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I agree. You should never give up on your players, no matter how high the odds are stacked against you. That's exactly what Shanley did. When you start giving up on your players, they'll start giving up on you.

Will do.

The word is squeaking. Not sqweaking.

To be honest with you, when Fargo Norths line of Bombenger, Klein, and Bekkedahl were clicking (which was pretty often) they were hands down the best line in the state. There may have been times where it seemed as though they were playing selfish, but in my mind those times were overshadowed by smart passes and creativity. If you find yourself unable to agree with my analysis, I suggest you contact Coach Erickson, and ask him to borrow a game tape from this season.

Haha. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you when you say the conference is down this year. But you said West Fargo was worse than they have been, which may be true in some regards. On the other hand, they can't be much worse. I am not certain, but I believe West Fargo has only been to the state tournement once. The consistency of play by teams was terrible. The only teams that were consistant were Red River, Wahpeton, and Shanley. Red River was good, while you could always count on the other two to play poorly.

Demers was shafted in my opinion. I have never been overly impressed by the play of Ian Powers. To me, he has below average footspeed and hands that are decent at best. Narveson was either very good for North, or not very good at all. I'm sure consistency was the main reason he was left off the all conference list. That and the other defenseman named are not exactly terrible.

Jundt is a big boy. I am not surprised to hear he fought.

It's never easy beating a quality opponent three times in a row. Should be a good game.

I believe the voting for the all conference teams occurs today. The players will know before their second game I believe, so by word of mouth some of us should know a few names. Otherwise we have to wait until the ceremony after the championship game.

You specifically stated in your post that, "A 4.0 student who studies all the time while taking 16-20 credits a semester may fare quite poorly in grad school where the average load is often 32 credits a semester, by the same measurement. If he/she already studies all the time for the 20 credits, where's the time for the other 12?". I never see the word hours anywhere in your previous post.

Someone who forgot to research their posts before they type them was just taught how to. Very well stated, NDpride.

Good point, Cold. The argument was though, if the award of Mr. Hockey was given to the best hockey player, most other factors should be left out. Because, simply going by the name of the award, it should be given to the best hockey player. But if other factors are considered, some would argue a seperate award should be given to those who excel inside the classroom and are model citizens outside the rink. If the award is intended to be given to the best hockey player (which it is, and is not) then other factors would not be included (grades, criminal record).

Very good, and very true post. Some may think this statement is outlandish but I believe Fargo North has the top line in the state. They might not have the top 3 players in the state, but they move the puck very well (for the most part) and are always moving. If you would have seen the game against South I think it was fairly apparent to who had the best line in that game. And it was Fargo North. I don't like the Wests odds if they are banking on Jamestown beating North or DL in the opening game of the state tournement. Jamestown has a history of taking dumb penalties and I would not be surprised to see that take the game out of their hands.

I think our definitions of "good team" might be a little bit different.

Spenningsby? Kicked out of a game for fighting? I would have never guessed...

What other Mr. Hockey winners have had minors on their record prior to being named Mr. Hockey? In any case, if he is eligible, that does not mean it will not affect whether or not he wins. Although I believe the award should be given to the best hockey player in the state, other factors are considered in the voting. These include prior legal issues, grades, and community service. Some people are naturally better students than others, just like some are naturally better athletes. While legal issues can give some insight to the character of a certain player, in some cases, grades cannot. Some people may have to put in more effort to get a B, than someone else does to get an A. Because of that, I don't think that should be highly considered in the voting process.

Because of his prior legal issues? Good question.

Haha. In many cases that is very true. I like the analogy.

Let's use some logical thinking. Fargo South loses to Red River 8-0. Earlier in the season Grafton lost to Red River by a score of 3-2. By your reasoning, Grafton should have beat South by a score similar to that (7-0). But that is not what happend, on both meetings Grafton lost to Fargo South. Game scores as well as other statistics (PIMs, goals, assists, points, blocked shots, takeouts) are just that. Statistics. Statistics are merely a presentation of numbers of things that were done in the past. When success in the past gaurentees success in the future, I will use statistics as a measuring as to how future events will occur.

They did not specify whether or not an offers had been made by any colleges.

Andy Dittus has not committed to any college at this point in time. First hand information.

Only time will tell.

No. I said I believe almost all of them were drafted into the NHL. But yes, just under half of the defensmen were drafted into the NHL. I was under the impression Chay Genoway was drafted but that is not the case. Was there anything else you would like to add to the topic?

The topic at hand was those players being recruited for UND. I responded as I saw fit. You forgot to mention that Nick Kresbach transferred from Wayne State to play club hockey at NDSU. I knew Eickman went on to play division one after playing for the Lincoln Stars, but I was unsure as to where. There is a chance that one of those players will play on a division one squad. My bet would be on Galbreath. But if your basis for playing division one hockey after high school is based solely on their success in high school you're not looking at the bigger picture. Maybe you should take a closer look at what many great ND players are doing in the junior ranks. Look at the stats for Marc Mihulka, Paul Weisgarber, Tyler Jundt, Andy Dittus and compare that to their high school stats. I would find your posts to much more credible and well thought out if you could provide me some information or statistics that show the odds of playing division one hockey are in their favor.

I agree with your point to some extent. More coaches need to focus on some of the smaller details. Sometimes it is not possible for a coach to stop a practice and point out every little detail. But, from watching many practices at different age levels, the players now adays are becoming less coachable. Maybe it's because their parents are letting them come on the site and read the posts. Coaches don't paid enough to deal with spoiled kids and ignorant parents.