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Nice.... HBU Basketball Schedule

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You are so correct. The uneducated reader probably doesn't understand that the Great West is ALREADY a conference, just is now trying to become an ALL SPORTS CONFERENCE. Kinda like the title of the thread says...... But that is what an uneducated reader might infer from an uneducated writer spinning a story.

Northern Colorado, New York Tech, LeMoyne and maybe Dallas Baptist in baseball. Highly unlikely that DBU gets in, and I don't know if NoCol, NYT and LeM would want to schedule trips all over the place for baseball.

Maybe that guy should stick to scouting and fishing. I am not sure either what OFFICIAL capacity he has with UTPA, except designated WHINER. 1. "It's probably the independent thing, which would be useless," Schnall said. "You're dealing with New York Tech and New Jersey Tech and perhaps Northern Colorado and that school in Chicago. Name one of those schools where we have anything in common or that's geographically in close proximity." Just shows how much he probably knows....if he thinks that the only teams UTPA is dealing with are the teams that were down there for the independent baseball tournament. 2. The only way to do that, he says, is to start playing football, something he doesn't see happening under the current regime. With a football program, Schnall believes UTPA could become a legitimate candidate for the Division I Southland or Division II Lone Star conferences. Yeah.....obviously he believes that UTPA is interested in DROPPING down to Division 2 in the near future. 3. Up until this season, he'd recommended at least one player to be drafted every year, and he's helped three former Broncs land with the Reds' farm system. This season, the only players he saw and recommended at UTPA were on visiting teams. WOW!....he got THREE players into the Reds farm system. He is good!!! This guy obviously has not a clue about what really is happening. What conference isn't better than the one that UTPA is in currently? What conference is gonna have anyone that has anything in common whatsoever geographically or ideologically? The only schools close to Pan-Am in distance are Monterrey Tech, Texas A&M INternational, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi and Texas A&M-Kingsville. So your choices are.... 1. Join the MCAA....the Mexican Collegiate Athletic Association. 2. Join the NCAA Division II Heartland Conference (with or without adding football) 3. Gripe a little longer about how Corpus and Central Arkansas were both able to get into Southland before them. or..... 4. Take the best available option at this moment. USELESS? What is more useless....staying the same, or changing the course somewhat in an effort to make things better? All that being said....I have no idea what conference they are wanting to join or start. Sounds to me as if our boy should go back to hunting javelinas and lay off talking in public after sipping out of Aunt Betty's pickle jar.

So Bryant joining the NEC doesn't take affect until 09-10? I was thinking that they were in it already and would get the conference schedule for the second half, making them only need a first-half schedule. Don't think HBU has a choice, since they have no conference affiliation to fall back on for a second-half schedule, coming from NAIA. The were the only school in that situation.

Who is this WE stuff?

Only HBU is an HBU. Chicago State on the other hand....is not an HBU. Whether or not it is an HBCU.....I don't rightly know. However....Tennessee State would like another HBCU in the fold of the Ohio Valley. Apples, Oranges.....Agree to disagree.

1. Why would UTPA be at the head of forming an independent league? 2. I have heard that Centenary is not going D-3 for at least three years. 3. Southland will not add anyone until Texas State is gone. They just started their "drive" and have a grand total of 120 season tickets sold. They aren't good for FBS until 2012, so it will be at least four years til Southland adds. 4. From the next post on the thread. Even if they did form an independent conference....I believe the NCAA rules stipulate that a brand new conference must be a full-fledged conference for 13 years before gaining any form of automatic berth. 5. DBU isn't joining an independent league. For some time now they have had their sites set on bigger and better. As a power in the NAIA, baseball was and still is their marquee sport, where they put their money and efforts. All those said efforts are directly focused on being a top-flight Division I power in baseball. They had delusions of getting into the Big 12, and have approached the WAC as well, even going to the lengths of scheduling a plethora of their teams. Bottom line is that they proved that they don't need no stinking conference to make it to the regionals. Their m.o. obviously works. Schedule the toughest comp you can and win. Bottom line. Until a "real" conference calls on them. 6. Summit isn't in any hurry to add anyone....including the Dakotas. Don't mean to burst any bubbles, but it's true. Sorry. 7. How many of the transition schools are trying to go RPI-counter this season and in what sports are they trying? I do believe that most are staying the way they are for one more year with the exception of Bryant and HBU? As Charles Barkley would say......"I may be mistaken, but I'm never wrong." Welcome any thoughts or critiques. Rarely post, but enjoy reading the board.

A. Didn't know they were in cahoots with UND B. Didn't know that Denver was a religiously based institution

What conference(s) is(are) Denver looking at? Why would the Big Sky be a step down? And no...I don't want to go to a Denver message board and ask them.

Just a word of thanks to Star2City on several other topics.....for a bunch of good research and insightful posting. Begin rambling...... If I am not mistaken, there could actually be 15 schools in the independent list as of 08-09. Correct me if I am wrong. NJ Tech Longwood Bryant New Haven NC Central UT-Pan American HBU Chicago State SIU-Edwardsville Savannah State CSU-Bakersfield Seattle UND USD Utah Valley Notice the breakdown into three, five-team divisions. Eight games in division, up to possible 10 out. Makes for a projected 18-game second half scheduling help....leaving just seven games to be filled to hit the 25 needed to be an RPI counter. All these schools are in different phases of their transition, but it would probably help until some people found conference affiliation. I had heard that NC Central was attempting to get in the MEAC, and there is early word that New Haven and Bryant are looking to buddy up to America East or the NEC. I would assume that CSU-Bakersfield is trying to get into the Big West with all the other CSU-fill in the blanks...... Obviously from all the talk, UND and USD are looking at the Summit, as are HBU and SIU-Edwardsville. Utah Valley might be a Summit as well as long as Southern Utah is still in it, and Chicago State looks to be a long-term fix as an independent after basically being booted from the Summit. Savannah State has been shunned by several conferences in the past few years, as has UTPA over many, many years. I haven't heard anything about NJIT or Longwood...... Sorry for the rambling.......let me know if you see differently.

FYI.....MoJo has really died down, as Odessa Permian HS (FNL) has struggled over the past few years in football, which of course is still king in Texas. Odessa/Midland is a decent area.....but is in West Texas.....way out in the middle of BFE. UTPB facilities leave a lot to be desired as well....and their move from NAIA to Division II was not the smartest. They were barely competitive on the NAIA level...... Texas A&M International has money.....and nice facilities.....but is in BFE in a different direction....in North Mexico. Literally right on the border, and the school is very heavy on the Hispanic side. TAMIU also moved from NAIA to D-2 at the same time, so I believe they are both heading into year 2 of the four-year transition. Not that this means anything in the Dakota's....but just thought you might like the info.