I didn't mean the coaches taught the players to use the stick. They learned from playing against each other. I also am not saying that these were penalty hooking/slashing at least at the time, but now if it is going to be more aggressively called it could be. I think in the east it was taught to use their feet and skate, but along with it came a little clutch and grab. In the west I think a more physical game was taught (more checking) but with that came use of elbows/crosschecks. This is what I meant, sorry for the confusion. As for everybody saying that east teams are better. They have been, and probably will be for quite some time. For the most part they have many more players to choose from that tryout for the team, which means that have more kids pushing each other for the spots. Another thing I know for Grand Forks at least, they have more chances to get on the ice. I think there is 17 outdoor rinks or something like that in the area, and when there is ice there are kids out there. Another thing is that they play MN teams which is a little higher quality opponents which forces a team to get better or keep losing. West teams do not have that option. I do think the gap has narrowed a little in the last few years, but the west still has a long way to go. Just my $.02