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21 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
Sorry, but UND was nowhere near being consistently the 3rd best team in the country this year.
Agree with you on the season as whole, but I think its arguable over the last 2 weekends of the season
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4 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
In fairness, the FF is not exactly priced at 'good old fashioned, blue collar town, midwestern value, local fan friendly......
I understand the point you are making, but is Duluth that much more blue collar than Grand Forks?
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I certainly would have liked to see Jost stick around for another year for the program to really imprint on him. I suspect having been here less than 12 months he'll barely remember his time at UND.
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21 minutes ago, brianvf said:
You're correct
Clearly, we're not married
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2 hours ago, PCM said:
I was thinking that Karl Goehring wore the C his senior year, even though he couldn't officially act as the team captain.
He did one year, but if I recall correctly he gave it up after a while as it was difficult to act as a captain and play the position. it's been a long time, though, so someone feel free to correct me.
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3 hours ago, UNDhoops said:
when i think captain someone who had a save percentage around .900 doesn't spring to mind.
Armbrust's save % wasn't nearly that good....
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11 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:
Next year's team will struggle offensively.........and this year's team was shut out, I believe, 5 times.
True but they played without Boeser, or a healthy Boeser for a good share of the season. That accounts for some of it.
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1 hour ago, PCM said:
If that's the case, I would suggest that the NCAA follow the same procedure used during the regular season. If it doesn't have the resources to fairly and accurately review zone entry in a timely manner, then it shouldn't be using a deficient procedure for the playoffs.
agree completely with this
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No kidding, Brock must be loving the NHL compared to D1 defenses/goalies. Couldn't get those through either position at this level this year.
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1 hour ago, SJHovey said:
There was a similarly interesting situation in the Wild game last night, if any of you happened to catch it (including Oshie's game winner in OT). The Wild were down one in the last minute and had pulled the goalie. They entered the zone on a cross ice pass to Spurgeon, who then dumped the puck. After some skirmishes along the end wall, a Washington player got possession and shot the puck up the center of the ice, about 7 feet off the ice surface. Koivu reached up, while on the blue line, grabbed the puck and dropped it down onsides. A few seconds later the Wild scored. Toronto wanted to review for offsides.
At first there was a question of whether they were reviewing Koivu's catch, which was pretty close, but seemed like it should be onsides. Then it became clear they were looking at the initial entry.
In a scenario like that one it's really hard to see how the initial offsides (it wasn't, by the way) could have played any role in the play and further supports PCM's logic. I would have liked to have heard some discussion from the announcers or others about the change of possession and whether that should have nullified any advantage gained had Spurgeon been offsides.
I saw that and was curious how that would play out, too. In the end, though, I agree with the logic employed to a certain extent. The initial offsides (if it was really offsides but not called) may not have provided an advantage to the attacking team, but the play that followed would never have happened if the call was made correctly on the ice. I do understand the logic here, and can understand the argument that says "yeah, but if the linesman had made the correct call in the first place we'd have never been scored on". I think that is a valid argument too.
I also agree with the larger question of "well, in hockey there are lots of examples of things that are let go, so why does a missed offsides get to retroactively affect the game?" Someone, above, brought up a GREAT point.....especially late in games but even throughout officials will allow crosschecking, holding and interference in front of the net that would be called a penalty in other places on the rink. Why is that allowed, but a missed offsides is reviewable?Reason is called for and at some point reasonable people should find a concensus on how far back to go to review this sort of thing..
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8 hours ago, PCM said:
The point of my blog to which The Sicatoka graciously posted the link was not to contest whether Hoff was offsides, but to suggest that the NCAA apply the "no harm, no foul" precedent it set when it changed the man in the crease rule. The change recognized that even if a member of the attacking team was in the crease when technically he wasn't supposed to be, the goal would count if his presence didn't interfere with the goalie's ability to make a save.
After reviewing a replay of Bowen's disallowed OT goal, there are a some facts worth noting.
- From the time Olson carried the puck into the zone and Bowen scored, 29 seconds elapsed.
- The linesman in ideal position to determine if the play was onside signaled the zone entry good. Nobody on either team held up as if they expected an offsides call.
- Coming in on the rush, Olson fed a pass to Bowen high in the slot. He skated to near the top of the right circle and fired a wrist shot that went wide right. From that point on, it was completely matter of chance as to which team gained control of the puck.
- At one point during the 29 seconds UND was in BU's zone, a Terriers' forward had control of the puck. He could have banked it off the glass, chipped it out or lobbed it out. But he tried to skate it out and Olson picked his pocket. It was this play by Olson that ultimately led to Bowen's goal.
- By the time Bowen scored, whether or not the zone entry was legal became totally irrelevant. Through hard work, cycling and a strong forecheck, UND kept the puck in the zone to create the scoring opportunity.
- An official made the mistake of allowing play to continue. A BU player made the mistake that led to UND's goal. And yet it was UND -- which received absolutely no advantage from one of its players being offsides by what appeared to be a razor-thin margin at best -- that was penalized for the unnoticed infraction.
Personally, I don't think this was fair way to handle the situation, especially when a team's season and a trip to the Frozen Four are on the line. If the NCAA is going to review playoff goals for offsides infractions, it needs a much better system. It needs high-speed, high-resolution digital imaging cameras positioned on each blue line to quickly provide indisputable evidence. The camera the officials used to overturn UND's OT goal was neither designed for nor positioned for this critical task.
I think I understand the logic in going back to the zone entry to review a questionable entry, but you have laid out an oustanding argument why a situation like this provides a possible reason to NOT review that far back. I get it...the idea is if the zone entry was illegal play should have been stopped (it wasn't but should have been) and that would have negated all that came after. But it seems reasonable to apply some, ah, reason to the situation and you've laid out a good case study for it. I'm still burned by what is considered incontrovertible evidence, because I don't think what the public has had access to meets the criteria.
(welcome back, PCM!)
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13 hours ago, jk said:
I'm bitter, I admit it. The UND team that I saw beat Denver 12 days ago could very easily have repeated. They were in prime playoff form. A rematch with Denver would have been an epic game.
Fast forward 24 hours and UMD had taken out the Sioux's top defenseman, the quarterback on UND's PP and it's top penalty killer, on a questionable hit. For good measure, they blatantly ran UND's goalie. Does anyone doubt Poolman would have made a difference against BU? Put your PP QB back in, and it makes both the first and second units more effective.
So the last thing I want to see is UMD winning. Which means of course they will.
Pretty much how i feel too
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7 hours ago, BobbyMKunz said:
Let me know any tips for fitting in and how to adjust. Thanks.
Do unto others.....
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1 hour ago, burd said:
Why do you want to fit in with this bunch. What is wrong with you?
Post of the year!
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10 hours ago, yzerman19 said:
He still got a rookie Max...
Agreed, I wasn't saying it hurt Brock. I wonder if guys start to weigh the risk of getting hurt while in college, before they sign that contract. Or the chance of an injury affecting the contract options they could have.
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I wonder how much Boeser being injured most of the year affects how guys look at signing early
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On 3/24/2017 at 11:21 PM, siouxforce19 said:
I don't want to come across as being salty/bitter/insert adjective here and if anyone wants to call me that... I've been called worse so have at it ... but when you're ready to sign so soon after a heart breaking season ending loss, that doesn't make me feel all that great.
That said, this isn't about me and isn't something I didn't expect. Appreciate his contributions in his time here and wish him the best.
Travis Roche
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If it goes long enough UMD won't even have to fake it
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As said, keep shooting and get bodies in front. That pinball will end up on our paddle eventually
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Just now, Siouxphan27 said:
Feels like we have to score the next goal to win.
I feel that way too. Nice recovery after a tough first 5 or so minutes of the 2nd. I like the last half of the period, need to keep that up and not make a bad mistake that costs us
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Just now, geaux_sioux said:
Where are these refs from? And why does my phone work in here?
I think I read they are Big10
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20 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said:
I like how the announcers refer to Fargo as UND's backyard. You know, where the dog poops.
:-)
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9 hours ago, SiouxUSAF said:
Hello everyone! Been lurking on here for the past couple of weeks to get insight because I've never paid this close of attention to the Playoff process. I went to UND pre name change and joined the military among other things and now am back to finish my degree. I'm from Duluth, but saw the Frozen Faceoff with my own eyes and any loyalty I had for the team my dad had season tickets to when I was a kid is gone after that fiasco.
Now, back on topic, I just didn't want to do my first post and have people wonder who I am
I scored a ticket the the regional and had a question about the fan fest. Is beer comparable in price to what it would be at the Ralph/X/Target Center or is it cheaper? Is it quicker to get in from the fan fest versus the normal gate? I'm just trying decide whether it's worth it to get a ticket to it or not.
Welcome aboard and thank you for your service
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5 hours ago, scpa0305 said:
Agreed, he wasn't working with the normal pairs though. And his responses made it sound like he's a long shot. We'll find out a tomorrow.
my gut perceived the same thing based on what I read
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