Ray77
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15 minutes ago, cberkas said:
The Fleury thing is getting interesting, they have to protect Murray, otherwise they just threw away their future goalie. I kept hearing during the trade deadline Fleury is going to Vegas and they want him.
Vegas isn't going to do a trade unless it's a big time player.
As of right now I'd take TVR and Bishop. If Pittsburgh leaves Murray unprotected I'd take him with Bishop. I have to wonder does Zuker want to go to Vegas?
Edit: Murray is the only goalie Pittsburgh has to expose.
Another top notch site:
Out here you can click the "Draft your Vegas team" at the top of the page. Here it will go through each NHL team and show the players who meet or are projected to meet the exposure requirements. Check out Pittsburgh!
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2 hours ago, cberkas said:
Since the trade deadline is over, might as well speculate what players will be exposed for the expansion draft.
Fleury was shopped during the trade deadline. I saw that someone said his NMC doesn't keep him protected by Pittsburgh. Pittsburg is going to protect Murray, you know that AHL caliber goalie.
Kings getting Bishop makes me think Quick is gone.
Stafford looks to be who the Bruins will expose.
From something I read van Riemsdyke was who Vegas would pick. Chicago getting Oduya might help Vegas not pick van Riemsdyke.
Rules for 2017 Expansion Draft
This is a great read. If I'm understanding it correctly, Fleury now HAS to be protected by the Pens. It reads "* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits)."
As Fleury has a NMC, I believe that'll mean that the have to protect him. If so, they messed up - unless they work some sort of deal between now and the draft. I could also be interpreting this incorrectly, too.
Regarding Stafford - you're right, there's no way the Bruins protect him. However, they can only protect either seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender OR eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender, so there will be several players from each team that are exposed (I think). Add to that the fact that Stafford will be a UFA after this year, so he's not under contract for 2017-18, so he won't qualify for the Bruins player exposure requirements.
Man, this stuff is fascinating to me, and I think this is going to be really fun trying to predict what teams are going to do and then to see how Vegas puts together their team! Great topic!
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11 hours ago, MafiaMan said:
Sucks? SUCKS??? This is GREAT news, MafiaMan! He's been having a down year (40GP, 4G, 9A) so I hope this is the spark that he needed and could be a great fit. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of his season goes in Boston, and as a UFA this year, if this gets him going and where he'll sign next year.
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21 minutes ago, Yote 53 said:
Regarding SW MN hockey, it is growing and the programs are getting better. Luverne is hockey crazy right now and they have some great groups coming up through the ranks. Having coached against a good cross section of youth teams this past year, and over the past several years, from SD, and the Midwest, to ND across to Duluth, to the Cities, into Wisconsin, down into southern MN from Rochester across to Luverne I think I have a pretty good feel for what is going on. Some of those southern MN towns, Luverne, New Ulm, Litchfield, Hutchinson, Albert Lea, and Owatonna, in particular, are putting teams on the ice just as good or better than many of the northern and city programs. There is a shift happening and over the next decade you will see that play out in the Class A tournament in St. Paul as the southern schools begin to have some real good showings. Class AA won't change much as the Rochester program has to feed so many schools it dilutes the HS teams.
Back to the present, what is the schedule for games today. Stream on WDAY again for us out-of-staters?
http://www.ndhsaanow.com/tournaments/icehockey-boys
I haven't found anything about a stream yet, since the games will be on TV...but I'd guess you might be able to stream it again just like yesterday? It was here yesterday:
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Just now, OgieOgilthorpe said:
Isn't that SunMart arena the one with like 10 foot tall ceilings above the ice? Classic shack!
You are correct. Old time hockey!
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6 minutes ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said:
How many sheets of ice are there in Fargo/West Fargo these days?
5 in Fargo - 6 if you count the Angels Arena (old SunMart Arena) - Coliseum, Teamsters, South High, 2 at Southwest
2 at Scheels Arena (main rink and Farmer's Union)
2 at WF high school
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15 minutes ago, cberkas said:
Claude Julien now the head coach of the Canadians.
UnFnbelievable.
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Reading this thread is interesting. For some perspective, I remember watching the Sioux play UMD in the HoF game in 1988. That game was played in Eveleth, MN, the home of the US Hockey Hall of Fame. I'd guess there were several hundreds of people there! OK...maybe a thousand or so...
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13 minutes ago, gfhockey said:
The termite 2s in gf have a big group coming up
I have to admit...this made me laugh!
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35 minutes ago, sioux rube said:
Hitchcock out in St Louis. It's Yeo time.
28 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:Hmmmmmmmmmm.............def not an upgrade IMO.
And I believe Hitchcock was 1 game away from tying Al Arbour for third place in all time coaching wins.
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17 minutes ago, Blackheart said:
Bruins with a nice win last night over the Pens. Everyone's favorite, Marchand, with 2 goals. Phil Kessel and David Backes almost went to fisticuffs.
That would have been funny.
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9 hours ago, DaveK said:
While at the same time Wisconsin inches closer to bubble territory. Literally two-thirds of the Big Ten teams are now among the top 20 in PWR. Not too shabby for an allegedly terrible conference.
I don't know about you, but I'd go even a step further with your Big Ten positivity...100% of the Big Ten teams are in the top 47 in PWR!
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8 hours ago, DaveK said:Last year I would have said the UND Fighting Hawks were scary good. There has not been a team called Fighting Sioux since the 2010-11 season.
DaveK logic 101:
The Fighting Sioux have 7 National Championships and the Fighting Hawks have 1. How could you say they have 8, when the Fighting Hawks didn't exist for the first 7, and the Fighting Sioux were gone for the last one.
The Big10 has 23 National Championships to their name.
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21 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said:
Thank you!
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8 minutes ago, cberkas said:
The Canadians would be penalized if they don't have a goalie available, Lindgren is safe so get a goalie to be safe then sorry.
Gotcha. Makes sense why the Bruins then signed Khudobin to a 2 year deal. Although they've since waived him and he's now buried in the minors, so it looks like Zane might be the goalie they make available - unless he falls in the "All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits" category. In that case, I have no idea how they'll handle this - maybe they'll have to recall Khudobin before the end of the season? Man, this is interesting and will get fun once it comes time for this expansion draft!
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32 minutes ago, cberkas said:
Canadians signed Montoya to protect Price for the draft, I don't see Montoya getting picked by Vegas. Once you see what teams are doing to protect their goalies, that will tell who Vegas will be targeting.
Do AHL players count or do they have to be on the NHL team? I read the rules as they have to be on the NHL roster.
I agree with you. To add to this, Price has a no trade clause, which means he's automatically protected, and each team gets to protect 1 goalie anyways, so there is no chance that Price would be left for Vegas to poach him, whether or not they signed Montoya or not.
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24 minutes ago, cberkas said:
Canadians signed Montoya to protect Price for the draft, I don't see Montoya getting picked by Vegas. Once you see what teams are doing to protect their goalies, that will tell who Vegas will be targeting.
Do AHL players count or do they have to be on the NHL team? I read the rules as they have to be on the NHL roster.
This is a great discussion! Here is how I understand it (and certainly could be wrong about some of this). Vegas has to take 1 player from each team and must take at least 14 forwards, 9 defensemen and 3 goaltenders. At least 20 of these players must be under contract for the 2017-18 season. With their picks, they have to get to at least 60% of the Salary Cap.
Players that are not eligible to be taken by Vegas are players who are first and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices. By my understanding, AHL players under contract would be eligible to be taken, however due to the rules I think it's pretty slim chance that Vegas would take a player from the AHL.
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8 minutes ago, cberkas said:
Is Murray protected by the Pens or is Fleury? If Murray isn't protected by the end or the year he'll be in Vegas, but I have heard that Fleury is going to be in Vegas next year.
Here where, if my understanding is correct, Pittsburgh may be screwed. Fleury has a Modified No Trade Clause, which I think means they have to protect him. If so, since he's a protected goalie I don't believe they'd be able to protect 2 goales. Unless Murray falls under this category:
* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
This is a GREAT read, if you're looking to understand the upcoming expansion draft - Rules for 2017 Expansion Draft. This upcoming June 17 - 20 when teams have to submit their lists and the Vegas franchise chooses their players is going to be fantastic to watch this all unfold! If someone can figure out a way to do some kind of Fantasy game where we can project who the Vegas team will take I'd be in! I'm not sure what that would look like or how you'd do it, especially since there will be such a short timeframe from when teams submit their lists and when Vegas chooses their players. But this would be fun!
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9 hours ago, DaveK said:
I'm happy that my favorite team won, but that was an embarrassing display of goaltending. Can they please pull the plug on the Murray experiment already? The kid is an AHL caliber goalie, send him back down or at the very least keep him on the bench where he belongs. People can say what they will about Fleury. Yeah, he had a brutal 2nd/3rd period in Detroit this past Saturday. Yeah, he suffered through an uncharacteristic slump back in November. Yeah, he was the starting goalie for Penguin teams that lost in the playoffs in each season from 2009-10 through 2014-15. But at the end the day he is on pace to enter the NHL's all-time top five leaders in wins at some point within the next few years, so he must be doing something right.
OK...I'll bite. You're really reaching here to save face on your Marc-Andre Fleury love-fest. I could really care less, but let's take a look at the numbers:
This year:
Fleury in 27 GP has a .904 save percentage and a 3.23 GAA
Murray in 21 GP has a .916 save percentage and a 2.53 GAA
Career:
Fleury has a .912 save percentage and a 2.58 GAA
Murray has a .921 save percentage and a 2.32 GAA
By the age of 22 (which Murray is now). This would have been Fleury's first 3 season with Pitt (Murray's 2nd):
Fleury has a 900 save percentage and a 3.24 GAA
Murray (same as Career numbers above) has a Murray has a .921 save percentage and a 2.32 GAA
Playoffs:
Fleury has a .906 save percentage and a 2.66 GAA
Murray has a .911 save percentage and a 2.08 GAA
Stanley Cups:
Fleury has 2 (one with Murray as the starter) and won his first one at the age of 24
Murray has 1 which was won at the age of 21
After the tale of the tape here, I don't know Dave. You can have your favorite goalie out of the two for your own reasons - there's nothing wrong with that, but to say they need to end the "Murray experiment" and that he's an AHL caliber goalie, etc. is a bit crazy, even by your standards - and that's saying something!
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21 hours ago, Goon said:
I thought that hit was dirty. In the NHL he'd be looking at a suspension.
I'm not so sure. This hit wasn't given a suspension, and Shaw is a serial offender.
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9 hours ago, sioux rube said:
Wild are:
-5th in the league in points, 2nd in the West (57)
-5th in the league in goals for, 1st in the West (130)
-2nd in the league in goals against, 1st in the West (86)
-2nd in the league in goal differential, 1st in the West (+44)Also, keep in mind that while they're 5th in the league in points, they have:
- 3 games in hand over the 4th team
- 4 games in hand over the 3rd team
- 1 game in had over the 2nd team
- 0 games in hand over the 1st team
They're also tied with Pittsburgh and the NY Rangers in points, but have 1 and 2 games in hand over those two teams, respectively.
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Tibs meet Fenton
in Men's Hockey
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Ooph...Freudian slip, or was that on purpose?!