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  1. Administer is synonymous with apply some around here would argue..........

    I must have really hurt your delicate feelings at some point.  You take any opportunity you can to take a shot at me or make a snide comment.

     

    Administer is synonymous with managing a process.  Applying would potentially be a part of that process.  An application is often the starting point in the process.  It may be difficult to get the process started without some kind of application or starting point.  Is that simple enough for you to understand?

  2. The red t-shirt is cool; but, I'm enjoying reading 14.2.4 of my NCAA Division I manual. That says the conferences administer the hardship waivers (14.2.4.2). They'll go by what the book says is my guess. 

     

     

    More importantly, this conversation is too much of a downer. 

     

    How about we talk about how MarkMac is going to heal wonderfully and be back on the ice in four weeks instead. 

    I couldn't find a section 14.2.4 in the 2014-2015 NCAA Division I manual.  You may have an old manual.  I did find a couple of places in Section 12 that cover the topic.  First, Section 12.8.1.5 covers the Five Year Rule Waiver.  The Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, a part of the NCAA, makes the decision on this process in this section.  Waivers can be given for circumstances beyond the control of the student-athlete, which can include injury. 

     

    Then you can go to Section 12.8.4 which discusses the Hardship Waiver.  It says:

     

    A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of "hardship."  Hardship is defined as an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions:

    The conditions include the first part of year, less than 30% and during the initial 4 years.  In this case the Committee can also over-rule the conference if they refuse the additional year.

     

    The manual doesn't spell out what the process involves in either case.  However, you can be sure that the process involves filling out forms and providing documentation.  The NCAA doesn't do anything without the proper paperwork.  Filling out forms would be considered an "application".  "Administering" or managing the process would include reviewing the application.  The process isn't guaranteed to result in getting the extra year.

  3. i don't disagree with you on most of this other than you comparing hyslop to a crappy big box fast food joint like mcdonalds....

    Didn't compare Hyslop to a fast food joint.  I was talking in general about replacing buildings rather than remodeling.  I don't see Hyslop being torn down.  I believe that they plan to use Hyslop as the center of the Physical Education department.  I don't see basketball going back to that building.  If they remodel it will be more cosmetic than structural, which means much less will be needed for asbestos or lead abatement.  Other programs like Wisconsin and Ohio State have facilities that are shared for hockey and basketball.  The combination of the Ralph, the Betty and the Olympic rink could be used to accommodate all programs.  I don't know if we will see another building any time soon.

  4. I got one and I KNOW I'm not important. Let's assume the best if you didn't get one it might be in your spam, it might be because they don't have your email address, or it might be because they just screwed up.

    Or it might just be the luck of the draw because they can't invite everyone. 

  5. why would boosters have to pay for a state facility to be up to state codes in terms of saftey to the fans?? seems odd to me...

     

    also seems like fuzzy math when you compare asbestos and lead abatement on a historical and structurally safte building instead of acquiring land, architects to design a new building, and then the cost of buildinga comparable building?  seems like one would be a better option cost wise but when the gf/und gogc get going you seem to see the same architect, contractors, and whatnot salivating about new better projects around town...

    UND hasn't paid for land for any of the new projects for years.  The land where the REA is and the new med school was all donated many years ago.  It has been quite a while since they bought the property where the Aviation building is going up and where the Center for Innovation is located.  You need to hire an architect whether you are building a new building or doing a major remodeling project on an existing building.  Asbestos and lead abatement are definitely a significant cost.  But many times it is cheaper to tear down a building and replace it than remodel.  That's why you see McDonalds and other companies tear down existing buildings and start over rather than just remodel.  It takes a lot more time to work around the constraints of a current structure than it does to get rid of it and build something new.  That time adds up.  If cost is going to be one of the major deciding factors, then they will replace rather than remodel in many cases.

  6. In visiting with various friends, as we are all "so called" experts, we speculated that due to lead paint, asbestos etc..- that makes it impossible to renovate the Hyslop.   UND can continue to use it...as long as it continues to do so undisturbed, for if they do disturb it ie.renovate etc... there is so much of it, the whole building would have to come down-due to the amount of hazardous materials.    So UND/Athletics go on using it as is. Maybe this is incorrect, but who knows.

     

    I also find it odd, that a University- the flagship school in North Dakota, which has athletics, has not added any of it's own additional new buildings with the exception of the Indoor Performance Facility...since who knows when.  That does seem a bit odd.  Obviously there was time when the state did build athletic buildings.. Hyslop, Memorial...apparently those days are long past.

    It isn't impossible to renovate a building with asbestos or with lead paint.  However, it is more costly.  Sometimes it is much more costly.  Both lead paint and asbestos have to be contained.  Even the dust can be dangerous, especially if breathed.  Workers need to have the proper protection.  They need to use the proper masks or breathing apparatus, and also need to wear protective coverings.  They should wear disposable shoe coverings so they don't track the dust out of the work area, and normally would wear some kind of suit that is either disposable or cleaned on  a regular basis. 

     

    The easiest way to deal with both asbestos and lead paint is to keep them intact and covered.  If they are covered and aren't damaged they normally aren't dangerous.  That's why it is easier to just make cosmetic changes to the building rather than making any major physical changes.  I don't know for sure, but there may also be some rulings that would force them to remove the asbestos from the entire building if they renovate part of the building.

     

    I believe that Hyslop is still used for a lot of Physical Education classes.  Part of the reason for building new facilities and moving Athletics out of Hyslop was to make room for Phy Ed classes.  Hyslop was way over booked for many years.

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  7. I got one.  My guess is that they have lists of alumni, season ticket holders, faculty, staff, students, community leaders, etc.  They are sending these emails out to random people from all of these lists, and then will cut that number down again when they have a list of people that are both interested and available.  The email said they wanted 80 people each night from the groups that they invite.  These people will be active participants in the groups.  The meetings are open to the public, so others are free to attend.  They will have an opportunity to submit ideas and suggestions, but won't be part of the active discussion during the meetings.

  8. We're playing semantics with the word "apply" I suspect. 

     

    As things stand now, Mark qualifies for the medical provision (this season not counting as a "season of competition") if he doesn't play another game. It'd be allowed per NCAA rules as written. To me that's not "apply" (meaning ask for); it's a notification to the NCAA that we're enacting and following this rule as written. 

     

    One would "apply" (ask for) a sixth season for some athletes under unique circumstances (and that's why those are rare). 

     

    ap·ply
    əˈplī/
    verb
    verb: apply; 3rd person present: applies; past tense: applied; past participle: applied; gerund or present participle: applying
    1.
    make a formal application or request.
    "you need to apply to the local authorities for a grant"
    synonyms: put in an application for, put in for, try (out) for, bid for, appeal for, petition for, sue for, register for, audition for; More

    Whether he qualifies or not, he still has to officially apply for the 5th year.  The certainty of the application being approved does not change the fact that an application has to be made.  And after watching the NCAA over the years you should know that nothing is automatic.

     

    How to Get a Medical Redshirt

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    Injuries are a fact of life in sports, but in college they carry extra weight. Serious injuries cause athletes to lose some of the precious time they have competing in college athletics. Time marches on, whether it’s the four seasons an athlete can play, the five-year clock in Division I, or the 10-semester/15-quarter rule in Divisions II and III.

    The NCAA has a process for giving athletes back seasons they lose to injury. It is commonly called a medical red-shirt, but the technical term is a medical hardship waiver. A student-athlete’s school must apply for the waiver, and it can be granted or denied. Every waiver that meets the published criteria is granted, with rare exceptions.

    http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/07/17/how-get-medical-redshirt.htm

  9. He wouldn't have to "apply". You have five academic years to complete four seasons of competition. He never redshirted so his "academic years" clock is on four.

     

    A season "counts" if you play in more than 30% of scheduled games or if you play in any game in the second half of the season. (Mark's used three "seasons of competition".)

     

    Given that MarkMac played in six games (5 plus exhibition) so far, and that there are more than 30 games on the schedule this isn't a "season of competition" for him yet.

     

    Would he want to come back? Would he need to (would Habs want him to) to make sure he's healed?

     

    But we are way ahead of ourselves on this.

     

    Let's see where he's at when he's cleared by his doctors. Given that they did surgery right away, I suspect he has some significant OT/PT to get through. 

    I believe that he would still have to apply for the 5th year.  If you start playing games, the year counts.  That's why redshirt players are not allowed to play in a single game.  However, they will normally give the 5th year if less than 30% of the games are played because of injury and if the player is unable to play at all in the 2nd half of the season (and if the player did not redshirt earlier).  If Mark can't return this season, and if he wants to return, there is a very good chance he would get the 5th year.

  10. I think there's a sale for them sometime this week but not sure.

     

     

    Yeah. I know. Of any remain they to on sale to the general public tomorrow. Are there none left?

    They had to save a block of tickets to sell to the general public.  They also have blocks of tickets set aside for each of the 4 schools that will play in the regional.  My guess is that each block is probably approximately 500 tickets.  The block for the general public will go on sale tomorrow, October 28th at 11 am.  I believe they are available only in person or online through the NCAA website, www.ncaa.com/FrozenFour.

  11. Did Chris Carter get hurt too or no? Someone told me he was but don't know if there's any truth to it

    They helped him off the field and it didn't look like he could put any weight on his left leg.

  12. 7-6 in 2012, 8-5 in 2013, and 4-4 so far in 2014. Awfully impressive from 2004-2011, though.

    Or maybe it's the fact that he has taken the team to a bowl game every year since 1993.

  13. The outrage is on Washington's nickname not the logo where as in Cleveland it's chief Wahoo that NA is pissed about not the nickname Indians. Maybe the two should swap. The Washington Indians with their current logo, and the Cleveland Indians with the Washington Redskins logo. Mahnomen HS is nicknamed Indians and a lot of schools have a logo like the Redskins so maybe a compromise can be reached.

    The entire situation keeps developing.  At some point people will want to get rid of both nickname and logo for both Washington and Cleveland.  It will happen with other Native American nicknames and logos.  The furor over the Redskins nickname is just the latest step in the process.  Mahnomen is on a reservation, so many of the students actually are Indians.  That isn't a good comparison.

  14. Fair enough.  But in light of recent developments with the Redskins issue, the collective noise coming from the Sooner State (as reported by OK-based media) was very anti-nickname and nobody seemed too concerned with splitting hairs.  Have to wonder if the tide there has turned in the past several years.

    The Redskins name and the Cleveland Indians name and logo are causing more people to speak out all over the country.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see even more people come out against all Native American nicknames.  Several people predicted this would happen during the Fighting Sioux name debate.  Florida State has permission to use the Seminole name right now, but they have no guarantee that they will have that permission forever.

  15. If I am not mistaken, the FLORIDA Seminoles signed off; the OKLAHOMA Seminoles were not even asked (and to this day are opposed).

    The Oklahoma Seminoles are not opposed as a tribe.  They have made no efforts to show any opposition.  Before the NCAA set up the ban, they believed that the Oklahoma Seminoles would be opposed and it is believed that the NCAA was going to use that opposition to completely ban Native American nicknames.  It turns out that 1 very vocal member of tribal government had misrepresented the position of the Oklahoma tribe.  He was opposed.  The tribe never addressed the issue.  That is when the NCAA set up the local tribe approval exception that Florida State, Utah and a few other schools were able to use.  It was their way out of a fight with Florida State.  There have been some individuals with the Oklahoma Seminole tribe that have expressed some opposition, but it has never been brought to tribal government.

  16. Where were all the UND legal minds to let this get this far.  There is no way you can have a seminole in Florida and not a sioux in ND.  The NCAA sucks.

    The court system seems to disagree with you.

  17. Again, new to this, sorry. Anyone know if an injunction has been filed towards the ncaa? From a fanbase standpoint, I believe you could argue your rights are being violated. By allowing FSU and other teams to keep their nickname, they are discriminating against UND. Anyone try to have some of that fun? I also presume its past that point of trying, but I would be willing to bet could get the ncaa to pucker a bit. Please educate me. Again, sorry if thats needed

    You're 6-8 years late.  All legal means were attempted.  Here, http://www.ag.nd.gov/ncaa/SettlementAgreement.pdf, is the settlement agreement from the UND lawsuit against the NCAA.  The North Dakota Legislature tried putting the name in state law, and lost a lawsuit against the NCAA.  UND was not the only school that was forced to quit using a Native American nickname and/or logo, multiple other schools also lost either or both.  Approximately 6 schools were allowed to keep their nicknames out of more than 20 that had Native American names before the rule was put in place.  The only way the nickname could be used would be if UND left the NCAA, or if the NCAA ceased to exist and were replaced by another organization (and that organization would probably have a similar rule).

  18. What? The number of college hockey players in the NHL has consistently been rising the last few years and may be at an all time high this season. 

    You are correct, the number of former college hockey players in the NHL is at an all time high.  Last year 305 former college players spent time in the NHL.  However, that is a small percentage of former college players that are in the right age range to play in the NHL.  Redneksioux is probably conservative.  My guess is that somewhere between 5 and 10% of college players will spend at least a little time in the NHL.  The number that spend a full year in the league is probably 3% or less.  The numbers grow quite a bit if you include all of professional hockey.

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