SloStang
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Cal Poly beats UC Davis 51-28 to take the GWFC title.
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Cal Poly beat Idaho State 49-10 in a game played in the rain. Cal Poly only threw the ball 13 times and rushed for 459 yards (averaged over 10 yards per carry). Cal Poly had 557 total yards compared to 278 for Idaho State.
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Cal Poly's next home game against Southern Utah (in three weeks) is already sold out.
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If Cal Poly keeps winning I would expect sell outs for their last four home games. There were no students in school when Cal Poly played Montana.
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Nice win by the Sioux. Even more impressive that you had a short week and ISU had a bye last week. Good luck in Louisiana.
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Cal Poly will not schedule a DII game. It does them no good win or lose. I can see Cal Poly going to the NCAA and showing them that they have tried to schedule a counter (DI) game to fill in the hole left by hurricane IKE and they can find no takers. They can show that UND is a top 40 FCS team and ask for an exemption from their non-counter status. The NCAA is usually not very flexable, but who knows. I would like to see a game with UND.
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Here is my feeling of the Great West Conference as an All-Sport conference. I think that it is good in that it adds stability to are two new football members, UND and USD, during their transition which I hope adds stability the the football part of the conference. What I wish is that they would have given it a different name. The Great American Conference sounds more fitting. The Great West Football Conference has built a great name for itself in the FCS community. I do not see being associated with New Jersey Institute of Technology and the University of Texas Pan Am as a benifit to the football conference. What would it hurt UND if they were in the GWFC for football and the Great American Conference for the rest of their programs?
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I am really glad that UND joined the GWFC, now the GWC. I am disappointed that the GWC voided the game with Cal Poly. I am looking forward to playing the Sioux in 2009. Good luck this season.
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2009
USD
@SUU
UC Davis
? Cal Poly
Idaho State
2010
@USD
SUU
@UC Davis
? Cal Poly
2011
USD
@SUU
UC Davis
? Cal Poly
These are just some games I have heard of or seen posted. Nothing for sure as of yet. I am just guessing on the GWFC games. Has anyone heard for sure how they are going to play out in 2009 when everyone starts playing everyone? Anyone else heard of any others?
I believe that UND will play at Cal Poly in 2009 and 2011. Cal Poly will travel to UND in 2010.
This is how I think that the GWFC schedule will be in 2009:
Cal Poly
Home: North Dakota and South Dakota
Away: UC Davis and Southern Utah
North Dakota
Home: South Dakota and UC Davis
Away: Cal Poly and Southern Utah
South Dakota
Home: Southern Utah and UC Davis
Away: North Dakota and Cal Poly
UC Davis
Home: Cal Poly and Southern Utah
Away: North Dakota and South Dakota
Southern Utah
Home: Cal Poly and North Dakota
Away: South Dakota and UC Davis
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Also interesting that he has no DI recruiting ties.
How would you know that? He coached at Northeastern and Texas State (and played at Texas State), both of which are DI. Sounds to me that he has Texas recruiting ties, which is big. Just ask your friends over on the Bison message boards.
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At this point in time USD doesn't deserve to get any love in the polls. That is not to intentionally throw USD under the bus but their very recent and consistant history shows that USD will have a very rough season. They have rarely/never had success on the road against competitive teams, such as the ones they will play. Since all but one of their D1 games will be on the road it's very fair to assume that USD could easily go O-For the road in 2008.
The biggest difference between USD and UND is their road play. UND plays solid road football and USD plays poor bordering on embarrassing on the road. It is what it is and until USD get a better home schedule they will probably not be much of a contender. If the Coyotes do not stress discipline in the off season and don't improve the defense the road will be tough again.
If it helps, South Dakota State came out of their transition a stronger FCS teams than they were as a DII team. Hopefully the same will happen for USD.
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How? You have to play someone first and win.
Someone like a ranked Northern Iowa team on the road?
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This is a poll put together by fans who post often enough of the anygivensaturday.com website. Most haven't probably heard too much about us since we're new to Division I. I'd say give us one or two seasons and we should start appearing regularly in these things.
I agree. After this year, I think they will know who you are.
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Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25
PRE-SEASON 5/26/2008
(First place votes in parenthesis)
1. Appalachian St. (76)
2. James Madison (2)
3. Richmond (1)
4. North Dakota St. (2)
5. Northern Iowa
6. Massachusetts
7. Montana
8. McNeese St.
9. Eastern Washington
10. Wofford
11. Delaware
12. Southern Illinois
13. Cal Poly (1)
14. Youngstown St.
15. Elon
16. Georgia Southern
17. Villanova
18. South Dakota St.
19. Eastern Illinois
20. New Hampshire
21. The Citadel
22. Eastern Kentucky
23. Fordham
24. Yale
25. Furman
Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Harvard (33), Sam Houston St. (31), Delaware St. (29), Northern Arizona (27), Central Arkansas (24), Montana St. (24), Jackson St. (23), South Carolina St. (22), Jacksonville St. (18), Grambling St. (16), Liberty (16), Holy Cross (14), Western Illinois (13), Albany (12), Hofstra (12), Dayton (10), Hampton (10), Nicholls St. (7), Coastal Carolina (5), Colgate (5), Norfolk St. (5)
TEAM MOST ON THE RISE: Cal Poly
TEAM FALLING THE MOST: Delaware
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USD released their 2008 and 2009 schedules. While their 2008 schedule is nothing to write home about, their 2009 schedule is looking good.
USD's 2009 schedule:
Home: McNeese State, Southeastern Louisiana, Southern Utah, UC Davis, West Texas A&M and William Penn
Away: Cal Poly, North Dakota, Northern Colorado and Northern Iowa.
Link: http://www.usdcoyotes.com/sports/football/...release_id=4432
I'll bet UND's 2009 schedule will look good too. Big difference scheduling as a counter to FCS teams.
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Despite its FBS status, the University of Idaho is quite similar to UND. It has an enrollment of approximately 11,000, and is situated in a city of about 23,000. They play in a domed football facility that seats about 16,000.
Idaho went 1-11 in 2007, with their lone win coming against Cal Poly 20-13.
Cal Poly was breaking in their new triple option offense and new QB and had 7 fumbles (5 lost). Two fumbles were in the red zone (one at the 6 yard line) and another was inside Cal Poly's 15 yard line setting up one of Idaho's touchdowns, and a third was on a short field goal attempt by Cal Poly. I think that UND will be able to do what Cal Poly fumbled away, and that is beat Idaho. Congrats on signing your first FBS games.
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I would also like to see a shift toward night games. I know Lennon was against them. The UW-La Crosse site had the game at 5:00, but UND's site has 1:00. I think night games, or very late afternoon games would help attendance, as alot of people have to work or want to spend their Saturday afternoon in the yard before the snow flies. Some fans, like me, travel a fair distance to get to the games. The 1:00 start pretty much blows the entire day for me.
Not to mention families with the kids that are involved in youth sports that play their games on Saturday afternoons.
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It is official.
UND official press release: http://www.fightingsioux.com/ViewArticle.d...;ATCLID=1403425
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Anyone wanna make any chances to this prediction/prospective lineup now that we've gone through headcoach and position coach changes as well as a recruiting class?
In my mind I think Rosario could start as well as Benjamin, and maybe Fonseca could get time or start as freshman.
Thoughts?
As a fan I always like to see them redshirt incoming freshmen. By playing as a true freshman, they are trading what is usually their least productive year for what should be their most productive year (5th year).
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You may get the better home game, but you can forget about the FBS game for the first three years. FBS schools are looking for 6 wins against bowl counters. UND is not a bowl counter until at least the third season of the transition.
While you are right about not being a bowl counter until the third year (need to have averaged 57 scholarships over the last 2 seasons), that does not mean they will not get a FBS game until then. UC Davis played and beat Stanford when they were in transition and were not a bowl counter. It will be harder, but not impossible.
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The Bison home schedule in 2003 (first transitional year) had six games--four against DI playoff eligilbe teams (Northwestern State, Cal Poly, Southern Utah, Valpo). The other two were a NAIA and a DII team that came off a playoff season the year before in Carson Newman. NDSU defeated Northwestern State and NSU made the DI playoffs that year. Cal Poly beat NDSU by a field goal in the Fargodome and finished 8-3 yet were not selected to the postseason--due to playing two transistional DI teams. NDSU also had Southern Utah at home (a Bison win) in that first year so NDSU actually had three scholarship fully playoff eligible teams on their home schedule.
Valparaiso, although a non-scholarship team, won the Pioneer League title the year before (2003). Remember, the Pioneer League last year had some wins over scholarship teams so they are not like DIII teams in my opinion. Drake beat Illinois State. San Diego beat Northern Colorado. Dayton beat playoff team, Fordham.
We will see how UND's home scheduled teams do but I highly doubt any will make the DI playoffs or be on the verge like two teams that NDSU played.
Bison Kent, you are putting a green and gold rosey spin on it. Of the four DI playoff eligible teams on the Bison home schedule the first year, the only one they deserve credit for scheduling is Northwestern State. Cal Poly and Southern Utah were conference games and Valpo was a very bad team that would be soundly beat by most of the teams on UND's home schedule. Saying that Valpo was DI playoff eligible is like saying you could be president. Technically correct, but it will never happen.
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I believe Cal-Poly is full up at 12 games. SloStang will confirm? Does Wyoming have a slot open?
Cal Poly has 11 games under contract and is negotiating for a 12th.
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I think it's good that people out there will spin this schedule into a positive. But this is a flat-out BAD home schedule, even under the circumstances. I didn't think two DI home games was too much to expect.
The away schedule is decent, but I wish they could have gotten a return game out of Southeastern Louisiana.
I'll still go to as many games as I can, but there's not even one home game I can get excited about. And I don't care how good this DIII team is, it's still a DIII team. There's no spinning around that. Nothing good can come from that game. I'd much rather have a DI non-scholarship team over a DIII team.
For what UND was facing, I think that they did well. UND is in a tough spot this year. They do not count as a DI game for FCS teams and good DII teams do not want to play them because UND was a top DII team before they got the additional scholarships.
I think that the fans need to look at this as if they would have been happy with this schedule as a DII team. I think most people would say yes. Next year is the first year that UND will count as a DI team on FCS teams schedules. I think next year you will see a vast improvement in the schedule.
BTW, Southern Utah is not your typical 0-11 team. SUU faced probably the toughest schedule in the FCS last year. They played 8 or 9 ranked FCS teams and a UND last year. They almost pulled out a couple wins against some of the ranked teams, Youngstown State being one of them. They were a young team and they have a new head coach this year. I expect that they will be very much improved after facing such tough competition last year.
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I am also glad to see a 2 home and 2 away for each team, but do not understang why UND is going back to Davis and USD is goin back to SLO next season. It seems the logical choice would have been UND @ CP, UCD @ UND, CP @ USD and USD @ UCD.