are very talented and are underachieving it seems. Very hard to watch as a football fan. Others are lacking in talent, but have played their asses off and overachieved and done what they have been taught by their coaches. It doesn't really look like some of the guys have the fire that it takes to go to GVSU and win in the playoffs. Like I have said in earlier threads, we need new blood in the front 7. Players with a "F you" mentality on the field who have a chip on their shoulder. Guys who play with heart and passion every play like Stroup. Yes he makes stupid plays as well by getting dumb penalties. Hopefully he will mature and grow out of that. You have to admire the way the kid plays the game however. Offensively, we were very banged up. Chappell and Murray both played, but it was obvious that neither were close to 100%. Freund's play was not what we were used to seeing and then he gets hurt. You still have to make plays however to win a game like that against GV. GVSU made more plays and were opportunistic. Hats off to them. They were the better team yesterday. Sad to see the NCC and D2 go by the wayside for Sioux Football fans. However, it is also exciting to see what's on the horizon. UND Football has a very bright future ahead of itself. Now it's time to go recruit with 63 scholarships. Should be interesting and fun to watch the staff with more money to spend. I can't wait to see the results. Great job by the players and coaching staff this season. It was a memorable one. Time to focus on the future and the FCS.

Far and away, last year's class will be the toughest of the transition recruiting years. That being said, they signed a VERY GOOD class last year. Recruiting will only get easier as the years go on. Lennon and his staff with a full 63 for next year will be flat-out scary on the recruiting trail this winter. Sounds like a full 63 for next season is a done deal. If redshirted, which I assume most will for this years signing class, they will be eligible for the playoffs their senior year. It' all downhill after that. I can't wait to see the results in February. In the past we have lost recruits to the xdsu's because of the almighty dollar. Throw that factor out the window, and those kids are coming to UND. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Can't wait.

I think the biggest loss on the o-line will be Hoffelt. Very underrated at the tackle position. Some of the young hogs will have to step up immediately. Having Braegelmann and Troen back will be huge in terms of leadership at the o-line position. Time will tell how the o-line recruiting classes have been the last few years.

Agree to disagree then. Same offense, same playcalling, same philosophy with a few tweaks here and there based on personnel. If I'm not mistaken, I believe the bubble screen is a check at the line of scrimmage for the QB to take whenever he deems necessary. I think teams are just taking that play away from us more this year because it has hurt them in the past. I would like to ask Coach Mussman if he has "changed the playcalling this year". I think you make adjustments every year to certain things that you like or dislike. However, I don't think an overhaul has been done on the general playcalling on offense. Running the ball has been a staple for many years. I remember 2 years ago when Chris Beatty ate up the UMD defense running the ball. I believe he had like 36 carries. Adam Roland and Jed Perkerewicz are two other examples. Game planning against certain teams strengths and weaknesses will dictate the playcalling week to week and year to year. I also think we are taking more shots downfield this year than we ever have in the past. Chappel's abilties have opened that up for Dressler and Trenbeath. You said "we take less shots down field" and "we are not as conservative as in years past". Sounds contradicting to me.

I agree with you. A big, 2-gapping noseguard in the mold of Mark Callahan or Scott Schultz that would require double-teams would be awesome to have, especially against UNO. However, I do not believe those guys are easy to find. We already have a great OLB in Bobby Stroup, now we need to match it with an inside guy. The freshman class this year is loaded with LB's. Between the freshman and returning upperclassmen, hopefully we have some answers in house already. If not, I would not be opposed to getting a JUCO for that spot for the immediate future.

Not trying to be argumentative and these are just my thoughts and opinions. You can twist it and turn it any way that you want. It's no different than the people who have called out Mussman for his offenses in the past. Nothing has changed, it's the same offense with a few tweaks here and there. The offense is doing things this year that has never been seen before. Helps when you have great players to execute the offense. The Sioux offenses have won a lot of games for UND the last few years. I wish I could pull up the thread from last year that was bashing Mussman's play calling. When you have 500+ yards/game it tends to silence the critics. In your response to the 3-4 being designed to stop the option, yes you are right. Originally it was. However, offenses and defenses evolve throughout the years. Generally speaking, teams have begun to pass the ball more. Enter the zone blitz scheme in the late 90's. It's a trendy profession, offensively and defensively. Tampa 2 and 3-3-5 defenses, Zone Read and West Coast offenses. How many veer/option teams do you know of? This will in turn change your recruiting style in terms of the athletes that you pursue. Why recruit guys that are going to fit in the option-stopping scheme when you only see it once a year? By and far, the option teams are becoming scarce. So I think you have to just adapt the best you can for that one game every year. I would rather recruit athletes for the other 10 teams that pass the ball 75% of the time. I would be willing to guess that when Pat Behrns is done coaching, the new coach will install a spread-type offense. It's attractive to the top-flight recruits on offense so that they can best utilize their athletic abilities. Behrns' offense has been the same since he has been there and only because he has been there so long. Sorry for rambling, but offenses and defenses evolve around each other. Recruiting will change because of that. Your comment about Mannausau and Kelling recruiting different athletes for the same defense doesn't really make sense. They both are running the same D together and I would like to believe that they consult with each other in extreme depth about who to recruit and who not to in order to maximize their needs for their defense. Defensively right now, I think our breakdowns on the field are not because of coaching, but rather because players aren't executing as they are taught. For example, tackling, pursuit angles, gap responsibilities, holding contain, etc. I don't know how many times throughout the years I have seen two guys blitz in the same gap. Do you think the coaches teach that? That's just an example. No offense, just my opinion

Precisely. Thank you for echoing my point.