yzerman19
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1 minute ago, UNDlaw80 said:
...but until that time, in my opinion, politicians have the duty to pave the way for justice, or at least not make the situation worse. This is certainly not occurring at the highest level right now.
-100k coronavirus dead; 1 in 4 Americans unemployed; the economy in the toilet; race riots in the streets; cities on fire.......and Trump hiding in a bunker after-which he does a photo op with a bible in the air.
Is America Great Again yet? Is this seriously the America you guys want?
Or is everything fine and dandy as long as the 'slowflakes' are owned.
It almost feels orchestrated how things were just kinda coasting along, then bang, bang the whole underbelly exposed.
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23 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:
It's my opinion that true racial justice won't come from any politician (left or right). It's too ingrained.
However change WILL occur when America's demographics shift. Like it or not, it's gonna happen. A lot in white America are scared $hitless of this eventuality because the notion of what 'traditional cultural America' is will be flipped upside down. White privilege will cease to exist.
I don’t know if white America is scared, but I do agree that the death of the boomer generation will advance equality.
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I’d like to know what can end the lawless behavior (looting, arson, murder). Is there an ask that can be addressed in someway? Murderous cop is in jail.
systemic inequality in economic outcome, opportunity, justice system...those aren’t things that change over night. They were there under Obama too.
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Don’t people realize that it’s all about a certain element (elites for lack of a better term) controlling the mob, just by different methods? It’s Machiavellian: Be feared or be loved. Suppress the uprising by force and system or placate those likely to uprise. It’s all so disingenuous, it’s all meant for the very wealthy and powerful to stay that way.
The problem that will not go away is that upward mobility in society has been crushed. Without a common achievable goal, society falls apart. Affordable home ownership and decent jobs. That is what works. Home ownership creates neighborhoods, schools, and safe communities. It also builds some wealth.
The underlying issue is that people lack hope and a means to a better life. Throw in your face racism and tragedy into the mix, with people with time on their hands...it’s a match tossed into kerosene.
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It’s not right wing or left wing, it comes together on the circle. They are extremists with a lot of frustration and hate. Look, I’m disgusted by the death of Floyd. It was wrong. The cop is in jail. To use it to set off the powder keg..I guess it was just waiting for a spark. It boils down to disenfranchised people. Set foot on my $1.4M piece of property with Ill intent...well, I guess I can show some of these thugs some NODaK roots...white tail running at 200 yards...hit 3 mallards in 30 seconds...
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36 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
Depends where you live. Western ND. Most HS grads worse OJT in the oil field can start about 80-90k/year. Housing about 280k to 300k.
I get that, why I said major urban centers.
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12 minutes ago, Goon said:
I thought that was an Onion headline at first
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The bottom line game changer that has destroyed the promise of upward mobility (which was the fine thread that held us together) boils down to two very simple things:
1. Higher Education Costs
2. Housing Costs
Both of those key components to society have become out of reach for the majority of people in urban areas.
In the major urban centers a basic house that you would be comfortable with the schools and feel mostly safe will run you at minimum $500k. That’s $100k down payment. If you can save $500/mo it will take you 200 months to save for a down payment. 17 years...at $1000/Mo you get to 8 years. Meanwhile the price keeps going up, so if real estate outpaces your savings (likely) you are chasing even longer. Throw in some joblessness where you are burning down wealth instead of accumulating, the carrot stays out of reach.
In CA it’s just gross. The cost of a middle class life is about $250k/year.
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26 minutes ago, keikla said:
The issues at hand are totally different, but it essentially comes down to one thing: people being unemployed because of circumstances outside of their control.
Exactly. This country has been a powder keg for awhile. Covid economic shutdown put us past the tipping point. All that’s needed was a spark.
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Shaming for anything disgusts me. Mob mentality. Gutless. Extremely easy behind a computer keyboard too...
it amazes me how many people’s mindsets have never left junior high. The social media movement simply encouraged that.
wish the iPhone had never been invented...
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Just read 81% of Canada’s deaths have been nursing home residents
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Well done
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1 minute ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
The hilarious thing about "partisanship" is that people don't even ask anymore, or even require some evidence of your disposition. You question aspects of the COVID response and people will just ASSUME (to a degree beyond certainty) that you are a right-wing MAGAmaniac. It blows my mind that so many people have lost all sense of reason and the capacity for critical thought.
Totally. It’s The immediate discounting of the message based on a bias against the messenger.
Left: nothing you say matters because you are a heartless bigot that doesn’t share my values! Which are the correct values! You only think about yourself!Right: nothing you say matters because you are a mindless crybaby that doesn’t share my values! Which are the correct values! Stop worrying about everybody else and worry about yourself!
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I’m just tired. 80+...give me a bottle of good scotch and a triple dose of ketamine. Honsestly. I don’t wish Ill upon anyone, but what would you do? Hold on for one more Christmas? Stop the world for one. Ire trip to Walmart or the fair?
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Shame is an equal sword...I cast shame on everyone that donates less than $5k/ year to charity. I cast shame on people who haven’t saved a million bucks. Lots of ways to cast shame
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same thing with guns. I have them, I hunt with them, I don’t have a round chambered until I’m ready for business. Yet they are dangerous.
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47 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
guns come with background checks, cars come with speed limits and seat belts, alcohol comes with limits you can’t drive drunk and you can’t be an idiot in public, tobacco well there’s an age limit, there’s such thing as burn bans when it’s windy, there’s lifeguards at pools, and you there’s times you don’t want to swim in the ocean when the sharks are in right?
Would you like to see seatbelts removed from vehicles? How about no speed limits on the road? Get rid of the age limit on tobacco or let Marlboro start marketing to kids again? Lessened dui penalties?
Reasonable standards are fine, same with covid. Driving drunk implies you’ve been drinking. I am known to have two drinks and drive home, with my family in the car. I’ve been known to have more than that with no driving involved. I dont pound a half rack and drive. Same should apply to Covid. I have no reason to believe I am impaired, therefore I will go about my business.
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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:
Would you consider your right to be out without a mask a civil liberty? Your right to socialize in a bar? How about your right to operate a business with a high number of employees in unsafe conditions? Even if all of the above are liberties, considering the situation shouldn’t we just do the right thing? Those patriots you mention gave up their liberties so we could have them. Why do we have the me first attitude now?
We have 1500 people per day dying from covid right now in our country and many are a little concerned of what this number will look like a month from now. How many covid deaths per day is suitable before we start scaling back again?
We will never agree, because I don’t believe it is the responsibility of the government nor the citizens to do everything in our power to protect people at all costs. If I believed that, I would ban guns, ban cars, ban alcohol, ban tobacco, ban fire, ban knives, ban swimming pools, ban bears, ban sharks.
start the sunscreen police next. Don’t eat meat. Etc.
its a cruel world and some people lose and some people die.
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7 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:
Living in Cass county makes me pause a little.
Why?
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43 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
There’s plenty that could be done to protect them, but some choose to blatantly disregard these safeguards as their civil liberties are more important.
Many a Patriot has sacrificed their life for liberty. Some are in history books, some in distant fields and deserts and on beaches. Some are names on walls or embodied in triangular folded flags on mantels and in dens.
With their sacrifice in mind, I believe that civil liberties and economic freedom is more important than any individual’s illness or death.-
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25 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
But aren't they also sabotaging themselves when they come up for re-election if they have driven the economy into the ground? Cutting off the noses to spite the face so to speak? On top of that, aren't most of them pointing at the White House guidelines for re-opening and having to meet certani standards. That's where that line of thinking starts to get blurry with me.
I think if the entire economy is in shambles, the only thing you can hang your hat on is the health outcomes. Even if we do open up tomorrow, the damage is done. It would give people hope, but the economy is wrecked for a couple years.
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15 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
So your observation is that around 50 governors are independentally acting with varying levels of irrationality based on indivdiual tragic events? The actual number might vary by a few because I suppose it depends on what someone considers as reasonable guidelines given the circumstances.
Not saying I don't diasagree with various decisions mades, I'm frankly only concerned about one state, but I'm just curious what people think the actual motivations and end games are.
I believe that almost all believe life is superordinate to the economy and they don’t want to be wrong and have 10% of their citizens die. It’s foolish to think that way, but they are weighing worst case. Some of the Dems might get added pleasure by tanking Trump in the process. They might also believe that the economy is already tanked, so why worry about a lost cause.
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2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
Given that comment, what do you think the motivation for someone like Walz has is to make the decisions he is, knowing that it will continue to hurt the economy of his state? I mean, he clearly isn't doing it to make himself more popular/re-electable in regards to that.
We’ve seen the individually tragic stories dominate certain types of thinking. Think about drunk driving. The odds of causing a wreck that kills people doesn’t go up noticeably until you are over 0.15 BAC, yet our law is at 0.08. Individually tragic events garner sympathy and ignore rational thought.
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No rational person let’s the ship sink when you can seal 2% of the crew behind the hatch and stay seaworthy.
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2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)
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LA city council passed a measure to dramatically cut the LAPD budget.
The voices of the righteous are being conflated with the agendas of extremists. Protests against systemic racism and police violence which I consider a righteous voice in response to the triad of “Karen” in Central Park, Aubrey in GA, and Floyd in Mpls, are now being used as the platform to push the anti police, anti prison, anti ICE, pro socialism extremist agenda. Making everyone’s lives worse does not make marginalized community member’s lives better.
We have to discern that which must be heard from the temper tantrums. The redistribute wealth, open borders crowd has no legitimacy in piling onto the protests of police brutality and systemic racism. Being pro-borders does not make you a racist. Being pro-capitalism does not make you a racist. It’s more nuanced. Pro borders but only for immigrants from “sh!thole” countries is bad, pro capitalism via exploitation is bad. Pro borders regardless if immigrants from Norway or Nigeria is about sovereignty. Pro capitalism that builds jobs and communities and wealth is about opportunity.