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    2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)

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    59 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

    I have Trump’s wall to sell you if you think the Right does any different.  

    Speaking of building the Wall, how ironic that conservatives have little objection to taking massive amounts of people’s land nowadays.  And here I thought imminent domain was the antithesis of right-wing values.  Not anymore I suppose.  Hooray for big government control!!!!! Yeaa!!!!!

    Both liberal and conservative politicians  -> opposite ends of the same bull$hit stick.    

     

    Oh. Bad parenting too.  Never a good sign.  Nope.  No siree.  No bueno.    

    Since Mafia Man (grammar guy) is already asleep.  It is eminent domain, not imminent domain.  :)

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    4 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

    CA, which has outperformed Germany In terms of deaths/million, has the director of public health in LA county hinting a lockdown through July...

    how does that make sense?  Don’t let kids play baseball or go to art camp or learn to ride horses...

    Elderly and vulnerable stay home.  Sick or around someone who’s sick, stay home and/or get a test before interacting.  

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    Florida, like California, is lower than Germany in the deaths/million.  Florida is somewhat of a microcosm of the US. 

    A large percentage of the US deaths are in the Northeast... NY, NJ, PA and MA.

    56% of the deaths in Florida are in 3 counties, Miami/Dade, Broward and Palm Beach.  Gov DeSantis, has for the most part allowed the counties to do what they see is best for their community.  Florida began Phase I of reopening, with the exception of the above counties.   There is no need for a national policy or statewide policies when the threat is not widespread.

    When beaches opened in certain locations across the country, a segment of our society went nuts at how irresponsible it was.  The beaches here opened last week.  My family took advantage of it.  Fresh air, sunshine, exercise, etc.

     

     

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    1 hour ago, UNDlaw80 said:

     

    Riiiight.  In no parallel universe would Covid have killed that many people by now.      

    That said, it is crazy by the end of the month Covid will likely be the 4th deadliest event in US history behind 1918 pandemic, Civil War and WW2. 

    To put it in perspective, at our current pace (especially now that we're opening) we'll pass Civil War casualty numbers in just under 2 years.  Civil War lasted for 4 years.          

    An ongoing event that make your numbers pale in comparison.  Granted these figures are worldwide and not just USA.

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    2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)

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    20 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said:

    So a default on our national debt- that would be a complete economic disaster that would make the last 8 weeks seem like a walk in the park.   What is it with conservatism/ libertarianism and the inability to think anything through? 

    Here's what gets us out of this..... Trump loses badly in November and much like Bush before him hands the keys to a house on fire to Biden and a Democratic majority Senate.  Democrats then take on the hard work of cleaning up the mess the Republican Party and Trump left for them, while the same Republicans take whatever actions possible to make economic recovery/ containment of the virus as difficult as possible.   Despite this, the virus is eventually contained and the economy turns around.   After which, the debt and deficit will be addressed and some folks taxes will have to go up, which will be a small sacrifice in comparison to the workers you're asking to die of coronavirus for the sake of our economy and "patriotism".

    At some point, the economy will start doing so well that people will forget what a mess Republican governance looks like and elect another Republican president and Senate and we'll start the whole process over again.   Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

    Had to do it.... 

     

     

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    56 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

    Economic and political freedom have nothing to do with what’s being discussed. The point was about everyday living restrictions…..which is where wearing a mask falls into. 

    Romania can't compare whatsoever to the US for economic and political freedom, but day-to-day living is more relaxed (as it is for most of Europe).  People tend to police themselves.  We don’t do this, we have regulations and rules at every turn of the road.  

    You may want to reread your post because your “point” got muddled into your bashing of America for being over regulated. 
    But you want to “regulate” people to where masks?

    My question to all who are in favor of masking and sheltering.... when does it end?  What is the end game?  When are we all safe to stand less than 6’ apart?  

    I asked these questions early on early on of people who were supporting these actions and have never gotten a good answer other than “we have to flatten the curve”. Okay, that is quite arbitrary and doesn’t provide answers to my questions. 
     

    Any answers out there from the maskers?

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    41 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

    My wife is Romanian, we visit there regularly.  Returning home always illuminates how regulated American life is.   A permit is required for this, no parking here, a license is needed for that, no boobies on TV,  don't go over the limit, you need registration for that, city approval required for this, wanna start a business?...here's mounds of regulation for you, etc. etc.  etc,  And I haven't even started on privacy issues.    
     

    I have a coworker with an America is bad attitude. Here is a good place to do a comparison between countries. USA ranks pretty well in regards to regulation. 
    https://www.heritage.org/index/visualize?cnts=unitedstates|romania&src=country

    Once upon a time USA was top 5 in this index and had been trending upward over the past few years until the 2020 index. 

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    1 hour ago, UNDlaw80 said:

     

    Models are not predictions of the future, they merely describe a range of possibilities.  The 40,000 figure was calculated late-March.  What actually occurred was Scandinavia wasn’t hit as hard as other parts of Europe.  Sweden’s low death rate (and lack of a spike) is a reflection of this…...as is Finland and Norway’s absurdly low numbers.

    Your argument is akin to comparing North Dakota (if it didn’t lock-down) to Massachusetts.  Two completely different scenarios, with no common ground to make any meaningful assessment from.  

    What we do have for valid comparisons are Finland and Norway.  These are countries similar in proximity, geography, governments, demographics and even population density.   Again, Sweden has a death rate, per capita, 6X higher than its neighbors who locked-down.     

     

    Are these the same folks who “model” global warming?  Isn’t modeling what they are doing to predict the future? 

    The “experts” took the extreme in all of their modeling of the virus and scared everyone and look what we have.
    It almost looks dystopian going to the grocery store. Arrows on the floor showing you which direction to walk, lines of where to stand in line, people in masks avoiding each other. There seems to be more congestion at end of the aisles this way, than there was normally.

    Something just doesn’t seem right in telling well people to stay home. 

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    1 hour ago, UNDlaw80 said:

     

    Right, but Covid didn't hit Scandinavia as hard as expected. Comparing Sweden to the UK is quite disingenuous in terms of assessing the effectiveness of locking-down via raw numbers. 

    More suitable comparisons are neighboring Finland and Norway (both of whom locked down) which Sweden is sandwiched in-between.   

    Sweden's Covid death rate, per capita, is 6.5x higher than both Finland and Norway.  

    The point was that they were supposed to have 40,000 deaths by now, if they didn’t close everything down. They have around 2,700. The “experts” were way off.  I also, for weeks, kept hearing about flattening the curve or you would see a huge spike. Sweden didn’t seem to experience that. The UK, who did shut down, did spike, at least briefly. 

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    27 minutes ago, keikla said:

    I've often seen throughout this thread that those who are at risk should quarantine while everyone else should be able to carry on as is.  I'm just curious how people envision the logistics of that, since that could include a rather large portion of the US workforce.  Here's a couple of scenarios I'm interested in what people think about:

    1. Sally is 35yo with type 1 diabetes.  She and her dr feel that she is at risk, and she should quarantine.  She works for a company where the work could be done from home, but the employer wants people to actually be in the office for various reasons.  Does the employer have to let Sally work from home?  Does Sally have to disclose health issues (even if it's just a generic dr note) to her employer?  

    2. Bob is 53 (remember, our stats on the low mortality stop at age 49) and just beat cancer a few months ago.  He is a chef at a very busy restaurant.  Obviously his work cannot be done from home, but his dr feels that he is very at risk and should quarantine.  Is Bob's employer required to still pay him when he can't come in to work?  Does he only get paid if he has available sick leave/vacation days?  He's already out of annual FMLA coverage because of his cancer treatments.  Does Bob get furloughed/fired based on his health status?  Does any of this change if it were health issues that Bob could possibly mitigate (i.e obesity, certain patients with high blood pressure)?

    I'm not trying to be facetious; I'm genuinely interested in how people seeing the logistics play out.  If covid becomes an annual issue with the same deadly strain (as opposed to a weaker strain), these questions very well may need to be answered.

    I am in the construction industry which has been deemed essential. You are expected to work unless you are sick and/or have tested positive. Office people are working from home part of the time and in the office some if the time. People not working due to Covid are being compensated. 

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    1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

    Yes as is Texas.  Considering the homeless population in CA the performance is even more remarkable.  

    Along with Florida. Some of the beaches are opening back up. Escambia County officials meet on the 28th to discuss opening up Pensacola Beach and Perdido Key beaches.  Also, there is about 15 miles of public park beaches between Pensacola Beach and Navarre Beach for people to get out and enjoy the sun, wind, surf, water....  Plenty of room for a family to go out and enjoy and keep distance from others. 

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    13 hours ago, farce poobah said:

    Bruce Tellman sat behind the visitor bench (as I recall), and found ways to get into the head of visitors.   It wouldn't surprise me if that was who Brooks sought revenge upon.  

    (I've heard a similar story to yours.)

    That is the man.  I have a friend whose parents had seats right across the visitor tunnel from Bruce.  It was comical watching him throw comments the whole game at the opposing team/coach.  Brooks wanted his revenge.

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    I have a story that I heard a long time ago and I am not even sure if it is true or who told me.  A certain fan used to sit behind the visitor bench and liked to aggravate opposing coaches and Herb Brooks was one of his favorite targets.  In an effort to get some retribution Brooks had light syrup poured on the fans seat, so when he came in and sat down he didn’t see it. Brooks turned around and had a good laugh.  

    Hockey is the best sport.  The personalities, the action, the rivalries..    Sioux hockey is the greatest with the best fans in the world.     

     

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