Kermit's Luck
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1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:
I get the same literature as you do but thanks.
You said earlier "The flu spreads to vulnerable populations. Where's the same concern?"
I summarized the high level of concern that the medical community has towards the flu with respect to vulnerable populations.
Did you know there already was a high level of concern for flu infection in vulnerable populations? Had you read the literature you just mentioned? I'm getting confused again.
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12 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
That all makes sense so we shut down society as we know it over every sniffle, cough and fever moving forward? That's where this is heading. The flu spreads to vulnerable populations. Where's the same concern?
The CDC acknowledges risk factors for complications from the flu (over 65, pre-existing complications such as cancer, lung disease, etc) and strongly recommends being vaccinated against the flu. A very large percentage of adults that have a regular relationship with a doctor and/or preventative health receive the flu vaccine and this suppresses the fatality numbers. Thankfully.
There is a high level of concern surrounding the flu and its impact on vulnerable populations. With the vaccine and knowledge that has been gained over centuries of treating the flu, our medical community is able to mitigate the risks as best they can. The hope is that they learn how to deal with the brand new disease that just emerged three months or so ago and use their expertise to provide the same level of protection against covid-19 as against the flu.
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1 minute ago, Cratter said:
You told me the same amount of people will get it regardless.
You told me cancelling March Madness will just slow down the rate.
So grandma's chances remain equal.
Grandma has a much better chance if she gets this next December with a hospital that isn't over-capacity. Or needing to be admitted to an ICU that ran out of beds ten days ago.
And hopefully there's a vaccine involved within 12-18 months - that's when slowing down the rate of infection will really pay off.
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12 minutes ago, Cratter said:
You stop the spread of the coronavirus, the same way you stop the spread of the flu.
Coronavirus is less deadly than the Flu for anyone under 40.
Agreed that hand washing/hygiene etc are critical in preventing the spread of both flu and covid-19.
RE: covid-19 being less deadly than influenza - do you think widespread flu vaccination in the USA helps with the low fatality rate for those under 40? Let's also remember covid-19 has been around for about 3 months and we have no idea how this thing will look by the time it all shakes out.
Believe me - I 100% hope this thing settles down once things warm up and the guys in the lab coats have some time to figure out what to do next from a treatment/prevention standpoint. I also think it's worth giving up March Madness to try and give grandma and grandpa a better chance to see their grandkid's next birthday.
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2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
You tell me exactly what you're saying.
"I think the flu is........"
"I think the corona is........"
I'm not sure what's happening here, but I'll play along.
I would much rather overreact and take all reasonable measures to slow this down than assume it's just "the flu" (science says it's NOT by the way).
My preference would be to take relatively extreme measures (cancel large gatherings, close schools, etc.) in order to slow down the spread of the virus causing COVID-19.
This would help to flatten the curve (see graphic in original post) and give our medical community the best chance to successfully treat those infected with the new disease.
The opposite of my preference would be to assume it's just "the flu".
Many people (yourself on pages 4/5 of this thread, our President, etc) have compared this new disease to the flu and that we should all calm down and just prepare for something very similar to flu season. Don't take drastic mitigation steps, don't prevent people from gathering, keep the economy HOT, etc.
The new disease has an unknown trajectory, no established treatment protocol, and no vaccine. Fatality rate likely 10x to 30x of influenza. 1 per 1000 compared to 10-30 per 1000 as data is compiled by the CDC.
I would much rather overreact and take all reasonable measures to slow this down than assume it's just "the flu" (science says it's NOT by the way).
WASH YOUR HANDS, AND GO SIOUX!!!
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1 minute ago, Cratter said:
That's a very odd graph.
Or is it likely fake?
Because "without protective measures" this "pandemic" ends before it would otherwise "with protective measures."
The graph is illustrating that if we take protective measures (social distancing, not gathering in large groups, etc) that the spread of the virus will occur over a longer period of time than if we all go to sporting events, political rallies, and other large group gatherings. This is preferable as the longer it takes for the virus to spread around the population, the more likely we'll be able to handle it with our current capability to treat a large number of patients.
We're past the containment phase; now we mitigate the best we can and hope like heck the spread of the virus slows (in the Northern Hemisphere at least) during the warmer months and we can get a vaccine for this sucker. Wash your hands, Sioux fans!
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7 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Assume it's just "the flu".......that's where I stopped reading.
Science at this stage states it's not the flu. You get half credit there.
Please read this sentence again and tell me what you think I'm saying.
I would much rather overreact and take all reasonable measures to slow this down than assume it's just "the flu" (science says it's NOT by the way).
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12 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
No big deal? Never said that. Apocalyptic.....its not.
No I didn't......there is still travel protocols in place even though I'll disagree with the MSNBC/CNN lemmings.
Chinese New Year was 2/12. If you left this country to go celebrate there you don't need to be brought back in until Maddow says you can. She's got a better gripe on this than the surgeon general right???
(there you go)
Right or wrong that's the narrative being floated around the UND student population.
Not apocalyptic? I think hindsight will define that better than where we're at now. Reports out of Italy don't sound great.
The rest of your post...I'm not even sure what narrative you're referring to in your last sentence. Presumably left-wing, media-driven spin to impact election results? It's tough to tell. Maddow's gripe is likely with the GOP but I bet she's listening to scientists and acting accordingly during this situation.
I would much rather overreact and take all reasonable measures to slow this down than assume it's just "the flu" (science says it's NOT by the way). The reason these events are cancelled is because we don't know the true number of cases out there, and to prevent the spread at this early stage is the best chance of keeping this outbreak manageable. See below graphic for a good illustration - we already blew it by not having test kits/testing protocol in place ASAP after the virus started being discovered outside of China. Our best bet now to keep things under control and not too impactful on our daily life is to lock it down and listen to the CDC/WHO.
Let's hope we don't get to the point where we're taking someone's grandparent off a ventilator so that someone with a higher likelihood of recovery can have it. The people of this country on both sides of the aisle aren't ready for that kind of reality - I know I'm sure not.
Excellent information here: flatten the curve
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1 hour ago, Old Fella said:
If Duluth sweeps Denver will drop in pairwise to the 2nd tier. In this situation Sioux could be sent to Loveland,
Agreed - not like I'm going to root for those metro/private school/Eurotrash Pioneers or anything, but it would seem like the best Pairwise scenario is for UND to hold on to the #1 overall (maximum protection in any potential bracket iterations) and have DU stay on the 1-seed line to avoid ending up in their regional. Wooster with BC as the 2 sounds like something the Sioux would get "rewarded" with, but hopefully it's more like Allentown/PSU.
disclaimer: single-elimination postseason hockey is highly dependent on streaky snipers, goaltenders, and puck luck. Above discussion is meant to pass time in late January and will not have any bearing on the eventual results in the NCAA tournament.
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Ok fine. One shot of Windsor and they’re yours.
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Have two extra in 302. Will sell for a beer and a shot each. Thank you.
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That makes sense, thanks for clearing that up. Getting the login credentials out of my non-tech savvy parents was such a challenge that when we finally logged in and couldn't watch, I was devastated. Guess it's time to get the credit card out for NCHC.tv...
Thanks again.
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Anyone have any tips to use MidcoSN online? My folks are visiting and we tried to use the TV Everywhere-->MidcoSN stream, and we got to watch some high school football. The hockey showed on the schedule, but couldn't find a way to stream it.
Any advice?? We listened on the radio, but were hoping to watch tonight. I've been on the fence about NCHC.tv this year but maybe I'll just drop in. Thanks for any help and go Sioux/Hawks!
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That picture against the Gophs looks like it was taken right by the TV well that our tickets were just above. Great shot!
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In a long career of lurking on sports message boards, this current discussion might actually be one of the most ridiculous I've had the pleasure of reading. Gripe all you want about the lack of scoring on the current squad, but to waste people's time saying we don't have an elite program is the definition of trolling. Or a colossal waste of time for all involved, tough to say.
I'm a UND hockey fan and roughly 58% Irish (100% on St Paddy's Day), and this guy makes me shake my head. I'm guessing he has similar struggles with the difference between weather and climate?
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1 minute ago, siouxfan512 said:
Yeah, I couldn't remember, but Starman messaged me back and said they are off this weekend. Will be back on CBS for the Frozen Faceoff.
Sweet thanks. Pony up for playoffs NCHC.tv or listen to Tim on the radio sound like the options...
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Any intel on TV for this series? NCHC.tv only or any chance of CBS or one of the Fox College Sports channels picking it up?
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1 hour ago, Cratter said:
Went to Scheels yesterday, picked me up some nice Fighting Sioux gear.
What'd they have for sale - Dakota Legacy? Any pics or anything?
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3 hours ago, cberkas said:
The school needs to come up with logo that people want to buy, need to make back all that money that was spent on the logo design.
Dakota Legacy Collection!
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10 minutes ago, ringneck28 said:
Thanks, I get it that it is tough for some to follow our inside jokes. In all seriousness, don't think that we are all anti women sports on here. We all love UND and want what is best for UND. I don't know if you a resident of ND, but I am and I ask that my tax dollars be spent wisely. In the case of women's hockey, that wasn't being done. Sorry for being so blunt, but I call a spade a spade. If the Olympians think this is a great way to grow the game, then I think USA hockey needs to pay for some of the continual loses.
No question there was fat to be trimmed in the WH budget. I understand wanting to treat them equitably to MH, but at a certain level of expenditure you’ve got to pump the brakes and realize that the women aren’t playing in front of a packed house like the men. Was just down in the guts of the Ralph, and the ladies were living pretty large for a minimally revenue producing college program.
That said, I think there’d be a way to maintain a women’s program at the school with the best and most storied hockey tradition in all of college hockey. The REA is a heckuva facility and it’d be great if they could support a program for aspiring female hockey players – doesn’t have to be a jetsetting Olympic feeder program, just give kids a chance to play some puck before they move on with their lives after graduation and get a professional career that isn’t their collegiate sport. You know, like 99% of every athlete (m/f) at UND outside of MH over the last two decades.
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20 minutes ago, tnt said:
Yeah, like your argument that UND should have women's hockey regardless of it being a black hole is a sound argument on it's own.
Refer to my previous comment regarding your reading comprehension. It's also possible you didn't read past the first paragraph in my post, which would also explain it and potentially be an indicator that you got a little more value from your theoretical UND education.
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25 minutes ago, tnt said:
Oh, I think you have a pretense of having virtuous character, but in reality it is about what's good for you at the time.
It was actually a way of saying "I understand where you're coming from, and may even have thought that way myself at one point" and then presenting my opinion that is obviously different than the majority of people in this thread. That said, my character is virtuous af, no pretenses about it.
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1 hour ago, ringneck28 said:
Per Rule 7 of @MafiaMan handbook, there will be no circle jerks unless there is a Friday win by the Men's Hockey team and they must include a mimosa. This must happen on the Saturday morning following the Friday win. Article 3 of this rule is that this event can't happen at the Hoggsbreath, per his trying to get a clarification of this rule and the waitress forth giving a slap of the his face. (Poor Mafiaman just wanted a clarification and left with a pack of ice on his face) So with this being said, guess we will have to wait until sometime in Oct. to get the Mimosa and talk further of this subject.
This was funny, if maybe a little concerning. Will be wary of anyone drinking mimosas at all future UND hockey games I attend...
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1 hour ago, MafiaMan said:
It sure didn't take long for you to add to the piling on and name calling, did it?
I hate to break the news to you, but college hockey still IS available to young women. It's just not available at the University of North Dakota.
It's an idiom, not piling on or name calling. And your second sentence is what's known as a "straw man argument". Whew, I've lurked on this forum for a decade and should have known what I was in for if I decided to chirp up.
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Morning Professor!
I don't really have time to engage in the circular debates and reading comprehension exercises today, so in the immortal words of crusty golfers everywhere "Keep your mouth off my ball!"
And also, of course, and always: WASH YOUR HANDS, AND GO SIOUX!!! I'd like to hope it doesn't get any worse than playing the games in front of empty rinks, but I'll let the experts in epidemiology and emergency management make those decisions.