82SiouxGuy

Spirit Lake can use the Sioux name because they are Sioux. But UND isn't giving the rights to the Fighting Sioux nickname or logo to anyone. And it wouldn't be giving them back to Spirit Lake because Spirit Lake never gave them to UND. UND adopted the name because it was available and they filed for the trademark. But UND isn't giving it to Spirit Lake because that would defeat the purpose of giving up the name. At some time in the future it may make sense to turn over the rights, but not for several years until a new name has a chance to be established. Otherwise people would totally ignore the new name and use the old name, buying goods with the old name and logo.

Clemson was supposed to play host to the ACC baseball tournament for 3 years in Myrtle Beach. That's kind of like Minnesota playing host to the WCHA Final Five. It's a pretty big deal. As always, the host team has a distinct advantage. The ACC moved it to Greensboro, North Carolina. South Carolina used to be a host site for March Madness on a regular basis. They haven't been chosen as a site since the sanctions went into place. North Carolina has been chosen 7 or 8 times during that time. That is a lot of money for the state that South Carolina no longer gets to collect. The sanctions are different but many of the results are similar. A lot of conferences follow the same policy, so if they schedule conference tournaments in advance, South Carolina can't hold it. And if the winner of that tournament gets an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament it isn't fair to South Carolina schools. But the sanctions are even important to sports you wouldn't think they would affect. FBS football shouldn't be affected since they are part of the BCS. Steve Spurrier, coach at South Carolina believes that it hurts his recruiting, http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6369123. Just being under some kind of sanctions can be used by other schools as a negative recruiting tool. Being under sanctions is a big deal.

The players and owners will be negotiating a new agreement this summer so I'm sure that will be on the table.

I missed the slash. That's what can happen when you skim through things.

Are you going to take that moderator's hat off or just keep putting it on over and over again?

Don't bother fixing my posts since you don't understand anything I say.

Yes it should. That got messed up initially in 2000, and even more messed up a year ago.

Again you paint with a very broad brush. Your only reason to be here is to stir the pot. You haven't done anything all day but try to blame people on this site for the problem. Try suggesting solutions. Or go back and play with your pals in Bville. A vote in June either way is not a final fix to the issue. A yes vote will result in another trip to the Supreme Court to question the Constitutionality of the law. A no vote will eliminate that step. Either way there will be a Constitutional amendment effort to complete, and probably to vote on in November. Then there is the Spirit Lake lawsuit. That may get dismissed in a few weeks. If it isn't it will go on the calendar for 2013. Discovery will take a year or longer. The entire case from start to finish could take 2 or more years. Then there are possible appeals. The goal is to limit the damage, not a final fix for the problem at this point.

The public may not fix the problem, they may make it worse. Which is just what you would like to have happen. A lot of people can have 20/20 vision when looking at the past. And as I said earlier, you and your friends seem to like to point fingers and assign blame. That isn't helping, as a matter of fact it gets in the way. If you want to be of assistance you can make some suggestions to solve the problem now (not 20 years ago). Otherwise maybe you should just go play with all the rest of your little pals.

You seem to have selective reading disorder. People weren't blaming NDSU. They were saying that some NDSU fans are going to vote yes because they know that if the law passes it will hurt UND. That isn't blaming NDSU, that is blaming the group of people trying to hurt UND. You know that it's going to happen, some members of Bville admit it freely. Those people might be enough to push the election over the top. All out of vengeance or spite. Is it any wonder that UND supporters would suggest something that might catch these people's attention and let them figure out how it could easily hurt them. I am continually amazed how quickly Bvillers jump in here to defend their school from any perceived slight. The reverse doesn't happen nearly as often on their site where shots are taken at UND on a regular basis, multiple times per day.

He may not have had as much interest with only 1 real good year in the books after not having a lot of acclaim before that.

You have no clue who has or has not done something to resolve this issue, or when they did something. You make broad accusations without any evidence. As watchmaker said, most of the posters on this site that supported Carlson's Folly have moved on to infest other places. I know that there are regular posters on this board that made strong efforts to stop this nonsense at several different stages. And none of the blame placing helps the situation as it currently sits. But it is a game that many of the posters from south of Grand Forks like to play. I swear that some of you live in the past and can't get past any real or perceived transgression, but have to wallow in it over and over and over again. Right now it is important that UND finds a usable solution to this issue. That starts with educating the public about the true and long term effects of the sanctions, and of the secondary effects. That might result in a NO vote in June. Spirit Lake getting its lawsuit thrown out would also help because some people may realize that there is no magic button that is going to change the minds of the NCAA. A yes vote would require the SBoHE take the issue back to the Supreme Court. And more education would need to be done before a vote is taken on a constitutional amendment.

Yes the NCAA policy on NA nicknames is clear. That doesn't mean that they can't change it at any time. Just to show that the NCAA doesn't have to follow an exact policy, Alabama also has Confederate flags flying over a Civil War memorial on the State Capital grounds. They are not subject to the same policy as South Carolina. To make things even less fair for South Carolina schools, both the ACC and the SEC have instituted a similar ban on hosting playoffs in South Carolina. So schools like Clemson and South Carolina can't even host conference playoff games. The point should be that NDSU supporters should not be fighting against UND on this issue because they could become involved at some time in the future for no good reason.

I don't think that anyone truly wishes that the NCAA would expand the sanctions. The point is that the group of people that plan to vote in favor of the state law just because they want to hurt UND needs to know that it could happen and it would be just as fair as voting in this law just to damage UND.

They are not punished for displaying the South Carolina flag on campus. South Carolina has a Confederate flag that was initially flown over the State Capital building. When the NCAA started to object to that the state moved the flag to a Soldiers Memorial dedicated to the veterans of the Confederate Army. The memorial is part of the State Capital grounds. No Confederate flags are flown on college campuses (at least officially) and South Carolina does not incorporate the Confederate flag in their state flag like Mississippi does. Edit: Flying the Confederate flag over the memorial has been put into state law and needs a super majority to be removed from state law.

Why does the NCAA punish all the schools in South Carolina when the transgression is the state flying a Confederate flag over the Confederate memorial on the state capital grounds? That flag has nothing to do with any school in the state. Expanding sanctions to all of North Dakota because of a statewide vote makes just as much sense.

Very few athletes that have been number 1 at their position are going to leave because they are worried about playing time the next year. It's possible that they could be concerned that something could happen to cause them to have less value next year, like an injury or something. If you are a free agent it can be a good idea to strike while you are at a high value. But I am pretty sure that Dell leaving because he expects to lose a lot of playing time is not the reason that he is going pro. And I would be shocked if he signed a contract with an ECHL team, it will be with an NHL team with expectations that he will play in the AHL.

The rumors are tha multiple NHL teams are looking at signing Dell. He isn't leaving school to sign an ECHL contract. One team that has been rumored to have some interest is Montreal, I haven't heard any other names.

It isn't impossible. But it isn't very likely either. The current sanctions will get plenty of results for the NCAA so they probably won't feel a need to add anything further.

The settlement doesn't spell out the sanctions. It says that UND will be put on the sanctions list if it continues to use the nickname and logo. They can change the sanctions at any time. And the settlement doesn't say that they can't expand the scope. North Dakota gave up the right to sue on the issue as long as the NCAA doesn't break the settlement terms. Changing the sanctions does not break the settlement terms. Try reading the settlement.

A lot of college students would leave school for a 75K check. They can always finish their degree. Dell has 3 years of school in already. He can probably take most of his course work online next year while he is playing. So he may get to finish his degree, get a big check now and collect pay checks all next year for playing a game. Contracts to leave school sometimes include money to finish their degree. Dell has no guarantee of teams being interested next year since he is a free agent. Sometimes you have to strike while the iron is hot. On the other hand, maybe he is one of those guys that don't like school. So he takes a big check now while it is being offered rather than waiting until next year when there is no guarantee that he will get any kind of offer.

The SBoHE took on the issue because they wanted Engelstad to finish the hockey arena with the least amount of immediate problems. I highly doubt that UND administration asked the SBoHE to take on the issue.

Engelstad made threats at the time he was building the hockey arena and Kupchella was looking at the name issue. He did not make future threats. Engelstad also knew that the NCAA was looking at the issue (they started reviewing in 1998 or before). He understood that the NCAA would probably do something at some point, and spent some time trying to find options for UND. But he died before the NCAA did anything and no one knows for sure how he would have reacted to the current situation. But he did not put any threats in the building lease or the other donations he made to the University of North Dakota.

NDSU fans whine now because they don't believe that NDSU gets fair funding. It will only get worse as Carlson gets more power over the Higher Education system.

He is probably leaving for a $75,000 plus signing bonus and whatever he earns in the minors, either the ECHL or the AHL.