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Where was the journalistic reporting in this article that one or all those entities was/is "robbing" dollars from the FB program?

Fridays: Down UNDer.....then eat at Shangri-La....then finish evening at Sensations.

......and why do you have hockey tickets? I'm being serious. Never met you but have never heard a season hockey ticket holder in 20 years rag on the program like you.

With friends like that who needs enemies................................................

So where is this big pot money from the FB endowment that you speak of and how is it being used to benefit the FB program? Obviously with all the complaining about what the FB program doesn't have those dollars aren't being reinvested in the FB program. Is it helping the BB programs?

Can definitely tell there are a few huge Bernie Sanders supporters from this thread!

Your take is incorrect.....I have. Was just in the hockey locker room and meeting rooms recently too.

I'll add that to the list of excuses as to why the FB team can't possibly succeed................................

Agree with you both sports need to be funded better but what's wrong with the Betty? Or the Alerus?

I see what you are trying to do here but.............

Correct and this school's main revenue sport is hockey. Always has been and most likely always will be so let's figure out how hockey can help the other main sports, BB and FB, succeed since up to this point they can't seem to optimize their revenue capabilities. Hopefully McGarry and Kennedy can resolve this issues in a couple of weeks. BTW I have had FB season tickets for same number of years I've had season hockey tickets.

To your first point.......then those from the "anti-hockey" crowd should just come right out and say that directly. To your second point I completely agree.

So we a tying the complete success to our MBB and FB programs to assistant coaches? That excuse is so overused and tiresome. 99% of assistant coaches in any sport at any college level are looking for a better gig. I do completely agree that there needs to be more dollars in the coaching salary pool for FB and BB though.

But UND is it known as a "hockey school"......whether that is right or wrong yet you have no problem with the redistribution of that program's revenue. The current REA agreement needs to be renegotiated to better terms for the other sports but here shouldn't be continued excuses for the MBB and FB programs to underachieve revenue wise. When the Alerus is 70% full attendance wise and MBB is even less I don't see how that is all on the hockey program. BTW I have yet to see any one claim that FB and BB need to "entirely carry their own weight" but I could have missed a post or two.

Can I buy you a plane ticket to Vegas to arbitrate their meeting?

Plausible but not likely. GF is a hockey town........or so I've been told.

It's not beneficial towards FB.....not here to argue that. The current agreement should be renegotiated but even under the current agreement, that been in place for awhile, it's not like FB has come close to maxing out it's revenue generating capabilities. Correct on your MBB take but BJ has not done much to build a program for exposure sake minus the one NCCA game and not sure what bump that gave the university as a whole. To the extent that it is now? Most likely not but it still would be the highest revenue generating sport at UND today even with a revamped old Ralph.

Very valid points but at what point are those 2 sports somewhat responsible for generating revenue?

Impossible.......not at all. How about figuring out how to continually put a product on the field and court that makes fans want to buy a ticket and attend...i.e. MBB and FB. Hockey does it....although this past season was rough. That would be a good start and we could go from there. I do agree there needs to be some renegotiations as to dollars and their redistribution but at some point the FB and MBB programs do need to take the lead in carving out their own way financially.

Revenue in MBB and FB needs to increase.....period. However anyone wants to make that happen I'm all for it.

Does the Ralph only host UND men's hockey games? Again if you throw a dart at least hit the wall. Goodness...................................

How did you conjecture all that from his one post? The post of his you are referencing is factual in all 3 points he makes. There was nothing mentioned of inequality, logo, or revenue distribution. If you are going to present an argument at least keep in on the rails as to what was presented.

What time do you guys, along with Noise, typically meet at the Cenex in Hillsboro each morning to put your group think thoughts together???

Not disagreeing but that argument is apples to oranges.

I think his point is how the "gift" has benefited the community as a whole since it opened. Think of the dollars spent on hotels, restaurants, shopping, ect....within the community any time the Ralph hosts an event. To look at this "gift" as a one time entity is ignorant and very myopic.