MissSioux85
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6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
I bolded a key word.
If he really did as alleged, he would still have been a minor and in violation. How did he not end back up in juvenile court?
I have a feeling we know what we're being told and not everything there is to know.
Maybe, maybe not. As it stands, Miller has yet to refute that claim.
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So called 'Cancel Culture' is NOT the problem here. The problem still lies with Miller and to a certain extent, his parents. He was taken to court, reprimanded by the magistrate, ordered to community service, and STILL allegedly continued his bullying behavior. Society, political correctness, 'bad' Christians, etc. is not the reason why he's in this predicament. He is where he is because he failed to learn a very important lesson.
Miller's life hasn't been completely destroyed and he can still have a hockey career, but he has to show genuine change. No more forced apologies or PR stunts.
Also, with its statement the other day, I don't know how UND would justify potentially following the Coyotes' lead. UND stated it knew the story and was adamant that it is the best place to 'rehabilitate' him.-
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2 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
I love the "because Jasper has a black brother" narrative that obviously makes him a race virtuoso and the expert on race relations. Classic.
Didn't he recently try to dox the UND soccer coach through a fake twitter account, calling for him to be fired because his girlfriend wasn't playing enough or something?
I don't think this is what people are saying. It's more about what kind of environment it creates in the locker room when you have players on opposite ends of the spectrum. Weatherby is a strong advocate against the type of behavior Miller exhibited. How might they feel having each other as a teammate and could it cause issues or a divide within the team if guys start taking 'sides' (as the fan base has)?
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Radio show featuring Aaron Portzline from The Athletic:
https://post.futurimedia.com/ckstam/playlist/10/listen-27746.html?cb=1603893336.291788
Quick Summary:-Says lack of remorse is concerning and that Miller didn't take it seriously
-Says a lot of NHL teams didn't like their interviews with him or the way he reported himself
-Teams said Miller's recounting of the bullying left them flat; that it wasn't truly what occurred
-Says at least 10 NHL teams removed Miller from their lists after their draft interviews with him
-Says Miller lied to school administrators; they looked at video surveillance to learn the real story
-Says Miller apparently laughed upon receiving his suspension from school
-Says Miller's parents are on the down-low
-Says the victim's mother thought about sending letters to all the NHL teams, but chose not to because she didn't think he would be drafted due to the situation
-Says Arizona Coyotes initially removed Miller from their draft list (June 2020)
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16 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
Your exact quote was "I don't understand..." and now you're saying the issue is not on your end? Seriously.
I was referring to your comment of: "Only a cold hearted SOB or a blatant hypocrite would take a hard line," which seems to imply that those of us who aren't jumping to absolve Miller of his sins are problematic. I'm saying that is not the case. Miller's actions, lack of real consequences, and his failure to take personal accountability is the problem.
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7 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
Sports has a unique and powerful capacity for change, and redemption. There is a good story for every bad. A good outcome for every poor.
Maybe you should binge watch Real Sports on HBO...they do a great job of humanizing a lot of these issues.
Forgiveness and opportunity are hallmarks of both Christianity and Americana. Only a cold hearted SOB or a blatant hypocrite would take a hard line.
The issue is NOT on my end, but thanks for the mansplain. Miller's bullying went on for several years, and reportedly as recently as two years ago. The kid has already had opportunity to change. Every team and coach along the way has held his hand. When does he actually have to face some REAL consequences on his own? I'm not saying he should have his entire life destroyed, but there needs to be some accountability on his end that's not court-ordered or contrived.
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On a radio show, Darren Dreger said he believes UND and the Coyotes are working together to make Miller part of an anti-bullying campaign, but haven't yet worked out all the details.
IF true, Miller still doesn't have to face the full consequences of his actions. UND and the Coyotes are handling it for him. Also, a move of this sort is incredibly transparent. It will end up being performative just like the court-ordered mandates. He'll do what he has to do for appearances but won't actually change and learn, as we have already seen.
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14 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
So obviously the Coyotes organization is racist for drafting him?
Hypocritical.
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44 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
So based on this article he should be banned to the KHL for the rest of his hockey life?
Not at all. It points out major discrepancies of the NHL's supposed stand against racism and racist behaviors.
It also points out, like others have already said, that Miller hasn't really shown that he's EARNED a second chance. All teams involved seemed to have simply shrugged it off believing a COURT-ORDERED apology was sufficient. -
CBS Sports article
https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/coyotes-drafting-mitchell-miller-is-latest-proof-that-nhls-anti-racism-initiatives-are-ringing-hollow/
QuoteBut anyone using age as a defense here also has to recognize that actions of the immature still often carry consequences. Miller hasn't seemed to suffer too many consequences as a result of his heinous transgressions. A terrible display of character and judgement as a kid shouldn't necessarily follow a person for the rest of their life, but in certain circumstances a person has to dig their way out on their own without the way being paved for them. He's still earned a scholarship to the University of North Dakota and was drafted about one round later than initially projected.
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43 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Not the best statement, IMO. First off, "unfortunate incident" implies it was a one-time thing and it certainly does not sound like that was the case. Second, UND stating that it feels it is the best environment to help him learn and grow essentially places the onus of his future actions/behavior directly on UND and UND hockey from now until eternity. A bold move. Especially when you consider the multiple issues of racism/racist behavior by UND students and athletes over the years.
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On 7/18/2020 at 3:01 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said:
anyone wondering if those beefy roof trusses on Gershman's new building are meant for a rooftop deck? they are much beefier than the roof they took down.
I attended an outdoor event with Hal recently and he talked a bit about the restaurant. He said he is raising the roof by three feet. No mention of outdoor seating. He also said the current owner of Ground Round (Matt W.) will serve as General Manager and that right now he doesn't plan to open until there is a COVID vaccine.
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Schlossman says Massimo Rizzo.
I don't have a GF Herald subscription so I'm not sure why he's re-opening his recruitment.
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I too was hoping for a more helpful update. Our group of five has tickets, but none of us has booked flights (all traveling from different cities). I know they REALLY want this game to happen (as do the fans), but to sit back for another month allowing fans to continue booking flights, hotels, etc. seems a little disingenuous. I know of fans who are booked on private flights that are currently non-refundable. How many others may wind up losing money the longer this carries on?
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The previous message from REA said there would be updates on June 1 AND June 15, but I didn't see anything.
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Long Island University has announced it will be adding men's hockey
https://www.liuathletics.com/news/2020/4/30/liu-announces-addition-of-mens-ice-hockey.aspx
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For the past month, I have debated whether or not to purchase plane tickets while prices are WAY down for some airlines/itineraries, but don't want to wind up stuck with non-refundable tickets if the game ends up being played WITHOUT fans. Anyone else in the same boat?
If the game is to be played without fans, I hope UND announces sooner than later as a lot of time and money goes into the planning of these trips. Ours is a group of six and we would all be traveling from different states. None of us has booked flights yet.
Having said that, I'd guess UND/The Ralph would prefer to wait until the last possible moment to make this decision as they would stand to lose quite a bit of revenue, etc.
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Apparently Ed & Dayn Belfour have launched a liquor brand (Belfour Spirits) and will be hosting whiskey tastings/meet & greets in Fargo and Grand Forks this week...
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Belfour still battling issues with alcohol
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It appears Allegiant has already added a second nonstop flight out of GF.
Upset Boosters???
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I actually stopped visiting Sioux Sports regularly a few years ago as it has turned into a cesspool of divisive non-sports related rhetoric. And the amount of racism/bigotry and misogyny is astounding. I know several others who also rarely visit the board for the same reason. It's a shame what's it's turned into.