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  1. Ok.... UNC forfeits because it won games with an ineligible player. That inelible player had a big part in the wins, but teams like UND and whoever lost to them don't get a win out of a UNC loss??? That seems wrong.

    Yeah, you can't really have two losers for a contest. It also seems incredibly unfair for it to be recorded as a loss for UND when there was an ineligible player on the field.

    The most common forfeitures are in end of season tournaments, in which the winner of the tourney forfeits the win, but the loser get nothing. I think, however, that regular season games are very different because their outcomes still determine post-season eligibility.

    It seems to me that the best solution would be to call it a "no contest", but count it against UNC when determining playoff berths. Unfortunately, the NCC hasn't asked me for my opinion (yet).

  2. Yes, but they announced it Schneider from Notermann and Spiewak on the PA. #7 wasn't even on ice for the +- calculation and yet official score sheet has it Bochenski. I don't know how the players can get that fixed they don't even know it is wrong. It is not a big deal except at the end when the totals are important..

    Good job by all the guys!

    I was just wondering how something so obviously wrong becomes official...

    When you look at UND's site, the text gives the assist to Notermann but the box score gives it to Bochenski.

    http://www.fightingsioux.com/sports/mhocke...RELEASE_ID=1442

    Not sure how such a thing goes wrong, but most media outlets (including USCHO and SiouxSports.com) just post the officially released box score. Attempting to correct it wouldn't be a good precedent.

  3. I remember going to a volleyball game in college now and then. There were usually about 100 fans and not so many wins. Though I don't know much about them, gotta give props to this year's volleyball team.

    They're now 21-2, including the first win over NDSU in 65 matches! The last win over NDSU was in 1976, before the NCC even had women's sports. The attendance at this year's victory over NDSU was 1212, a UND record.

    UND's only conference loss so far was to conference leader, Augustana, who is currently undefeated in the conference. UND gets a chance to even the score TONIGHT in Augustana.

    However, Augustana is apparently quite a powerhouse. In addition to having an 18-game winning streak against UND, they've won the last 11 matches in three games (including the game at UND earlier this Fall).

    Congrats, ladies, and good luck!

  4. The Sioux Falls Argus-Leader fully supports USD's decision and strongly suggests SDSU stay Division II, in spite of SDSU's hope to shed its 'cow college' image.

    Argus-Leader Editorial

    Because the Argus Leader only keeps articles up for a week, it's about to expire. Just so everyone gets a chance to read it, I'll risk (yet another) lawyer sending me copyright-violation nastygrams and reproduce it here:

    Division I too costly

    Editorial Board

    Argus Leader

    published: 10/6/2002

    USD rightly concluded that underfunded state schools can't afford it

    University of South Dakota officials bowed to reality.

    The school's just not in a position to move its athletic programs up to NCAA Division I level. The money isn't there. And success at that level depends on money.

    "It would not be a good move for us athletically, academically or financially," said USD track coach Dave Gottsleben, a member of the committee that studied the possible move for more than a year.

    This still leaves much unsettled, though. USD is a member of the Division II North Central Conference. Conference members Northern Colorado and North Dakota State already have decided to leave and move up to Division I. South Dakota State is considering the same move.

    If the NCC disintegrates, USD is left with a problem.

    So USD's big-show announcement that it would stay Division II no doubt was intended to try to influence others - especially SDSU - not to jump ship.

    SDSU has promised a decision soon. If it takes the same kind of look USD did, it will make the same decision. The way South Dakota has splintered higher education - and the way we underfund it - we just can't accommodate a Division I athletic program and expect any kind of success.

    The attraction for SDSU is obvious. Moving up to Division I would be a bold move that could help the school break away from the pack and shed its cow-college image.

    USD hopes to break away and become a shining star, too - over the long haul, through academics.

    Moving to Division I could bring immediate dividends to SDSU, though. It would add a new marketing tool and could be used to attract more students, especially from outside South Dakota.

    In the long run, though, we come back to the same brick wall USD found: Money.

    Our higher education system already is underfunded, partly because we've made sure colleges are close to just about everyone. We have six publicly funded universities, with close to 30,000 students - ranging from Dakota State University with around 2,000 to SDSU with just under 9,000.

    That's for a state with only 756,000 people.

    Universities elsewhere that have made this move either don't have that kind of competition for state funding or have a much greater population base - and larger state budgets - from which to draw.

    There's a solution to that here in South Dakota. We can increase state funding and close some schools - at least three of the six.

    An alternative would be to develop - quickly - a large corps of wealthy and generous alumni.

    None of this will happen, making the move to Division I a huge risk.

    And without money, that will leave SDSU with - at best - a second-rate athletic program. It simply won't be able to compete with other Division I schools that have more resources.

    Now we'll wait for SDSU's decision. Right or wrong, money will be at the core of it. Either SDSU thinks it can find the money - or it doesn't.

    But if it banks on getting the money, it better have a solid plan in place for doing so. And that will include alumni who already have signed on the dotted line.

    That doesn't seem likely. And that means SDSU should stay Division II.

  5. Next thing you know you'll be telling me only Chinese people should own and run Chinese restaurants. :D

    It depends if you're talking about authentic Chinese, or the more common Americanized Chinese (which can be operated in good conscience by Chinese-Americans).

  6. Any idea when this will be resolved by UNC/the NCAA/the NCC?

    The way I read it, I'd be really surprised if forfeiture comes about.

    The situation is that he had 3 incompletes which he had to retake at CSU before he could transfer to UNC. Though he took the courses, the transcript that CSU sent over didn't yet include a grade for one of the three, the interior design course.

    Cutlip claims that he really took the course and got a grade, so I can't imagine a severe punishment -- it was a simple clerical error (though UNC should have verified his eligibility BEFORE letting him play 3 games).

    On the other hand, if it turns out that he didn't really finish that incomplete, then I think there would be a very good chance that the games would be thrown out.

    The NCAA won't do anything until they know his real status in that course. In fact, the issue isn't even before the NCAA until UNC decides to self-report it, which they haven't yet. As of today (Wednesday) UNC had not officially been able to confirm the status of the course with CSU.

  7. Coaching offices would move to a new building in the parking lot between old REA and Memorial Stadium and a sports bubble would go over Memorial.

    Forgive my stadium construction ignorance, but what does "a sports bubble... over Memorial" mean? I've heard that a lot, and never really understood it.

    Are we talking some sort of dome-like roof? That seems like a pretty expensive retrofit. Whenever I hear about the "sports bubble", I always picture a big plastic bubble that makes Memorial Stadium look like a giant snowglobe (not what everyone's really talking about, I suspect)

  8. http://new.in-forum.com/articles/?id=20414

    If UND doesn't move up but remains competitive with NDSU in football, I would think that NDSU would not want to play a D-II team that might actually beat them, especially if NDSU has playoff hopes.

    If, however, NDSU develops into a much stronger team than UND, I would think UND would quickly lose interest in getting pounded every year by a former competitive rival -- I suspect it would be very painful for a lot of UND fans to be forced to admit that NDSU's football team was actually decisively better. :D

    Just my prediction -- unless they're in the same division, the UND-NDSU games will eventually end. Personally, even in situation #2, I'd love to see it continue for the bragging rights on those rare occasions UND does win.

  9. I don't think that's a Forum editorial, just a Mike McFeely column. I take McFeely's columns with a grain of salt.  He loves to ruffle feathers.  Sometimes I think he is a closet Sioux fan.

    I was using the word "editorial" in the colloquial definition of meaning "opinion piece" -- I didn't mean to imply that it was the opinion of the Forum editorial staff, per se.

    To correct myself -- the above was an opinion column that appeared in the Fargo Forum on the sports page that was written by a regular salaried Forum columnist (the important distinction being that it wasn't a letter submitted by someone from Grand Forks who is part of the conspiracy)

  10. And #12 USA Today. Clearly those being polled think something has changed between this year and last.

    Of course, pre-season polls also have even more of a "tradition" and reputation weight than regular season polls.

  11. Just to make sure that everybody gets this clear: next year, NDSU will have at least 16 DI sports. In addition, they'll probably add another women's sport to get it up to 17 sometime within the next couple of years.

    Good, this is what I thought. NDSU will have a minimum of 16 sports next season, but only need 14 to be a member of D-IAA. Though the Bison plan on adding some women's sports to offset the increasing football scholarships for men, the option will exist in the future to drop a couple sports and still meet the minimum sponsorship requirements.

    This is what I've thought since I learned that NDSU will have 16 instead of 14 in D-I, but every now and then I run into someone who claims that NDSU actually needs 16 instead of 14.

  12. bisonguy:

    Isn't the minimum 7M/7W (or 6M/8W)? I thought NDSU was 8M/8W today.

    I've actually seen conflicting reports on this. The current bylaws, as far as I can read, indicate that for D-IAA that you only need 7/7 or 6/8. However, I've seen Fargo press sources repeat the 16 figure (required for I-A) many times.

    D-IAA requirements:

    https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBi....1&p_CallCount=1

    D-I requirements:

    https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBi....1&p_CallCount=1

  13. I agree wholeheartedly that economic development in ND and Grand Forks is a big problem -- one that certainly isn't solved by paying people to stay in state (a vicious circle of gathering money from all residents and redistributing it to those who make the most threats that they might leave).

    That said, it's a reality of modern education that athletics is one of the most visible marketing efforts a school makes. There are plenty of counter examples, but UND is no MIT. Strong athletics programs are definitely a draw for students and increase name recognition.

    While there are clearly more direct ways to spend money to increase a school's student base and research prowess than investing in athletics, strong athletics programs can contribute to a school's recognition.

  14. Wanless said NDSU should jump and UND should too, or risk being left behind.  Predicts UND will move (not exactly going out on a limb, since he even disclaims it with "eventually".  I'd bet everything I own that UND moves "eventually").

    For those who missed it the first time around, here's what Wanless had to say to the GF Herald shortly after NDSU announced its decision. The article talks mostly about the implications for UND, but mentions NDSU a bit also:

    http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/s...rts/4027971.htm

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