sooperfan

While I have been reading posts on this thread for quite sometime, I have not felt the need to comment until now. You, --- are obviously delusional if you feel that anybody playing hockey at RR is receiving "excellent coaching" especially from Mark Bry. If you were to poll players (past, present and parents as well) you would find that most have zero respect for any of them and agree that those men could take the best players in the state and destroy them by the end of the season. The team that won state last year did so not because of them but in spite of them and I have heard the words ''egotistical maniac" used to refer to Mark Bry who is probably still pissed he never went anywhere in hockey.

Jake Vigen is still in the tryout process for Portage and will hopefully be playing for them this coming year, their pre-season exhibition games start tomorrow and go thru 9/12. Jordan cannot play for a month because of his shoulder injury. Good Luck to them both.

Just one clarification, Jake Marto has never played in the elite league or done any other extra hockey. Also although it is very true he is a great athlete in GF it will be very interesting to see how he holds up against some real competion. From what I have been hearing about the Showcase with the exception of turning it on a couple of times he was hardly noticeable, and I am sorry but I have to agree with J Loos comparing him to the Moorhead and Warroad boys I just think they are far better hockey players and from what i understand that was evident when Mn and Nd met for a pre showcase game in Buffalo. I also have heard that although Mn expressed early interest in Marto, after model camp I think that interest faded and I don't belive they even wound up making any kind of solid offer.

Sounds like you are probably the horrible one and pretty gutless i might add, that you claim to have played with him for a long time and yet don't identify yourself and joined this forum just to rip on the kid. Either that or you are just plain jealous. I can assure you there has been plenty of dumb plays made by several Red River players including Hill, Galbreath, and I'm sure yourself. I'm not saying that I agree with Loos saying he is the best D in the state but I would say he ranks right up there. I guess the teams that have scouted him know far less about hockey than you do though. I have watched Jake play many times and think he does a great job, I don't know him real well but I have friends who do and they say he is a great kid, we all wish him well.

I would have to disagree with your comments about Vigen, if anything I would say he doesn't get enough credit, comments I have heard from people is that he is a steady stay at home defenseman who gets the job done, I don't think there can be any arguement that he needs to work on his speed but to say he is overrated I think is a bit harsh,from what I have heard about the kid, he generated alot of interest from scouts while playing in the select program and the elite league and I think he was the only player from ND drafted in the USHL during the futures draft last fall. It will be interesting to see if he makes the team that drafted him. To your list of overrated players I would have to put Marto at #1.

Actually, GPR is RR's last game of the season, they play 2/12/05 at Purpur.

I agree with you about Vigen, he plays a real solid game, but does need to work on his speed and that hit was beautiful! It will be interesting to see how he does in juniors, does anybody know if he will go yet this year or will it be for next season? I would also agree with your comment about Marto.

You have got to be kidding me!! All this......it was Shanley for GOD'S sake, a good bantam team could kick their ass. I also think it is time to add Weisgarber to the "Not GOD" list with Marto.

The RR/Central game is for sure at Purpur arena on thursday. Go Roughriders!!

I would agree with Loos about adding Vigen to the defenseman list, he is great at getting nice low shots on net from the blue line, keeping the puck in the opponents end and getting passes out to the forwards. As far as who is the best player in the state Imo I would have to say no one player has been totally dominate, Weisgarber and Willert are definitely good players but I didn't feel either one of them was a huge factor in their games against RR. The Schaefer/Mihulka line has come up big for RR in several games and as far as who is the best team in the state I would have to say that definitely is yet to be determined, playoffs should be very interesting........

Haven't visited the sight for awhile but am glad to see some hs discussions going on. Very happy to hear someone has finally said out loud that Marto is not god, nor is he the whole central hockey team, not saying the kid isn't good for nd but d1, come on! Watch moorhead and warroad play and you will see talent that belongs d1. In response to comments about rr and their defenseman, i do believe they have the only player in the state of nd drafted in the ushl and he is a defenseman. I do agree that rr needs to be more disciplined but they do have some good players on that team, i believe everybody has played each other once and now it is time for round 2, it will be very interesting to see the results. also i personally like hearing jloos' comments, and i think with the exception of moorhead he provides a pretty unbiased opinion.

does anybody know if there is a forum available where people are talking about nd high school hockey?

when i asked about game schedules and admission prices to this weekends games i was told there is no charge for the elite 2 games

yes, i have been to some of the games.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! FOR AS MUCH TALENT AS THEY SUPPOSEDLY HAVE IN FORWARDS I THINK THE EFFORT IS PATHETIC. I THINK THEY ARE SEEING WAY MORE EFFORT FROM THE DAKOTA BOYS (FORWARD AND DEFENSE) THAN FROM THE MINNESOTA BOYS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES FROM MOORHEAD!

THEY WILL BE SHORT A LOT OF PLAYERS IN MADISON BUT I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO GET SOME ADD ONS. I HOPE THEY CAN START WINNING SOME GAMES. IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD TEAM AT FIRST BUT WITH INJURIES AND ONE OF THE GUYS BEING SICK AND ONE QUITTING THEY SEEM TO BE STRUGGLING. PLUS I THINK THEY NEED SOME OF THEIR FORWARDS TO STEP IT UP A LITTLE.

I HEAR DEREK KUNTZ FROM GF HAD A GREAT WEEKEND, SCORING 3 GOALS INCLUDING 2 IN ONE GAME.

sorry i pissed dmt off by creating another thread on this subject. is there anywhere to go to discuss hs hockey? does anybody have a resonse to my question on the other thread about great plains this past weekend?

HAS ANYBODY HEARD HOW THE GREAT PLAINS TEAM LOOKED THIS PAST WEEKEND IN BLOOMINGTON

the great plains elite roster is not accurate. there have been a couple of changes oakland and halstenson are definitely not on, vigen was put on in halstenson's spot and there is no longer an alternate on the team. they supposedly are going to update the roster soon

i have been following your conversations about vigen and saw the recent comment about the great plains team. i have a friend whose son is on the team and vigen replaced halstenson on the team. the website has just not been updated.